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#1 antigone_

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

The NSW Births, Deaths and Marriages site is down today so I haven't been able to try looking this up but I'd like to know if there are various ways you can register a baby name.

My grandmother was registered as:

Etheldreda (Audrey) Middle name, Last name,

so Audrey, the name she was actually called, was offically part of her name. This was in the UK in the 1920s, however.

If I wanted to register my baby's name as, for example:

Elizabeth (Betsy) Beatrix Last name

Would this be possible?

Has anyone else registered the intended nickname, together with the full name?

Edited by antigone_, 08 January 2013 - 09:19 PM.


#2 antigone_

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:16 PM

Will swap them, thanks original.gif

Edited by antigone_, 08 January 2013 - 09:18 PM.


#3 Chief Pancake Make

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:19 PM

I recently registered our babies name and I don't recall any provision for nicknames.  I was just the standard form with fill in the boxes for first names and surname - so unless you added the nickname as part of the name I dont think you can, ie the name would end up Elizabeth Betsy Beatrix Smith - Betsy would be a middle name.

#4 Puggle

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:24 PM


Register the full name, then most forms (school enrolment etc) seem to have a space for 'preferred name' so you can fill in the nickname there.

#5 tibs

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

Didn't see a way to do that when I registered my DD 2 months ago.

#6 antigone_

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:28 PM

I just seems a shame that the intended nickname can never be more official, especially in cases where the nickname is quite radically different from the formal name.

I am really in doubt about using my favourite name (Kit) because I want him to be called it exclusively, but also want my father's name of Christopher on the birth certificate, even though he won't ever be called Christopher.

I wish there was some simple way of formalising the nickname - so simple just to put it in brackets as per my grandmother's birth registration sad.gif

#7 PatG

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

If you really want both Christopher and Kit as names on the birth cert then just put them both on.  E.g. Christopher Kit Brown.  Even if you could do it like you Grandmother's seems to have been, what does the child door the rest of his life where there isn't provision on any form he comes across to do anything except first, middle(s), last?  As PPs said, schools usually have "known by" or "preferred name". Often used by students with Asian names who also have an anglicised one, as well as the Thomas (Tom) scenario.

#8 antigone_

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:40 PM

For all intents and purposes, Kit will indeed be the nickname he has for life, unless he decides otherwise. I don't know why people always challenge this when I bring up nickname questions.

He will be called Kit but he has a formal name that is never used when addressing him in daily situations. In the unlikely event he changes this, then that's up to him. I know quite a few Charlies of various ages who are Charles on their birth certificates but are never ever called that.

I only ever go by the nickname I've had all my life. I want him to be named Kit exclusively, but honour my father Christopher on paper.

My mother has worked for eight year transcribing old births, deaths and marriages documents from all over the UK and she is the one I've had this discussion with.

#9 ~Mintie~

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:42 PM

No you can't.

#10 antigone_

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:44 PM

QUOTE (PatG @ 08/01/2013, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you really want both Christopher and Kit as names on the birth cert then just put them both on.  E.g. Christopher Kit Brown.  Even if you could do it like you Grandmother's seems to have been, what does the child door the rest of his life where there isn't provision on any form he comes across to do anything except first, middle(s), last?  As PPs said, schools usually have "known by" or "preferred name". Often used by students with Asian names who also have an anglicised one, as well as the Thomas (Tom) scenario.


Yes, perhaps I am over thinking the potential problems - it just snags with me somehow and so I'm feeling like maybe this isn't the best way to name the kid. I'm used to totally intuitive nicknames for my kids and want the best of both worlds with having a family name with a never before used nickname (my father is Chris).

This might be the very thing that drives me just to put Christopher in the middle and use one of the other names on my list. I'll always pine for a son called Kit though.


#11 PatG

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:45 PM

If its Kit you want to call him then put that as the first name and Christopher as the second. Or the other way around and call hime by his middlename, very common.  I'm not sure why it is more complicated than that? In the example of your Grandmother one of the names was her first and one was the one she was known as, these days it would end up exactly the same but without the brackets.  

I can't think of any way you could have two names with equal billing on a document, even with hyphenated surnames, people have to pick one to be listed first.  Doesn't make the other less important.

Eta, written prior to OP's latest post

Edited by PatG, 08 January 2013 - 09:47 PM.


#12 antigone_

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE (~Mintie~ @ 08/01/2013, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No you can't.


Thanks - that's what I needed to know original.gif

#13 antigone_

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:48 PM

QUOTE (PatG @ 08/01/2013, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If its Kit you want to call him then put that as the first name and Christopher as the second. Or the other way around and call hime by his middlename, very common.  I'm not sure why it is more complicated than that? In the example of your Grandmother one of the names was her first and one was the one she was known as, these days it would end up exactly the same but without the brackets.  

I can't think of any way you could have two names with equal billing on a document, even with hyphenated surnames, people have to pick one to be listed first.  Doesn't make the other less important.


But Kit and Christopher are the same name - that would irritate me no end. Kit is a long-used (though not often anymore) diminutive of Christopher.

http://www.behindthename.com/name/kit

Just like I wouldn't call my child:

James Hamish
Henry Harry
Margaret Peggy

The middles are all diminutives or versions of the first name.

Edited by antigone_, 08 January 2013 - 09:50 PM.


#14 heffalumpsnwoozles

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:54 PM

My great grandma was Amelia on her birth certificate, but she was always called Nellie or Nell. I didn't even find out her name was really Amelia until after she died.

Put Christopher on the BC and call him Kit, it'll be fine. original.gif

#15 Magnus

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:54 PM

I love the name Kit. Surely it will honour your father Christopher if you name your son Kit, seeing as Kit is a diminutive of Christopher.

#16 au*lit

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:54 PM

You're over thinking it. Name him Christopher officially and call him Kit. End of story.

#17 antigone_

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE (heffalumpsnwoozles @ 08/01/2013, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My great grandma was Amelia on her birth certificate, but she was always called Nellie or Nell. I didn't even find out her name was really Amelia until after she died.

Put Christopher on the BC and call him Kit, it'll be fine. original.gif


I just smiled at myself because of your post. I am totally over thinking this original.gif Thanks for reassuring me. It's the very pointy end of my third pregnancy and all I want is an ice cold Chardonnay! I need to dull this whirring head  biggrin.gif rolleyes.gif  Only a few more months!


#18 cezanne

Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:21 PM


Absolutely! Kit is my favourite diminutive of Christopher. Surely you wouldn't think to register him as Christopher (Chris) MN LN!? Kit just isn't a widely recognised nickname, but it it will be how your child is known.



#19 Expelliarmus

Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:35 PM

It will be fine. My niece is Kathleen. (after her paternal grandmother)

On her birth certificate.

She has ALWAYS been Katie. Her birth announcement was that Kathleen Middle Name Surname to be known as Katie has arrived blah blah blah.

No one has EVER called her Kathleen.

Her parents just called her Katie and so did the rest of the world.

#20 Bel Rowley

Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:37 AM

What I've had a friends do is text birth announcements and put one in the paper: Charlotte "Lottie", Frances "Frankie", Henry "Harry". From that point on there's no confusion - you know you're to call the baby Frankie or Harry, even though it's not on the birth certificate. So that's what I'd do in your situation, send an announcement to everyone "We are pleased to welcome Christopher "Kit" Jones".

#21 JRA

Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:45 AM

My grandmother was Ruby all her life, her official name was Annie Rubena. No big deal. She was simply always called Ruby.

DH's father was Jack, which became John, all his life, at the age of about 35 he learned on his birth certificate it was Ray. He never knew that.

#22 TillyTake2

Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:48 AM

Whatever you introduce him as is what he will be known as. If you announce his name as Kit then that is what he will be called. You could then put Christopher more formally on his birth certificate. If you wanted, when you announce his arrival you could say "We are pleased to announce that Kit (Christopher) middle name surname arrived today". I'd take that to mean you wanted him referred to as Kit.

#23 Kikki-B

Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:53 AM

I would name him Christopher and call him Kit (I have a friend who it Christopher but has akways been known as Kit and the name all his uni degrees are Christopher (Kit) Surname.
Just wanted to let you know my pop was named J... E... Surname and he has known as Tom his whole life although ther was no way his first or mn could possible make Tom. I asked him how he got his nn and he said he didn't know, just has always been called Tom for as long as he can remember. His full name is actually a family name that both his father and grand-father held so maybe his mum always wanted to name him Tom but couldn't (on paper at least) because of family tradition?

#24 antigone_

Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:54 AM

QUOTE (TillyTake2 @ 09/01/2013, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whatever you introduce him as is what he will be known as. If you announce his name as Kit then that is what he will be called. You could then put Christopher more formally on his birth certificate. If you wanted, when you announce his arrival you could say "We are pleased to announce that Kit (Christopher) middle name surname arrived today". I'd take that to mean you wanted him referred to as Kit.


I think we'll be doing this. I have a bit more clarity about it today and want to announce very clearly that his name is Kit. If my husband chooses the middle name that I think he will, it won't sund that great with Kit, but it does sound good with Christopher.

Thanks all original.gif I still think it's a real shame we don't have the choice of formalising the intended nickname though. That would be awesome!


#25 IsolaBella

Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:57 AM

As PP have said you can call them whatever you like, but put full version on birth certificate.

DS2 has a long 9 letter name like Christopher. Day to day we call him both Christopher and Kit. I have actually had to put special request to both school and kinder that his FULL name is out in any class lists. The class lists are all Nicknames and they out Kit on it. Fine if others want their kids recorded as NN but for me I like my DSs full name. So I had to request full name is used.

You will have no problems in getting schools etc to use the diminutive. As I said above, I have more issues getting them to use the full name.






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