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#1 bubmakes3

Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

I have a question for the jewellers out there!
I was given a lovely ring for Christmas by my SIL. It is a gold plated brass ring with resin inserts.

I have worn it a handful of times since then and it has started to tarnish on the inside (and make my finger green) and the outside has started to look kind of mottled (lighter bits and darker bits). The patterning on the outside is more noticeable when you hold it under a light but it is still there.
My question is - is this to be expected from a gold plated ring? I know it will wear and tarnish over time but kind of thought the gold plating should last a bit longer than 5 or so wears? Or is it just my skin causing a reaction or reacting to the ring in some way?

Should I take it back and say something? I can get the receipt if need be (or at least her credit card statement I am sure) – or is this normal wear and tear.
I know its not an expensive piece in the grand scheme of things but thought it would look new and shiny for longer!

TIA!

ETA - I posted this in Fashion/Beauty too but thought I would post here for traffic.
ETA - I have removed the brand and price as that is not the question or the problem!

Edited by bubmakes3, 11 January 2013 - 04:14 PM.


#2 **Xena**

Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:49 PM

I'd say it was a thin layer of gold plating over copper (or a metal with coper in it) which is what causes the green.

Gold plating wears away but it depends how thick the layer is to how long it takes. Your obviously was quite thin.

#3 tle

Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:49 PM

I'm not sure about the legalities of it (or even what is normal with gold plating) but I know that with sterling silver I have a chemical/acid in my skin which turns it black after one or two wears. I tried to return  a bracelet once because of it but was denied because it was my skin not a fault with the item. I was sceptical but after cleaning it up I gave it to my DD who wears it frequently and has never had a problem.

BTW, that it just one example, I"ve tried other pieces of ss jewllery since then and I do it to all of them.

#4 Oriental lily

Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:51 PM

200 for a gold plated ring.

Wow.

Yes I would be returning it.

Surely if plated it should have been sterling silver.

Countrymel should give you the info you need but it sounds all sorts of wrong for that price.

#5 **Xena**

Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (Oriental lily @ 11/01/2013, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
200 for a gold plated ring.

Wow.

Yes I would be returning it.

Surely if plated it should have been sterling silver.

Countrymel should give you the info you need but it sounds all sorts of wrong for that price.


I'm not surprised. It's be that much for being 'brand name' unfortunately you tend to pay more for the name than the jewellery I have found.

#6 bubmakes3

Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

Trust me - I would not pay that for a 'costume' ring - but it was a gift and I do love it!
This is what the blurb on their website says
" Book Club Ring - Adjustable ring with sharp edged resin studs. Inspired by a vintage ring. Composition: main: 100% gold plated brass, contrast: 100% resin"

Edited by bubmakes3, 11 January 2013 - 04:14 PM.


#7 Oriental lily

Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:57 PM

Your right xena.

I have a nickel allergy so I get antsy when jewellery performs like that.
So it's quality before design for me.

#8 **Xena**

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:02 PM

QUOTE (Oriental lily @ 11/01/2013, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your right xena.

I have a nickel allergy so I get antsy when jewellery performs like that.
So it's quality before design for me.


Same original.gif Though I wear cheap earrings sometimes, just have to make sure I only wear them for a couple of hours and no more.

ETA: Brass contains copper which is why you get the green.

Edited by **Xena**, 11 January 2013 - 04:03 PM.


#9 Oriental lily

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:09 PM

Does copper contain nickel?

I had these gorgeous red drop earring I wore Christmas day. They were good for exactly 4 hours before I was ripping them out.

Frustrating.

Then I found out my gorgeous victorian antique sterling silver  bracelet I gt for Christmas had nickel filled safety chain.

Very annoyed.

So yeah just a little vent.

#10 Lady Garden

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:12 PM

Brass (and nickel) are horrible metals for jewellery. Sorry OP, I'd say that $190 of the $200 paid for the brand.

#11 bubmakes3

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:12 PM

Hmmm well i do react badly to cheap earrings - so maybe it is just me?


#12 bubmakes3

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE (FluffyOscar @ 11/01/2013, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry OP, I'd say that $190 of the $200 paid for the brand.


Again - I don't care about the money or the brand just whether there is a problem with the ring or its just me!

#13 Lady Garden

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:16 PM

My point was that the ring was probably plated with the thinnest layer of gold. The reaction you describe is what happens on brass with my skin. So I'm guessing your skin plus brass = reaction that can go through thin gold plating. Should you return it? Up to you. Would I return it? No.

#14 countrymel

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:17 PM

I'm here, I'm here *puff, puff, puff* my blingtastrophe alarm told me that people need me!




Ok..

Plating will wear off eventually this is a given... HOWEVER there are different levels of plating - 'flash plating' and 'hard plating'.

Flash plating gives a '0.000000something' of a micron plating of gold (it is generally gold) onto the surface, it has no integrity but will make things 'look gold' - you see this on all kinds of things like novelty items, cheap trophies or Chinese funeral offerings.

A jeweller will use 'hard plating' this should put a much thicker layer of metal (although it is still very thin) onto a base metal - in jewellery this base will generally be sterling silver under gold, for  things like vases or flatwear it will generally be gilding metal (a special type of brass)

For something that is going to be in contact with your skin like a ring plating is never ever recommended.. the friction between your skin and the ring will wear it off very quickly...

NOT however in 5 wears.

5 wears indicates to me that the object was flash plated.  Naughty, naughty Sass & Bide!

The green is the ph. of your skin reacting with the base metal, the speckles on the top are the base metal coming through the plate.

I think you are well within your rights to take it back, alas I fear the same thing will occur with a replacement.

If you love it very much and want to keep it and keep wearing it  (the replacement) I have two suggestions:

A. take the ring (unworn) to a jeweller and ask them if they can plate more gold onto it - it will still be a special occasions only ring as I said before, plating is not ever recommended for rings

B. take the ring (unworn) and put either a layer of clear lacquer or a layer of polish over it - this will put something between your skin and the thin layer of plating and protect it from you skins acids and buy you some more time with you beloved.

Don't however let them fob you off when you are returning to the store - if they want to charge 'real jewellery prices' for their fashion jewellery then they need to accept that customers expect 'real jewellery' performance from it.

#15 CrazySingleMum

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:18 PM

Well the ring is showing up as "no longer available" online, so maybe there is a problem with it and it's been withdrawn??

I wouldn't be at all happy about it.


#16 **Xena**

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (Oriental lily @ 11/01/2013, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does copper contain nickel?

I had these gorgeous red drop earring I wore Christmas day. They were good for exactly 4 hours before I was ripping them out.

Frustrating.

Then I found out my gorgeous victorian antique sterling silver  bracelet I gt for Christmas had nickel filled safety chain.

Very annoyed.

So yeah just a little vent.


Not usually but often nickel is added to other softer base metals to strengthen them.


#17 livvie7586

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (bubmakes3 @ 11/01/2013, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Again - I don't care about the money or the brand just whether there is a problem with the ring or its just me!


i wouldn't say it was a problem as such with either, it's just a cheap (or not so cheap) and nasty piece.  if the plating is rubbing off, then it means the plating was extremely thin to begin with, which isn't your fault, if it isn't rubbing off but your skin is reacting to the filler metal, then it isn't the rings fault (although it means the plating is thin).

I'd be taking it in and having a chat to the store myself, as they may have picked up issues with others (there may have been an issue with the manufacturing process with that particular item).

#18 IsolaBella

Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:23 PM

I can't wear plated metals. They all rub off within 1 wear (end up with lovely gold glitter on me though). So no costume jewellery for me.






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