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#1 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 04:34 PM

Hi

We've been contemplating doing a last minute trip to the states before our daughter turns two and we have to pay for her original.gif
We have taken her long distance before and she was a really good traveller.

My main issue is will it be too cold to do much with her and will it be too "in your face for her?

any tips for accommodation?

or should we just abandon these idea's and head somewhere else original.gif

Thanks!!!



#2 Miss Kiwi

Posted 08 January 2013 - 04:51 PM

Personally I wouldn't take a 2 yr old to NYC, a big city type holiday with a little one is just not my idea of fun.

A holiday at a Fiji resort with a kids club, pool (and bar) and nannies that cost $4 an hour sounds like a more enjoyable and relaxing holiday for all IMO:)

#3 Fabulous

Posted 08 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

We went when our youngest was 16 months and it was fantastic. We stayed in a hotel that was made up of old apartments so it felt like a home away from home. we went in March for 7 nights and didn't wear a jumper until our last day. I think we just got a warm spell though.

Edited by Fabulous, 08 January 2013 - 04:56 PM.


#4 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

I should add, we just went on a trip to europe for a month in october-november. the biggest city we went to was florence - which she loved (for the pigeon chasing and dog spotting). She was a very cruisey traveller and quite enjoyed herself. We were very lucky to have really good weather though which meant we were able to be outdoors quite a bit.
So I guess I'm thinking she might handle it? Though I'm obviously not 100% confident!!!! I think I'm most apprehensive about the weather limiting getting about??

We're not really good with the whole kids club/resort style holidays for longer then about 3 days. We attempted it last year in march for 10 days and it really was about 7 days too long original.gif


#5 elegie

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

NY would be great fun, the only thing to put me off would be having bub on my lap for such a looooong flight (think NO SLEEP). You could be lucky and get a spare seat or two, but maybe not.

DS flew about 25 times before his 2nd birthday, and as a baby it was easy but by the last flight (22 months) I couldn't wait to buy a seat for him. It was a short flight (thank goodness) but I had to follow him around the whole time while he made friends with fellow passengers and hosties, and meals with him on our laps were impossible.

#6 Penguin78

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:10 PM

I visited NYC without kids, but I was surprised at how many things are on offer for kids. Museums, parks, shows etc. We were considering doing it this year but wanted to go to Disneyland instead.

#7 elegie

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:11 PM

double post

Edited by elegie, 08 January 2013 - 05:12 PM.


#8 Peanut

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

If your DD is a good traveller then I'd go for it!  NYC will probably be cold but there is the subway and taxi's and really, so many things to do with kids there!

#9 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

ETA: Missed your earlier post! Take warnings about long haul travel with appropriate grain of salt. wink.gif

Former NYC resident (and American in Australia with TONS of experience flying with under 2s on long haul flights)

New York is an awesome, awesome place to visit, but I wouldn't go in March just to take advantage of a slightly reduced flight cost with a "lap baby" (it's not totally free to fly with a lap child -- you still have to pay a portion of your ticket (full fare + taxes) for the luxury of having a kid on your lap for 24 hours!)

First of all, that is a really long distance to be flying with a 23-month-old on your lap (and not particularly safe for her in the event of turbulence)

Second, March is not typically a fabulous month weather wise. Average lows/highs are 1C - 9C (with a mean of 6C). The temps rise dramatically in April & May, with everything in bloom. March is often too early to get the lovely spring blossoming.

Given that NYC is an expensive city to visit (lots of free things to see, but food & accommodation in the city will set you back a fair bit), I would be inclined to "do it up right" -- that is:

* Go at a better time of year (like Northern hemisphere spring, late summer, or early autumn)
* Go when your daughter is a bit older and can totally appreciate all of the many things to see & do there

Really, the only thing you'd be saving is a portion of an airfare (offset by a long & likely challenging flight). Just not worth the cost in my book, and I say this loving New York to the depths of my soul!

If you are keen to sneak in a trip before your daughter turns 2 and insist on doing the "lap" thing, how about somewhere urban & awesome for kids like Singapore? It's an 8 hour flight from Sydney -- Singapore Air is notorious for good customer service on board, and you will not lack for great stuff to do once you land.

Happy travels!!!

Edited by baddmammajamma, 08 January 2013 - 05:55 PM.


#10 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

Whoops -- missed your post about your daughter being a good traveller (and you not liking the chill out island vibe).

I still vote for Singapore, with New York on the horizon for when she is older. March just doesn't inspire me the way that April through October do!

Good luck with your decision!

#11 Peanut

Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

Singapore is another of my favourite places, so I can second BMJ with that!

Sorry, I'm no help.

Edited by Peanut, 08 January 2013 - 06:01 PM.


#12 Bernard Woolley

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:02 PM

I can't speak with BMJ's authority on this original.gif , but we were in New York in January last year. It was 'choose your bra and backpack for their insulation value'-cold, but I'd still consider taking a 2 year old. It's just a great city.

That said, it's not a wildly *child-friendly* city (IMO!). Pram access is not great, nappy-change facilities don't seem to be that prominent, etc. But I hear most of Italy is similar, and if you've enjoyed Florence, I imagine you'll navigate New York just fine biggrin.gif

#13 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:14 PM

Thanks everyone for your replies!

BMJ, thanks for the local insight re the weather - which is the main concern really original.gif  

Virgin only charge $25 each way for an infant, so a $1300 saving....

the flights I'm looking at are 21/3-3/4, I was thinking it would be cold - but not sure if I'm so keen on a 6 degree average - I was thinking it would be more like 11 or 12 (which being from Melbourne considered fine).

The other option we were looking at was Japan. (Singapore didn't really grab us when we stopped over on the way home in October - we have friends there and stayed for a few days).

We figure we haven't been, its a bit closer and has some interesting stuff to do - plus it seems it will be different enough from SE Asia where we have done loads of travel.

But something just keeps me going back to the New York idea when everything seems much more sensible to do just do Japan!

I guess really, its a very nice quandary to be having original.gif



#14 Peanut

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (kandj @ 08/01/2013, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But something just keeps me going back to the New York idea when everything seems much more sensible to do just do Japan!


That's because New York is AWESOME....speaking from a recently fallen-in-love with NYC visitor though!   blush.gif

I've never been to Japan, are the temperatures going to be much different at that time of year?

Edited by Peanut, 08 January 2013 - 06:22 PM.


#15 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:27 PM

I love that you guys are such adventurous travellers -- what a gift for your daughter! original.gif

Just asked my Aussie husband (who is from Melbourne but  lived in NYC for 5 years -- we met there) -- just to make sure I am not being unduly harsh with my recollection of March! wink.gif

His response: "Would this be their ONE big trip to New York? If so, I'd tell them to go at another time. Nothing's in bloom in March -- it's still wintery. They should go later -- like in May -- so they can do all of the great things outdoors."

I can't believe I am discouraging ANYONE from going to NYC because I love that city so much. But one of the things I love most about it is the beautiful parks (archored, of course, by Central Park) and promenades along the rivers. Those things aren't nearly as inspirational and fun if you are cold (IMHO). March *can* get some nice temps, but it can often be a very "blah" time to visit.

If this is going to be your one big trip to NYC, I'd go when you are more likely to get gorgeous weather -- especially given that you will have a young child with you. If you can afford to this trip AND another trip to NYC somewhere in the future, then go for it. New York is spectacular.

Japan sounds very intriguing!

Have you already done my hometown of San Francisco?

Have fun planning your trip!



P.S: You might want to double check the policy with Virgin, as their web site seems to follow the same policy that other international airlines do:

Infants travel free on our domestic and international short haul service; and at 10% of the fare (excluding taxes, fees and surcharges) on our international long haul service – but only if they do not occupy a separate seat.

http://www.virginaustralia.com/au/en/plan/...stance/infants/

Edited by baddmammajamma, 08 January 2013 - 06:28 PM.


#16 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

Thanks again BMJ!

In response to your husbands thoughts - I think it might be our only trip there (never know tho!)...We haven't been to the states at all and I guess we were thinking if we had the opportunity to go then NYC would be the top of the must see's for us.
We sort of looked at the LA/San Fran options but I wasn't sure if we'd get the big city thrill that we seem to be seeking? We figured Disneyland would be a bit lost on a nearly two year old and couldn't work out if the distances were too far for san fran and las vegas etc given we will only have two weeks to do it.

Would be interested in your thoughts though for that area original.gif

As for the virgin deal, I think it is correct? We flew with Singapore to Italy and Audrey only cost $250 total which isn't 10% of the fare? I know its a budget airline but we only paid $50 for with Airasia too...

Will see what happens when it comes to the final screen and the credit card is being entered I guess!!

Annoyingly I have a tonne of Qantas FF points that we could use - but because they charge so much for an infant we almost pay the same amount just in taxes as we do for the full Virgin fare  huh.gif

I'm starting to think maybe we should just pay the extra dosh and go later in the year....

I will continue pondering  original.gif


#17 Fabulous

Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:25 PM

The good thing about March in NYC is that it is kind of low season. Although apparently there is no official low season.

#18 Peanut

Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

We went in early September last year and it was absolutely lovely.  The city itself was a big surprise for me as its "big city" edges are impressively softened by lots of lovely parks and of course, the amazing Central Park.  Prices are generally high no matter when you go, this is one of the premier cities in the world after all.  If this will be your only trip to NYC, and to be honest, most people come away saying they intend to return (including me!), then I'd do it when the city is at its best.  Spring and Autumn are both perfect times to visit IMHO!

#19 lclb

Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:00 PM

I spent 7 months in NYC with my then 11-17 mo old. We were there from Sept '10 to March '11. The winter was horrid (record snow fall) and we were hanging out for March so we could get back outdoors to the park and sun.

March was no better weather wise than the preceding months, it was still cold and it rained, a lot! We barely made it out to the park all month.

NYC is not that friendly for toddlers who are stuck indoors. It's great if you can mix the parks with the museums and shopping.

If you can afford to wait I would not only for the better weather but also because 24 hours with a 23 month old on your lap is not going to be pleasant! I second September being gorgeous, still warm but not unbearably so.

#20 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:08 PM

September is my favourite month in NYC!

I am certainly not THE resident expert on New York travel, but if this is going to be a big trip for you, it's worth doing it under the best circumstances.

September is generally a lovely month for travel to the U.S, especially the east coast.

#21 kandj

Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:33 PM

Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

I think the general consensus is probably right and we should wait until a better time of year...

I was probably rushing things a bit really anyway...We just returned from a big trip to Europe for the month of october, which is why I guess I was trying to reign the budget in....but its not like we actually need a holiday so soon so it really does seem a bit silly to go now - especially given the weather there will be far from ideal.

I hate thinking rationally wink.gif






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