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#1 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:29 AM

Hi,

I would really appreciate any feedback I can gather....

When choosing a photographer would you prefer to see a package that contained:
Disc only
Prints only
Prints & Disc
Prints, Canvas & Disc

Do you like to see package options or would you just like  a one off fee that contains the disc only?

How much would you pay for a session with 30 beautiful edited images?

WDYT is the ideal package to make you book a session?

TIA!!

#2 matt1972

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

Anything that also allowed for me to have full resolution digital images would work for me.

#3 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:32 AM

Thanks for the reply.  How much would be your ideal package?

#4 matt1972

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

Well of course ideal would be free!!!
It depends what service was offered. If it was say for my child and it was in a studio with an hour's time, a few costume changes/settings, and a couple of 8 X 12, 4/6 4X6 and maybe a few wallet photos plus the digital files then $300 or something.

This is all off the top of my head so it might not even be in the ballpark.



#5 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:39 AM

Thanks original.gif

I should clarify not in a studio.  For outdoor/on location portraits.

#6 matt1972

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

Is lighting involved or is it all natural light?
Make up services?
Costumes?

#7 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:48 AM

Natural light
Themed if you would like them to be.  
1-2hr session - outfit changes if you would like.
30 edited images.

#8 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:49 AM

No make up services as focusing on children and families.

#9 matt1972

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

So if I was expecting a professional shoot and turned up to a park and found a photographer with 1 camera how would I differentiate you from a tourist?

#10 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:59 AM

I'm not sure what you mean?  As in how would I be dressed?  Would you want to see a uniform?
Would you want to see my bag containing $10k worth of lenses?  Presuming most people booking would have seen my website portfolio/blog prior to booking so know the style and what to expect.

Do you feel only studio styled sessions look professional?

#11 ~BumbleBeeeee~

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:06 AM

LissyLoop, you need to work out what your costs are for running the business, what your tax is, what your insurances are, public liability...work all of that out, then add on a percentage for your time and a percentage for an actual income. There's a proper calculator for this somewhere and I can't put my finger on where it is, if I find it, I'll send it your way.

With all due respect, asking the general public will only cause confusion because naturally, they are going to tell you that they would prefer to pay less. If someone said to me how much would I like to pay for a massage, preferably, I'd have it for free but I can't because it costs to run a massage business and it's someone's time as they massage me. But heck yes, I'd love it for free or as little as possible!! Poor analogy but I hope that makes sense.

Most people don't know or understand that the digital images you are selling is the most valuable, most important item on your price list, because that is what you have invested your time and talent into producing. It's not as simple as "burning the images to disk" because you'll go home and edit the session, you'll use utilities to do so, and you have to have public liability etc to actually conduct the session in the first place. It's an expensive business and that's why a professionally run business has to charge what it does.

All the best, it's a tricky one that's for sure!!!!!! original.gif

(I hope my answer didn't come across as blunt or sharp, I'm typing quickly before visitors arrive!!!!).

#12 ~BumbleBeeeee~

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:11 AM

Matt1972 in that situation, you have already organised with a client to meet at a pre-arranged location. They have probably seen a photograph of you, and if not, then they are more than likely on the lookout for someone carrying professional looking equipment who will introduce themselves professionally, shake their hand, welcome them to their shoot etc original.gif

I don't think that being a studio based shoot makes it any more professional than a non-studio shoot LissyLoop original.gif



#13 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:13 AM

Not sharp at all.  I understand and have done all that.  I'm just trying to get a feel of what the average person would expect to pay and what type of package they would prefer.  I wont be selling myself short if thats what you are concerned about original.gif

#14 matt1972

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:14 AM

QUOTE (LissyLoop @ 09/01/2013, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not sure what you mean?  As in how would I be dressed?  Would you want to see a uniform?
Would you want to see my bag containing $10k worth of lenses?  Presuming most people booking would have seen my website portfolio/blog prior to booking so know the style and what to expect.

Do you feel only studio styled sessions look professional?


No not a uniform. I would need some assurance that you aren't one of the millions of flickr users who has received 1000 likes and thinks that makes them a photographer.
If I am paying for a professional photographer then I want to feel like I am in the hands of a professional whether that is inside a studio or outside. If I am paying for a hobbyist photographer then I am going to be paying a lot less and expecting a lot less.

#15 Lokum

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:17 AM

I'd like to see some options, but I always prefer digital. For one hour+ session, in a studio, plus 30 digi images edited, I'd expect to  pay an established professional in Melbourne $1500+.

For someone working from home and starting out, $300 is more realistic.

#16 matt1972

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:17 AM

QUOTE (~BumbleBeeeee~ @ 09/01/2013, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Matt1972 in that situation, you have already organised with a client to meet at a pre-arranged location. They have probably seen a photograph of you, and if not, then they are more than likely on the lookout for someone carrying professional looking equipment who will introduce themselves professionally, shake their hand, welcome them to their shoot etc original.gif

I don't think that being a studio based shoot makes it any more professional than a non-studio shoot LissyLoop original.gif


To the layperson in 2013 that is everyone with a dlsr.

#17 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:18 AM

Thanks for that.
Professional business not a hobby.

#18 ~BumbleBeeeee~

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:19 AM

QUOTE
Not sharp at all. I understand and have done all that. I'm just trying to get a feel of what the average person would expect to pay and what type of package they would prefer. I wont be selling myself short if thats what you are concerned about


It's a hard one to work out, isn't it?

Are you just starting out at the moment?





#19 MrsLexiK

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:19 AM

I paid under $1000 for our wedding shots. This was for about 90 which were totally edited (as in change if filters, highlights of some things etc) and a full 400ish that where as they were but most also had touch up. We got them all on disc in full high resolution, no photo album or anything or prints. We went that route as I wanted our photos to do what we wanted with them. I have since blown some up, have had one put on a canvas etc.

My friend does baby shots where she charges between $150 -$200 for a session, where you get all the photos to keep and she then makes a photo book with her favs for you. She will be doing out newborn shots and also my real pregnant shots. She can offer both studio light and natural light.

I had some pregnancy shots done the other day, it was one of those sessions things and the pregnancy shots were just a bonus as I had 3 outfit changes. It was in a studio and it cost an absolute bomb. I only ordered as many as I did because I was also getting the image on disc. If they were not giving them to me on disc I would not have ordered that many that is for sure.

I think these days people prefer to have the digital copies because that way they can print what they want. This doesn't work for many photographers though. But there are also people that don't want to so their own thing and just want to have it done for them. It depends on which market you want.

I ended up doing a hardcover photo book with our wedding photos but was then able to include not just the professional ones but also the other ones which were taken by family and friends. I was able to print people of copies, my SIL has to go back to the photographer for any copies she wants.

#20 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:21 AM

Thanks Lokum

#21 ~BumbleBeeeee~

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:21 AM

QUOTE
To the layperson in 2013 that is everyone with a dlsr.


Sadly, very true - you are right there.

I arrange a very specific spot to meet with clients. I don't have a studio for family sessions, all of my work is on location by choice.

Edited by ~BumbleBeeeee~, 09 January 2013 - 10:21 AM.


#22 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:22 AM

Bumblebee - No not just starting.  Just re evaluating my pricing for 2013 and looking for feedback on what people actually want.

#23 LissyLoop

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

Bumblebee - And like you I don't have a studio and work only on location.

#24 ~BumbleBeeeee~

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:24 AM

QUOTE
My friend does baby shots where she charges between $150 -$200 for a session, where you get all the photos to keep and she then makes a photo book with her favs for you. She will be doing out newborn shots and also my real pregnant shots. She can offer both studio light and natural light.


Your friend can't be paying taxes, insurances, and other business costs if she does it that cheaply.

QUOTE
Just re evaluating my pricing for 2013 and


Me too LissyLoop and it's doing my head in.

#25 matt1972

Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:27 AM

QUOTE (MrsLexiK @ 09/01/2013, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I paid under $1000 for our wedding shots. This was for about 90 which were totally edited (as in change if filters, highlights of some things etc) and a full 400ish that where as they were but most also had touch up. We got them all on disc in full high resolution, no photo album or anything or prints. We went that route as I wanted our photos to do what we wanted with them. I have since blown some up, have had one put on a canvas etc.

I think these days people prefer to have the digital copies because that way they can print what they want. This doesn't work for many photographers though. But there are also people that don't want to so their own thing and just want to have it done for them. It depends on which market you want.

I ended up doing a hardcover photo book with our wedding photos but was then able to include not just the professional ones but also the other ones which were taken by family and friends. I was able to print people of copies, my SIL has to go back to the photographer for any copies she wants.


That sounds very similar to our wedding photos. It was under $1,000 and we had 3 or 4 hours at various locations go about 50 photos and the digital copies of 400 photos. That was in the U.S. though.

I nearly fainted when I was told that those kiosks in shopping centres charge $300 for a few baby photos.




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