Jump to content

New York with 23 month old
Would anyone do it? In March?


  • Please log in to reply
20 replies to this topic

#1 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 04:34 PM

Hi

We've been contemplating doing a last minute trip to the states before our daughter turns two and we have to pay for her original.gif
We have taken her long distance before and she was a really good traveller.

My main issue is will it be too cold to do much with her and will it be too "in your face for her?

any tips for accommodation?

or should we just abandon these idea's and head somewhere else original.gif

Thanks!!!



#2 Miss Kiwi

Posted 08 January 2013 - 04:51 PM

Personally I wouldn't take a 2 yr old to NYC, a big city type holiday with a little one is just not my idea of fun.

A holiday at a Fiji resort with a kids club, pool (and bar) and nannies that cost $4 an hour sounds like a more enjoyable and relaxing holiday for all IMO:)

#3 Fabulous

Posted 08 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

We went when our youngest was 16 months and it was fantastic. We stayed in a hotel that was made up of old apartments so it felt like a home away from home. we went in March for 7 nights and didn't wear a jumper until our last day. I think we just got a warm spell though.

Edited by Fabulous, 08 January 2013 - 04:56 PM.


#4 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

I should add, we just went on a trip to europe for a month in october-november. the biggest city we went to was florence - which she loved (for the pigeon chasing and dog spotting). She was a very cruisey traveller and quite enjoyed herself. We were very lucky to have really good weather though which meant we were able to be outdoors quite a bit.
So I guess I'm thinking she might handle it? Though I'm obviously not 100% confident!!!! I think I'm most apprehensive about the weather limiting getting about??

We're not really good with the whole kids club/resort style holidays for longer then about 3 days. We attempted it last year in march for 10 days and it really was about 7 days too long original.gif


#5 elegie

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

NY would be great fun, the only thing to put me off would be having bub on my lap for such a looooong flight (think NO SLEEP). You could be lucky and get a spare seat or two, but maybe not.

DS flew about 25 times before his 2nd birthday, and as a baby it was easy but by the last flight (22 months) I couldn't wait to buy a seat for him. It was a short flight (thank goodness) but I had to follow him around the whole time while he made friends with fellow passengers and hosties, and meals with him on our laps were impossible.

#6 Penguin78

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:10 PM

I visited NYC without kids, but I was surprised at how many things are on offer for kids. Museums, parks, shows etc. We were considering doing it this year but wanted to go to Disneyland instead.

#7 elegie

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:11 PM

double post

Edited by elegie, 08 January 2013 - 05:12 PM.


#8 Peanut

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

If your DD is a good traveller then I'd go for it!  NYC will probably be cold but there is the subway and taxi's and really, so many things to do with kids there!

#9 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

ETA: Missed your earlier post! Take warnings about long haul travel with appropriate grain of salt. wink.gif

Former NYC resident (and American in Australia with TONS of experience flying with under 2s on long haul flights)

New York is an awesome, awesome place to visit, but I wouldn't go in March just to take advantage of a slightly reduced flight cost with a "lap baby" (it's not totally free to fly with a lap child -- you still have to pay a portion of your ticket (full fare + taxes) for the luxury of having a kid on your lap for 24 hours!)

First of all, that is a really long distance to be flying with a 23-month-old on your lap (and not particularly safe for her in the event of turbulence)

Second, March is not typically a fabulous month weather wise. Average lows/highs are 1C - 9C (with a mean of 6C). The temps rise dramatically in April & May, with everything in bloom. March is often too early to get the lovely spring blossoming.

Given that NYC is an expensive city to visit (lots of free things to see, but food & accommodation in the city will set you back a fair bit), I would be inclined to "do it up right" -- that is:

* Go at a better time of year (like Northern hemisphere spring, late summer, or early autumn)
* Go when your daughter is a bit older and can totally appreciate all of the many things to see & do there

Really, the only thing you'd be saving is a portion of an airfare (offset by a long & likely challenging flight). Just not worth the cost in my book, and I say this loving New York to the depths of my soul!

If you are keen to sneak in a trip before your daughter turns 2 and insist on doing the "lap" thing, how about somewhere urban & awesome for kids like Singapore? It's an 8 hour flight from Sydney -- Singapore Air is notorious for good customer service on board, and you will not lack for great stuff to do once you land.

Happy travels!!!

Edited by baddmammajamma, 08 January 2013 - 05:55 PM.


#10 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

Whoops -- missed your post about your daughter being a good traveller (and you not liking the chill out island vibe).

I still vote for Singapore, with New York on the horizon for when she is older. March just doesn't inspire me the way that April through October do!

Good luck with your decision!

#11 Peanut

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

Singapore is another of my favourite places, so I can second BMJ with that!

Sorry, I'm no help.

Edited by Peanut, 08 January 2013 - 06:01 PM.


#12 Bernard Woolley

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:02 PM

I can't speak with BMJ's authority on this original.gif , but we were in New York in January last year. It was 'choose your bra and backpack for their insulation value'-cold, but I'd still consider taking a 2 year old. It's just a great city.

That said, it's not a wildly *child-friendly* city (IMO!). Pram access is not great, nappy-change facilities don't seem to be that prominent, etc. But I hear most of Italy is similar, and if you've enjoyed Florence, I imagine you'll navigate New York just fine biggrin.gif

#13 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:14 PM

Thanks everyone for your replies!

BMJ, thanks for the local insight re the weather - which is the main concern really original.gif  

Virgin only charge $25 each way for an infant, so a $1300 saving....

the flights I'm looking at are 21/3-3/4, I was thinking it would be cold - but not sure if I'm so keen on a 6 degree average - I was thinking it would be more like 11 or 12 (which being from Melbourne considered fine).

The other option we were looking at was Japan. (Singapore didn't really grab us when we stopped over on the way home in October - we have friends there and stayed for a few days).

We figure we haven't been, its a bit closer and has some interesting stuff to do - plus it seems it will be different enough from SE Asia where we have done loads of travel.

But something just keeps me going back to the New York idea when everything seems much more sensible to do just do Japan!

I guess really, its a very nice quandary to be having original.gif



#14 Peanut

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (kandj @ 08/01/2013, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But something just keeps me going back to the New York idea when everything seems much more sensible to do just do Japan!


That's because New York is AWESOME....speaking from a recently fallen-in-love with NYC visitor though!   blush.gif

I've never been to Japan, are the temperatures going to be much different at that time of year?

Edited by Peanut, 08 January 2013 - 06:22 PM.


#15 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:27 PM

I love that you guys are such adventurous travellers -- what a gift for your daughter! original.gif

Just asked my Aussie husband (who is from Melbourne but  lived in NYC for 5 years -- we met there) -- just to make sure I am not being unduly harsh with my recollection of March! wink.gif

His response: "Would this be their ONE big trip to New York? If so, I'd tell them to go at another time. Nothing's in bloom in March -- it's still wintery. They should go later -- like in May -- so they can do all of the great things outdoors."

I can't believe I am discouraging ANYONE from going to NYC because I love that city so much. But one of the things I love most about it is the beautiful parks (archored, of course, by Central Park) and promenades along the rivers. Those things aren't nearly as inspirational and fun if you are cold (IMHO). March *can* get some nice temps, but it can often be a very "blah" time to visit.

If this is going to be your one big trip to NYC, I'd go when you are more likely to get gorgeous weather -- especially given that you will have a young child with you. If you can afford to this trip AND another trip to NYC somewhere in the future, then go for it. New York is spectacular.

Japan sounds very intriguing!

Have you already done my hometown of San Francisco?

Have fun planning your trip!



P.S: You might want to double check the policy with Virgin, as their web site seems to follow the same policy that other international airlines do:

Infants travel free on our domestic and international short haul service; and at 10% of the fare (excluding taxes, fees and surcharges) on our international long haul service – but only if they do not occupy a separate seat.

http://www.virginaustralia.com/au/en/plan/...stance/infants/

Edited by baddmammajamma, 08 January 2013 - 06:28 PM.


#16 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

Thanks again BMJ!

In response to your husbands thoughts - I think it might be our only trip there (never know tho!)...We haven't been to the states at all and I guess we were thinking if we had the opportunity to go then NYC would be the top of the must see's for us.
We sort of looked at the LA/San Fran options but I wasn't sure if we'd get the big city thrill that we seem to be seeking? We figured Disneyland would be a bit lost on a nearly two year old and couldn't work out if the distances were too far for san fran and las vegas etc given we will only have two weeks to do it.

Would be interested in your thoughts though for that area original.gif

As for the virgin deal, I think it is correct? We flew with Singapore to Italy and Audrey only cost $250 total which isn't 10% of the fare? I know its a budget airline but we only paid $50 for with Airasia too...

Will see what happens when it comes to the final screen and the credit card is being entered I guess!!

Annoyingly I have a tonne of Qantas FF points that we could use - but because they charge so much for an infant we almost pay the same amount just in taxes as we do for the full Virgin fare  huh.gif

I'm starting to think maybe we should just pay the extra dosh and go later in the year....

I will continue pondering  original.gif


#17 Fabulous

Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:25 PM

The good thing about March in NYC is that it is kind of low season. Although apparently there is no official low season.

#18 Peanut

Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

We went in early September last year and it was absolutely lovely.  The city itself was a big surprise for me as its "big city" edges are impressively softened by lots of lovely parks and of course, the amazing Central Park.  Prices are generally high no matter when you go, this is one of the premier cities in the world after all.  If this will be your only trip to NYC, and to be honest, most people come away saying they intend to return (including me!), then I'd do it when the city is at its best.  Spring and Autumn are both perfect times to visit IMHO!

#19 lclb

Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:00 PM

I spent 7 months in NYC with my then 11-17 mo old. We were there from Sept '10 to March '11. The winter was horrid (record snow fall) and we were hanging out for March so we could get back outdoors to the park and sun.

March was no better weather wise than the preceding months, it was still cold and it rained, a lot! We barely made it out to the park all month.

NYC is not that friendly for toddlers who are stuck indoors. It's great if you can mix the parks with the museums and shopping.

If you can afford to wait I would not only for the better weather but also because 24 hours with a 23 month old on your lap is not going to be pleasant! I second September being gorgeous, still warm but not unbearably so.

#20 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:08 PM

September is my favourite month in NYC!

I am certainly not THE resident expert on New York travel, but if this is going to be a big trip for you, it's worth doing it under the best circumstances.

September is generally a lovely month for travel to the U.S, especially the east coast.

#21 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:33 PM

Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

I think the general consensus is probably right and we should wait until a better time of year...

I was probably rushing things a bit really anyway...We just returned from a big trip to Europe for the month of october, which is why I guess I was trying to reign the budget in....but its not like we actually need a holiday so soon so it really does seem a bit silly to go now - especially given the weather there will be far from ideal.

I hate thinking rationally wink.gif






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

What you need to know about pregnancy and health insurance

It's not just waiting periods that couples need to consider - there are other factors to consider when thinking about health insurance.

Yummy mummy

Nicole Trunfio breastfeeds baby on Elle magazine cover

Australian model Nicole Trunfio has taken the concept of multitasking to a fashionable new level for Elle Australia.

Warnings after baby girl died while sleeping in bouncer

Parents have been warned about the dangers of letting babies sleep in bouncers and swings following the death of a three-month-old girl.

Coping with fatigue as a parent

Sleep deprivation is a real hazard of caring for a baby. But there are ways to manage the challenges of fatigue better.

A very 21st century issue: parents, parks and smart phones

It's not all the parents, and it's not all the time, but there is often at least one doing it. And sometimes, that 'one' is me.

Appliances

Faulty washing machines linked to house fires

More than 80,000 faulty Samsung washing machines pose a fire threat in homes throughout Australia despite a nationwide recall of the machines.

'I had a lotus birth and I loved it'

Lotus birthing is not all that common, but for a number of women it feels like the most natural thing to do.

7 things you might not know about postnatal depression

Despite its widespread nature, there is still a great amount of mystery surrounding PND - and it's important to try unravelling as much of that as we can.

Is your family's car part of the world's biggest safety recall?

More than 50 million vehicles recalled for potentially lethal airbag fault - is your car affected?

Why drinking water can be deadly for babies

H2O is one of the necessities of life, but for babies a seemingly harmless amount of water can be fatal.

Mother-in-law faceplants during proposal

He had it all planned: a romantic proposal on a windswept beach. The whole family would be there so they'd all be able to celebrate the joyous moment together.

A preschooler suddenly goes mute - and it's not just shyness

When our son stopped talking, our sense of loss was painful and acute.

The mums who ask for a 'wife bonus'

They run their homes like domestic CEOs and work tirelessly to improve their family's social standing. And now, according to a new book, they want an annual perk from their husbands.

Woman shares photo of dimple on breast to warn others of cancer risk

A widely-shared Facebook photograph of a British woman's breast has raised awareness of a more subtle breast cancer symptom.

Starting a family despite a low sperm count

"I'd never really failed a test - how could I fail this particularly manly test?"

It's official: we must better protect our kids from toxic lead exposure

New guidelines have been released, aimed at reducing children's harmful exposure to lead. But they still don't go far enough.

Trouble-shooting toddler social skills

Chances are your toddler's behaviour is all completely normal - but here's how to tackle some common social problems.

Helping your first-born welcome a sibling

We did sigh with joy at the arrival of a royal princess - but, mostly, we sighed with pity at the sight of Prince George being taken to meet her.

Farewell, daytime nap

I've been in denial and I'm not too proud to beg, but it appears I must accept the fact that you have gone. I need to let you go.

The identical triplets who are one in 50 million

The father of identical triplets born in a Texas hospital says his three daughters, including conjoined twins, are "a miracle" sent by God.

Seven questions you should be asking about your health cover

If the last time you assessed your health cover was five years ago, there?s a chance it may no longer suit your needs. To ensure it?s still right for your family, click here for seven questions to ask.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

How to use gas effectively in labour

Many women in labour don't use gas effectively and suffer more side effects than benefits. Here's how to get the most out of this pain relief option.

'He has gastro but that's okay, right?': sick kid etiquette

We cannot place all children who are sick in a bubble till they recover, but we can give other parents a choice about exposing their kids to them.

Ada Nicodemou: 'I can never be completely happy again'

Home and Away actress Ada Nicodemou has opened up about the loss of her stillborn baby.

10 things to consider when you're thinking about trying for a baby

Before you start tracking your menstrual cycle and reading up on the best positions to get pregnant, there are a few other things you may want to consider.

How special surgery and IVF can create a post-vasectomy baby

Cricket legend Glenn McGrath and his second wife Sara are expecting their first child together, thanks to IVF and a delicate surgical sperm retrieval process that helped the couple to conceive.

Belle Gibson's mother 'disgusted and embarrassed'

The mother of disgraced wellness blogger Belle Gibson has accused her daughter of lying about her childhood in an attempt to garner public sympathy.

Doctor's mobile phone 'left inside c-section mum'

A new mum claims a doctor left his mobile phone inside her after delivering her baby via caesarean section.

I'm a mum and I'm following my dreams

I want my kids to know that no matter what happens in life, you can still be who it is that you've always wanted to be.

Those first daycare days

I had this innate 'mum' moment the other day.

'If one person had listened, my life would have been so different'

Katherine's father will die in prison for the horrifying sexual abuse of his daughter. Yet she is the one with the true life sentence.

This new plan undermines breastfeeding and baby health at everyone's expense

Mothers, babies, the health system and the wider society are going to pay the price of this new budget.

Couple to celebrate terminally ill baby's birthday in unique way

Baby Jai Bishop has lived at Starship Hospital for the past seven months, with his parents flying back and forth from Hokitika, 1100km away, to be by his side.

Life On Mars

It's men who need 'retraining', not women

We are all responsible for our own behaviour. Telling victims to harden up is wrong.

Baby Gammy's dad tries to claim charity money

The biological father of baby Gammy has reportedly tried to access charity money raised for the little boy's medical costs.

Where are the childcare places?

It?s all very well to encourage women to work if they choose to, but how can the measures lead to increased workforce participation when women are once again left holding the baby?

The pain of not having babies and not knowing why

After seven years of wishing, hoping, crying, punching pillows and shouting "why me?!", the end result is more than I ever thought possible.

Getting your family finances in order

Whether you're after a new car for a growing family, a bigger house, or are just fixing up your finances, here are the basics on borrowing.

Mum shares graphic selfie to warn against tanning

A mum has shared a graphic photo of her skin cancer treatment as a warning to others.

Does parenthood make us happier?

We can certainly gain higher levels of happiness when we become parents, but the trick is to not get overwhelmed by the pressures of raising our kids.

No, having a dog is not like having a human child

It's obvious these people dote on their pets, but they're barking up the wrong tree.

 

Top baby names

Baby Names

The numbers are in and we can now bring you the 2014 top baby name list for Australia.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.