Jump to content

Help - potential DOCS situation


  • Please log in to reply
16 replies to this topic

#1 opethmum

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:10 PM

Ok this happened this afternoon.

I was minding my own business and got on my bus route and some lady was jabbering quite loudly on her phone about trying to get her kids back from foster care and she was saying that her children were not happy at all. I was quite sad for her having to plead on the phone to whoever was on the phone to have her case looked at by the courts, she then proceeded to hang up. She then proceeded to make another phone call.

It went a little like this, she told the other person on the line that she wanted to kill with knives and do harm upon them on her next visit to the foster carers and those involved in taking her children away, she wanted their eyes to be bathed in the blood of the innocent, she wanted those responsible to make their souls clean and wanted to kill the police workers and damn their souls in everlasting hellfire. She wanted to cause everlasting harm to the judges and the courts and kill them in their sleep.
She was really freaking me out and I could not believe what I was hearing.

Should I take my concerns to the police or should I just stay out of it?

#2 protart roflcoptor

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:14 PM

Perhaps the mental health issues that made her say those things are well known to the team involved in her case and could even form part of the reasons she does not currently have care of her children?



#3 mitty82

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:18 PM

It went a little like this, she told the other person on the line that she wanted to kill with knives and do harm upon them on her next visit to the foster carers and those involved in taking her children away, she wanted their eyes to be bathed in the blood of the innocent, she wanted those responsible to make their souls clean and wanted to kill the police workers and damn their souls in everlasting hellfire. She wanted to cause everlasting harm to the judges and the courts and kill them in their sleep.
She was really freaking me out and I could not believe what I was hearing.


that is probably why she hasnt got her children, do you even know her name??

This is a surefire way to go about threatening people with this sort of stuff that isnt going to help her case. I feel sorry for any of the workers who have to deal with this person and her children.

#4 Caitlin Happymeal

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

I don't know tbh - I mean, how easily identifiable would she have been? It sounds like a very very sad situation, but I don't know if you'd be able to give them much to go on really...

#5 pol

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

I would. The worst that could happen is they'll laugh at you. The best is worth it.

If it made you uncomfortable listening, then there was a reason for it.

#6 opethmum

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:21 PM

I don't have her name unfortunately and I am worried about the foster carers, who knows if she will carry through her threat.


#7 Feral_Pooks

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:22 PM

She sounds very unwell and I'm sure the people involved are aware of it. If it would put your mind at ease, make a report to crime stoppers.

#8 Zephie Chugger

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:28 PM

As a foster parent Ive heard this many times, Bio parents vent in many ways. Could be a mental health issues or not Im sure the Dept have already heard her wishers and are dealing with it.

#9 MARsmum

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:28 PM

As a previous DoCS worker I would say that these are pretty stock standard things that are said.  It is a sad situation, however, many parents can not take responsibility for their behaviour and therefore blame all the other people involved for their situation and then threaten to do harm.  I think there is little that you can do in this case seeing as though you don't have her name and I am sure that DoCS are probably aware of her situation.

#10 wanting_more

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:28 PM

You know what, I would call DOCS in your area and tell them. Give them as MUCH detail as possible even a description of the lady. (If you know which bus st she got on, or off)
They MAY be able to work out who she is, if its a repeat of past behavior based on description, locations etc. and you know what, even if they can't you can rest easier at night knowing you did something.
I've made a report about someone I didn't know based on what a family member said ( as the family member wasn't going to do anything) I told them what I knew (which wasnt much) and they were very greatful. I thought they would think I was stupid reporting hearsay but I was very worried about what was said. I didn't even know the mother last name or address.
I say do it, it REALLY can't hurt, but it certainly CAN help.

#11 librablonde

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE (opethmum @ 10/01/2013, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have her name unfortunately and I am worried about the foster carers, who knows if she will carry through her threat.

OP, it sounds like she's very mentally unwell and if I were you I'd call the DOC's number in your State and give a description of her when reporting it. The woman may not have been a foster carer through DOC's (perhaps a private agency) but at least you've tried. I'd call the police too.

As a foster carer, I have been on the receiving end of bio-parents with serious mental health issues and threats of abduction or violence. I had to have sensor lights installed at my old house as a precaution and my kid's case manager would call me when the dad was having an "episode". I totally agree that the child protection system is broken in many ways and is a damaging process for all side: the carers, the bio-parents and the poor kids. At the same time, I also know that carers can feel like "sitting ducks" when they have kids in their care and the bio-parent is making threats.... the police and DOC's won't do much until after the fact.... sad.gif


#12 Tigerdog

Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:47 PM

Meh - stay out of it.  Go and google 'DoCS NSW name and shame', you'll get a taste there for the type of nutbag you'd be dealing with (kids obviously taken off her for good reason!).  

Anyway, to do harm to the foster carers she'd have to find out who they are first.

Edited by Tigerdog, 10 January 2013 - 05:47 PM.


#13 librablonde

Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:28 PM

QUOTE (Tigerdog @ 10/01/2013, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, to do harm to the foster carers she'd have to find out who they are first.

In my case, DOC's told me that the bio-parents had the right to know where their children were placed so our location was not confidential. I was furious when I found out  that my address (not my name) had been given to the dad but when I escalated it to my case worker's manager, I was told in no uncertain terms that I had no right to confidentiality and that almost all bio-parents are advised of the address that their kids are placed at. I was fuming. And also scared when the dad started making terrible threats against the kids and me.


#14 opethmum

Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:19 PM

Thanks ladies, I will call DOCS and report her. Thanks for giving me additional things I was not aware of! Take care for now



#15 olikat03

Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

Maybe she knew you were evesdropping and said all that stuff to scare the crap out of you. I think mind your own business would be a good thing. I'm sure if the kids are in foster care they are already been looked after and DOCS are involved.

#16 opethmum

Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:22 PM

Trust me I was not eavesdropping, I had my 6 mo son with me and I needed to keep him occupied,

#17 Propaganda

Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:23 PM

She may be someone who likes to say things like that when she's angry. It doesn't necessarily mean anything.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Special Ticket Offer, Save $8!

The Essential Baby & Toddler Show is back this April! Save $8 off the door price for a limited time only!

Why I breastfed my son until he was three

The fact that I not only breastfed my son, but breastfed him for three and a half years, seems pretty incredible in retrospect.

Do babies and young children see ghosts?

Do babies and young children see ghosts? If you’ve pondered the question, you’re not alone.

15 years with Essential Baby: meet Therese

"Life has a funny way of giving you what you need when you need it the most."

Mum causes a stir by taking a stand against leggings

A mum has found herself the subject of debate after claiming tight bottoms cause lustful thoughts in men.

Don't set a parenting goal for 2015 - do this instead

The problem with goal setting as a parent is the measure. How do we really know if we’re succeeding?

5 pregnancy myths that just won't go away

When you're expecting, it often seems like everyone is keen to offer advice about what you should and shouldn't do in the interests of your health and wellbeing.

RPA hospital contacting mums after discovering vaccine storage fault

Sydney's Royal Prince Alfred Hospital (RPA) is trying to contact women who had babies at the facility after discovering a fault in a refrigerator containing vaccines.

'Nutella' not a baby name, French court says

A French court has blocked parents from naming their baby girl after the hazelnut spread Nutella, arguing it would make her the target of mockery.

Why I'm never calling myself 'just a mum' again

I’ve grown three human beings. I feed them, dress them, teach them, care for them and love them 24 hours a day. Yet for eight years, when I meet new people and they’ve asked me what I do, I tell them: “I’m just a mum”.

Rosie Batty named 2015 Australian of the Year

One year ago, Rosie Batty could not have imagined she'd be where she is. Tonight the grieving mum who put domestic violence on the national agenda was named Australian of the Year.

Five reasons to hug more

Hugging – some of us thrive on it, even depend on it – and then there are those who don't care for it really. So, are they missing out?

Help - my three-year-old has started throwing tantrums

My daughter never went through the "terrible twos" but began throwing wild tantrums shortly after her third birthday.

That's commitment

First peek at Sonia Kruger's daughter Maggie

"She smells so good, I could eat her," Kruger tells co-host David Campbell.

Mum assists in own caesarean surgery

A mum who partly delivered her own twins during a caesarean has encouraged other women to take control of their birthing experience.

How to handle common childhood regressions

Regression can be a natural and common part of development prompted by a variety of factors, but that doesn't make it less frustrating.

Disgruntled dad's pram ad goes viral

When buying a second hand pram, there are lots of things to take into consideration. 

Man discovers he's a dad after finding 55-year-old letter

Discovering you are about to father a baby is startling enough - never mind finding out you have a 61-year-old son.

15 thoughts mums have during a tantrum

Ranging from mild to feral and triggered by events both minor and major, tantrums certainly keep life interesting.

Natural pain relief in the early stages of labour

While managing labour pains on your own can be daunting, there are a number of natural pain relief options to help you cope until you are admitted to hospital.

Win an Octonauts prize pack

To celebrate the launch of Octonauts Live! Operation Reef Shield, a spectacular underwater adventure live on stage, we are giving away an amazing Octonauts prize pack to one lucky fan.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Forgotten Baby Syndrome claims the life of toddler

One baby dies every eight days in the back of a car in the US, victims of 'forgotten baby syndrome'.

For a brief time, I was touched by an angel

For a brief time, I was touched by an angel. You stole my heart, and changed me into the women I am today.

Chinese woman gives birth to quintuplets

After six years of trying for a baby, a couple’s dreams have come true many times over after the mum gave birth to quintuplets this week.

Chrissie Swan has reached her "sex quota"

Chrissie Swan says she and her partner have sex once a year due to her fear of falling pregnant.

Stars help save choking babies

It's an important lesson to learn, but one that busy new mums and dads might overlook until it's too late.

New Girl star Zooey Deschanel pregnant

Actress Zooey Deschanel is expecting her first child with her producer boyfriend Jacob Pechenik.

16 times 'dad reflexes' saved the day

Of course, in some cases they may be the ones who actually got their child into a precarious position in the first place, but we'll ignore that for now.

Couple's 'non-traditional' pregnancy announcement goes viral

Knowing you are not the father of your pregnant wife's baby would usually indicate a rocky relationship ahead for traditional parents.

The trials and tribulations of identical triplet newborns

Pip Donnelly is still playing spot the difference with her newborn identical triplets, Isabelle, Georgina and Frankie.

Win an Octonauts prize pack

To celebrate the launch of Octonauts Live! Operation Reef Shield, a spectacular underwater adventure live on stage, we are giving away an amazing Octonauts prize pack to one lucky fan.

Earthquake baby thriving five years on

Jenny Alexis is lucky to be alive after spending four days buried in the rubble of the 2010 Haitian earthquake, but now she's a thriving five year old.

Please don't say I'm lucky because I was adopted

On the one hand I was having a regular life with friends and sports and sleepovers and school. But I was also always wondering: Did my mother love me? What was wrong with me?

An open letter to non-parents who offer advice on child-rearing

Kitty, when you’re the parent of my child you’re welcome to wade in with an opinion – but until then, I’d prefer you to have a supportive ear and a glass of wine ready.

Couple arrested over baby gun video

A US couple faces charges after investigators say they found mobile phone videos showing the woman's 12-month-old daughter putting a handgun in her mouth.

NSW Health dumps 10-year limit on frozen embryos

A 10-year time limit on storing frozen embryos that were created with donor sperm has been dropped by the NSW government.

How my happy-go-lucky husband became a monster

Sharan Nicholson-Rogers watched her husband change from a happy-go-lucky police officer into an unpredictable man prone to violent and emotional outbursts.

Dads-to-be experience hormonal changes, too

Dads-to-be experience hormonal changes in line with their pregnant partners, a new study shows.

'They were just doing their job': mum of toddler killed in police chase gone wrong

"They were just doing their job. I feel so sorry for them. It is all just too sad."

Miscarriages to be formally recognised by NSW government

Women who miscarry will be able to obtain an optional "recognition of loss" certificate as a formal recognition of their often heartbreaking loss.

Cafe cubby house 'too noisy' for neighbours

Teenage parties, domestic disputes, or raucous late night pubs are the things that usually come to mind when you think neighbourhood noise complaints.

Dad films baby playing with snake

Most parents would not consider a snake an appropriate playmate for their baby, but a US dad who filmed his daughter playing with a python has defended himself against criticism.

Clever breastfeeding products

Check out this range of products designed to help make your breastfeeding journey more enjoyable, manageable and convenient.

 

Back to School Offer

Findababysitter.com.au

We've got you covered for this school year. Use www.findababysitter.com.au to meet local nannies now.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.