Jump to content

WDYT? Our dog bit someone.


  • Please log in to reply
140 replies to this topic

#1 FeralLIfeHacker

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

sad.gif








Thanks for any advice.



eeek sorry so long.

Edited by lifehacker, 09 February 2013 - 10:17 PM.


#2 MoonPie

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:15 PM

If someone got into my personal space and ignored/challenged a warning bark from my dog, I'd hope he'd bite them too!

Hope everything sorts itself out sad.gif


#3 Holidayromp

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:18 PM

It could be a cultural thing though - the dog took it as being antagonised the person who got bitten probably didn't.  That is the thing your dog still bit the person and maybe you could get them to sign a waiver if you are worried but not paying costs can also get you in a whole lot of trouble - your dog bit a human you pay.

#4 JRA

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE
Last night dh was walking with the kids and dog on a local oval - it's huge and has 2 ovals and a man was walking and he walked really close to dd who was holding the leash (she's 17) and our dog barked at the man. The man barked back at the dog, as in he made woof, woof noises, the dog pulled at the lead and bit around the mans ankles
.

QUOTE (Rebothy @ 09/01/2013, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If someone got into my personal space and ignored/challenged a warning bark from my dog, I'd hope he'd bite them too!

Hope everything sorts itself out sad.gif


If a person cannot walk near a dog without being bitten, that is not the person's fault. Don't blame the victim.

#5 FeralLIfeHacker

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE (Rebothy @ 09/01/2013, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If someone got into my personal space and ignored/challenged a warning bark from my dog, I'd hope he'd bite them too!

Hope everything sorts itself out sad.gif


Thanks.

Yeah dd had a bit of a rant about how it was a strange reaction to woof at the dog and "what did he expect" and "why didn't he walk around us" etc, etc, she's upset as it's primarily her dog, he sleeps on her bed and is closest to her, she's had a terrible year with depression and the dog has been her lifeline literally sad.gif

I'm trying to do the right thing though as he shouldn't bite people at the end of the day.

#6 Cath42

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:23 PM

I don't have much experience of dog ownership, so I'm probably not going to say anything terribly useful. If this is the second incident whereby your dog has bitten someone (or tried to) without being threatened or trying to guard your property, you've probably got a problem on your hands. I don't think you need to have him put down, but a muzzle is probably a good idea for walks or for anytime he's not at home. I also wouldn't leave him alone with your 14-month-old, ever - not even a quick trip to the loo.

As far as the $70 is concerned, I do think you should pay it. I'd say the man's family knew he'd need a tetanus shot and that's why they took him to a doctor. They don't sound like the kind of people who'd deny a cash payment. They gave your husband their mobile number in good faith and they haven't been any trouble since the incident occurred.

#7 Z-girls rock

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:24 PM

firstly I am no expert. not in the legality of paying the money or in dog training.

but if I were you I would.

pay the $70. I mean it is not a big amount of money and it was your dogs fault. I think if they intended to sue they would be making more of a fuss...

also look at a head halter for the dog http://compare.ebay.com.au/like/2509674687...dPriceItemTypes when walking as she seems to be unpredicable and excitable. You need to have more control.

but maybe spiky or someone has a more expert oppinion.

Edited by Z-girls rock, 09 January 2013 - 12:27 PM.


#8 MintyBiscuit

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:25 PM

In regards to the dog, maybe have a chat with your vet? If he's jumpy there might be training or something that can be done to stop him from acting like that. I'd be concerned too because it doesn't sound like it took a lot of provocation for him to bite, but obviously without being there it's hard to say for sure.

Regarding the money, I think the right thing to do is to pay for it. I can sort of see where your dad is coming from in thinking that paying for the doctor's visit is admitting responsibility, but realistically you ARE responsible as the dog owner so I don't see how it could make it worse. I am not a lawyer though, so maybe someone will be able to give you a better answer.

#9 beaglebaby

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:30 PM

Your dog felt threatened, a much larger animal was barking at it - it's response was the terrier way of saying get out of my space.  

First of all, don't at this stage consider having your dog PTS.  Never leave it and your baby unsupervised, never let it off the leash in a public place, don't let it go up to strangers and consider getting a good behaviouralist to come and work with you on the best way to deal with what the dog perceives as threats.  It could also be worth getting one of the leads that asks people to stay away - but that wouldn't have helped in this case.

I don't know what you should do about this man.  I would not have gone home with him or given him my phone number.  He may have thought he was being funny, but he provoked your dog, yes, your dog did bite him, and you feel bad about it but surely he also has to take some responsibility for his action.  I have no idea of the legal responsibilities here, or what might happen if he reports it to the ranger, I would hope common sense prevails.

#10 IamAuntyA

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:30 PM

You'r dog was simply protecting his pack ( you'r family). The man got to close for comfort so your dog took action, there would have been something about the man that intimidated the dog for him to bite. I don't think you need to put him to sleep over it at all, if he shows aggressive behaviour towards people then maybe but what he was did was not in an aggressive manor, remember they can't talk he barked at the man and that would have been his way of saying get back and the man didn't so he took the next step to protect his family.
With the payment yes 100% pay so you get a receipt for it, if they have already paid the dr then deposit it into their account & keep all reciept & transaction numbers. Never pay them in cash.

#11 bikingbubs

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:30 PM

If my dogs bit ANYONE, there is NO way they would be going anywhere near my kids.

#12 asdf89

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE (Cath42 @ 09/01/2013, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have much experience of dog ownership, so I'm probably not going to say anything terribly useful. If this is the second incident whereby your dog has bitten someone (or tried to) without being threatened or trying to guard your property, you've probably got a problem on your hands. I don't think you need to have him put down, but a muzzle is probably a good idea for walks or for anytime he's not at home. I also wouldn't leave him alone with your 14-month-old, ever - not even a quick trip to the loo.

As far as the $70 is concerned, I do think you should pay it. I'd say the man's family knew he'd need a tetanus shot and that's why they took him to a doctor. They don't sound like the kind of people who'd deny a cash payment. They gave your husband their mobile number in good faith and they haven't been any trouble since the incident occurred.



Definitely start walking the dog with a muzzle. Also, how did your DD react when the dog started barking at the man? Did she pull him closer/say no etc?

I don't know what the legal ramifications would be, but think you should pay the money as he wouldn't have need to go to the doctor if not for your dog.

#13 HRH Countrymel

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:33 PM

Pay the bill.

Keep your dog away from people on a shorter leash for now.  And talk to your vet about further training.


It is NOT this man's fault he got bitten by your dog.

#14 cira

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:37 PM

All dogs in public need to be under control. A dog that is able to harass and bite someone would not be considered under control. If he reports this incident, you will be found at fault.

#15 dolcengabbana

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:38 PM

I second a PP suggestion of discussing your dogs behaviour with a vet or a trainer and take their advice.

I would pay the medical bill at the end of the day it was your dog that bit the man and I would document the situation your responses and pay the amount ask for a copy of the invoice.

Good luck I hope that perhaps some intervention training can help your dog.

#16 MoonPie

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (JRA @ 09/01/2013, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.



If a person cannot walk near a dog without being bitten, that is not the person's fault. Don't blame the victim.

I should rephrase. I'm not blaming the victim. I'm saying don't blame the dog, either. When looked at through the dog's eyes, someone got into the personal space of his pack, he issued a warning which was ignored and even challenged, so he protected his pack.



#17 FiveAus

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:40 PM

No idea about the legal ramifications but your dog bites, don't ever let it get in a position where it can bite anyone else. He should only be walked by an adult, he should be kept well away from passers by, which means vigilance on the part of the person holding the lead, and he needs to be muzzled.

At home, he should be separated from visiting children, with no exceptions.

To the PP who said they hoped their dog would bite in that situation, don't EVER wish your dog would bite anyone.

#18 JRA

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:40 PM

But it seems it is the second time he has bitten someone. The first time it was lucky he just tore the mans trousers.

#19 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:41 PM

I think you need to pay the bill and for any other medical expenses he incurs.

If it were me I'd be offering him $200 or something to go away and get him to sign an indemnity to leave it at that. Is be horrified if my animal injured another person in reasonably normal circumstances.

ETA: animal not anal but I'm glad autocorrect didn't change it to anus. Lol

Edited by Sunnycat, 09 January 2013 - 01:11 PM.


#20 JRA

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:41 PM

QUOTE (Sunnycat @ 09/01/2013, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you need to pay the bill and for any other medical expenses he incurs.

If it were me I'd be offering him $200 or something to go away and get him to sign an indemnity to leave it at that. Is be horrified if my anal injured another person in reasonably normal circumstances.


Don't you love auto correct!!!



#21 Kalota

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:42 PM

I would be quite happy paying the $70 for the man's tetanus shot, as I would probably feel quite bad sad.gif

I've owned bitey dogs before, but they have always been smaller dogs/terriers who didn't cause a lot of damage when they did bite, and I knew what triggered them to bite so I would avoid that to make sure no one got hurt. I would never consider putting a dog down over biting incidences such as the ones you are describing sad.gif

The last dog I owned was fine with my partner and I, but if approached/touched/interrogated or intimated by strangers, he would try to bite them. For this reason, whenever I took him out for a walk or play I would always leave him on the leash AND I would warn people if they came too close, e.g. "Hi there! This little one can be a bit snappy so please don't try to pat him!" And everything was fine.

I would not put the dog down, I would jus be more wary about controlling the leash around strangers, and warn people like I suggested when they get too close.

#22 Avidlearner1

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:42 PM

Where I live, the owner of the dog or the person in charge of the dog at the time of an attack is legally and financially liable for any costs involved as a result of the dog attack.

This is regardless of whether the person came close to the dog, whether the person was at the dogs property etc. Of course, if the dog is provoked, then it is considered a different matter but still investigated.

http://www.casey.vic.gov.au/pets/article.asp?Item=3502

I think you should pay, if you are wanting to prove payment has been made, type up a simple receipt and have them sign it.

With regards to the dog, there are a few things I would consider:

1. In the previous two attacks, from the information provided it didn't appear to be provoked. This is concerning. If you are going to keep the dog, then some obedience training is needed so the dog is used to being around many other dogs and people of various degrees at once.

2. While he is being trained, if you are going to go out with the dog in public a halter or muzzle is probably going to be the safest option for all involved. I would also ensure the person in charge of the dog at the time is clearly in control, and ensures that when people are within the immediate vicinity of the dog that the dogs attention is with them.

This is a hard decision, I am a dog person, I have two dogs, one we have worked hard with when out in public as she was nervous and insecure (which came across as growling) and another who is so laid back and casual that he has been the victim of dog attack.

#23 HeartMyBoys

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:45 PM

If your dog reacts that way to someone making a noise, then what about a child who pulls its ears or something like that. It's happened twice, and i think both times you've gotten off pretty lightly. Third time maybe not so lucky.
I defnitely agree you should muzzle the dog from now on when walking it.

#24 FeralLIfeHacker

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE (asdf89 @ 09/01/2013, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Definitely start walking the dog with a muzzle. Also, how did your DD react when the dog started barking at the man? Did she pull him closer/say no etc?

I don't know what the legal ramifications would be, but think you should pay the money as he wouldn't have need to go to the doctor if not for your dog.


Yes she did pull him closer and try to keep him from the man but by all accounts he walked 'really close' which didn't allow her to totally stop him from reaching the man.

I didn't think about paying into their acct, I will see if dh can get the details tonight and pay it that way then we both have a record.

I think I will call the vet, who already has bit of history about him, the vet was the once that first pointed out that he was 'headshy', he would crouch when the vet tried to pat him, during vaccinations etc.

Muzzle is a great idea, I will get one and not allow them to take him out without it, that should take away the risk of him biting anyone out in public.

He's not left alone with the baby ever, although I guess there is always the potential for that to happen, which is worrying but maybe the vet will have some advice on training/ behaviour therapy.

thanks everyone, great advice as usual original.gif

#25 Ally'smum

Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:56 PM

I would pay the $70 - your dog bit someone, that is your responsibility.

If it were me I wouldn't keep the dog. We had a dog that was fine with us, but one day out of the blue attempted to attack a young child on a bike, we took him to the RSPCA that day. I could not live with the risk of him hurting anyone.

If you have a very young child, I couldn't live with that risk.

Also, yes this man may have gotten close but in no way should you blame the victim for what happened, what if a young child was to get too close?






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

How to talk about your pregnancy at work

The workplace isn't always a friendly place for pregnant women. Yet working women inclined to conceal a pregnancy from prying coworkers may be better off opening up and carrying on, according to a new study.

Tell us your story to win!

To celebrate Mother's Day this year we are giving you the chance to win one of five great prizes simply by telling us your story.

Where to get help to help your baby sleep

There is so much pressure about having a baby who sleeps 'all night' , it's no wonder you worry about your baby if she wakes in the night.

Vintage baby names having a comeback

What makes some names have comebacks while others silently fade into oblivion? A few factors come into play.

When your partner doesn't want you to breastfeed

Dads can have many reasons for not wanting their partners to breastfeed their baby, but both parents should learn more about it before making a final decision.

Model mum Sarah Stage shares post-baby selfie

Most new mums would recoil at the thought, but Sarah Stage has shared a post-pregnancy selfie just four days after giving birth.

I'll admit it: I have last child parenting fatigue

If you're a new mum and feeling ignored by the older mum/the old hand/the has-been, please know, it's not you, it's me. Blame the last child parenting fatigue.

Exhaustion is not the same as tiredness

Having a new baby isn't tiring - it can be downright exhausting.

Five posterior babies, four home births

I was on a high. I'd done it all by myself with no help from anyone.

Mum's list of birthday gift demands goes viral

We're big fans of kids' birthday parties - but this is one bash we're glad we didn't get an invite to.

Kate Middleton to receive 'loyalty discount' for second birth

Everybody loves a bargain - including the Duchess of Cambridge.

Fish & chip shop owner's sad note goes viral

A lengthy note put on the window of a fish & chip shop has gone viral due to the writer's serious doubts about the romance of travel.

Pregnant women need good nutrition advice, not judgment

Pregnant women are under pressure to do all the "right things" to have a healthy child. It results in women feeling judged about their decisions.

When your child wants you to have another baby

Giving your child a sibling when you don't want to have another baby can be a complex issue.

William Tyrrell's mum speaks out: 'We hope he is still alive'

The mother of missing toddler William Tyrrell says she has a vision that somebody "picked him up and moved him on ... that's the only way ... to explain for him not to be there".

Family comes first for 23-year-old Tommy Connolly

Most 23-year-old blokes spend their hard earned cash on fun times with mates or romantic dinners with their girlfriend, but not Tommy Connolly.

Newborn all-girl quintuplets 'doing great'

The first all-female quintuplets born in the United States were delivered last week, at 28 weeks and two days.

Model mum's big baby silences critics

He may be less than a week old, but baby James Hunter has already helped his model mum silence her critics.

Jammy, Hula Hoop, Rage: Reddit reveals most unusual baby names

A recent Reddit thread has revealed some of the more creative names in the world.

Woman awakens from coma, learns she gave birth

A US woman awakened this week from a four-month-long coma that doctors had feared would be permanent and learned that she had given birth to a baby boy, according to her family.

'Give us a break': mum sent shocking letter over Facebook baby pics

Posting a lot of baby photos doesn't make you a bad person. It may make your Facebook feed a little irritating, but it doesn't make you a bad person.

In defense of the dads who do so much

It's time to shift the focus off what dads aren’t doing and shine it on what they are.

The modern cloth nappies too cute to cover up

If you're only just joining the modern cloth nappy movement, or would like to spruce up your collection, we have to introduce you to Designer Bums.

How breastfeeding can affect your libido

When you’ve just had a baby, having sex isn’t usually top priority. In fact, for a lot of women it rates about as appealing as changing another dirty nappy.

Should pregnant women be allowed to use 'parent and child' car parking spots?

Is it acceptable to use these car parking spots when pregnant? How many of us would admit to doing it?

Healthy baby from sperm taken 48 hours after a man died

Fertility doctors have described their "most extraordinary case" - creating a healthy baby from sperm taken 48 hours after a man had died.

Sign up to our 30 days of #PlayIQ challenge

Sign up to receive 30 amazing tips and ideas for play with baby during the month of April and submit a picture or tip on our social wall for a chance to win an amazing Fisher-Price prize pack.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Last chance to win a year's supply of toys

You have less than a week left to win your child one of five Fisher-Price toy packs valued at over $600 each - hurry, enter today!

Childcare is a big problem, but there's more to it

Let’s keep talking about these issues and not allow them to be put into a neat little box that’s labelled ‘Fix childcare and everything is solved’.

Pink's awesome response to body-shaming trolls

When trolls felt the need to comment on 35-year-old singer-songwriter Pink's weight, her answer was an awesome ode to body love.

Fertility clinic offers egg donors $5000

A national chain of fertility clinics is offering egg donors a $5000 payment to cover their expenses, a first for Australia which is raising concerns the money could act as an inducement.

Baby boy abandoned in India amid fresh surrogacy concerns

Australian officials could do nothing to stop an Australian couple from abandoning their baby son, born through surrogacy in India, after they decided they did not want to bring him to Australia.

Herd immunity and community responsibility: how free-riders can make kids suffer

Individual choice works for haircuts and handbags, but not for preventing infectious diseases that kill kids.

Photographer captures 'unexpected beauty' of birth

If there is one thing Leilani Rogers knows about childbirth, it is that no two deliveries are ever the same.

Expectations vs the reality of making a toddler's clothes

Note to self: less sewing, more life. Not the party dress, but the party. The toddler, as usual, has it all figured out.

Mum meets 'dead' daughter 49 years after birth

In 1965, Zella Jackson-Price was told her premature baby girl had died shortly after birth.

How pregnancy probiotics can help you and your baby

New research suggests that taking specific pregnancy probiotics could be the answer to a range of common pregnancy side effects.

53 creative pregnancy announcements

Announcing that you're expecting can be a time to express your creativity, sense of humour and imagination. Check out how other parents and parents-to-be have broken the news to friends and family.

IKEA hacks for the nursery and kids' rooms

Are you one of those that know the whole IKEA catalogue by heart? Love their stuff but want to personalise it? Here's some inspiration to help you realise the potential of IKEA furniture and fittings.

36 baby names inspired by food and drinks

A French court may have ruled out Nutella as a baby name, but that doesn't have to stop you from taking inspiration from the supermarket (or bottle shop). See what parents in the US have chosen for their delicious little ones.

 

ENTER NOW!

Win a year's worth of toys

Last week to submit a picture of your baby at play for your chance to win. Visit the Play Wall to view our recent entries.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.