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#26 cheekymonkeysmum

Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

Not in the sense of god and satan type thing.

Though when a loved one passes away i guess we say and think that they are looking at us from above maybe not in heaven maybe as a sprit i  don't really know maybe we say it to help us to know they are still around.

I was raised atheist so was dp and still am.

Sorry for your loss OP.

Edited by cheekymonkeysmum, 06 January 2013 - 10:22 PM.


#27 meemee75

Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:20 PM

Sure..you can't really prove anything is 100% until it's happened I guess  
For me I  it's like.....

I 'm 100% confident in the fact the sun will rise in the east  tomorrow morning.
It's just something i just know will come to passing barring any major catastrophic event.

This is how i feel about the non-existence of God/heaven & Hell

I was raised a Catholic and went to catholic schools and probably belived in God until my 20's then something just clicked.
Religious education for young children is akin to brainwashing. Adults are able to make up their own ,but children who are taught about religion as "facts"??

There is so much peace and freedom in NOT believing for me. It was like unloading a truckfull of baggage.

Some people find themselves with religion, I think I found myself when I let it go.

Edited by meemee75, 06 January 2013 - 10:22 PM.


#28 caroldiem

Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:22 PM

Thanks Pooks_ watching it now original.gif

Do any of you have any thoughts on the youtube video i posted in my first post about the 4 year old boy who died and went to heaven but then returned?



#29 Expelliarmus

Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (caroldiem @ 06/01/2013, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree howdo it is a horrible thought and i hope i am wronggggg

I can't recall what the bible says my FIL would know

It says a lot of things and we'd be here a long time teasing out all the meanings of everything the Bible apparently says about going to hell.

This link is not from my faith but it does say what my beliefs on the matter are.
http://www.internetchurchofchrist.org/pear...nsgotohell.html

In short, non-believers are not doomed to Hell. Obeying the Natural Law written on their hearts or  loving their neighbour as they love themselves,  fulfils all of God's law.

Edited by howdo, 06 January 2013 - 10:26 PM.


#30 caroldiem

Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:33 PM

jameses mum - Yes there's no science behind faith that's for sure thankyou for answering my question original.gif



#31 Mitis angelam

Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (caroldiem @ 06/01/2013, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't get what is wrong with me why can't she come to me in my dreams


I don't think it's a matter of anything being wrong with you.  Think of it this way - Paul talks about each person being given different spiritual gifts, as of wisdom or knowledge or faith or what have you.  He doesn't list revelation in dreams, but I can see how it could fall into the same kind of thing.  And the point is that each of us is given different gifts, and we're meant to use them to help one another.  So others might be having dreams which comfort you, and you might do something else which serves them.  The mutuality builds up the whole community.  The question might not be, what is wrong with you?  But, what is the gift you have that others might not?

QUOTE (caroldiem @ 06/01/2013, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do any of you have any thoughts on the youtube video i posted in my first post about the 4 year old boy who died and went to heaven but then returned?


I've heard/read of a lot of these.  I put them down to a kind of hallucination in the near-death state, and I don't trust them.

#32 **Xena**

Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

I don't no but then I am not Christian but Pagan.

I do however believe in something I call the 'life stream' in which all living things return to the Earth and nourish it. That our spirits live on in a way through the Earth if that makes sense.

#33 fairyflosser

Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:06 AM

I know what you mean. I feel hell would be unfair and cant get my head around it. But, here is my take on with a few different ideas related to the subject: Only God has the divine nature to understand why he does what he does, we are not suppost to know. some things are left hidden for a reason.

If God inspired the bible and all its writings, then heaven and hell would be truth. In the bible it says jesus does not lie. In fact, he is the only one who has never lied.

If you believe in the bible as complete truth, you would have to conclude that the road to heaven is narrow.The reason for this is most people do not want to be disciples or followers of jesus. This means to be in close relationship with him daily and obeying his laws to the best of your ability.

God also says in the bible, how can light be with darkness? it doesnt make sense that people who dont wish to be in heaven with God will be. Thats like me inviting an enemy of mine to my birthday party.

God does say in the bible that he is made it clear of his existence through creation. In my experience, most people believe or want to believe in God, but dont take it a step further and find out what he wants for their lives/ enter a relationship with him by prayer/ reading of his word. so yes, i do believe in heaven and hell because the bible says its true, and i believe it is the inspired word of God that is totally relevant for today.

#34 IShallWearMidnight

Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:00 AM

I wish I did, but I don't have faith. I'd love to think that we will see our loved ones again

#35 leisamd

Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:10 AM

Yes I do.

#36 crackles

Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:42 AM

Well, nowhere in the bible does it mention u go to heaven when u die or anything about immortality of the soul. The only person who has gone to heaven is Jesus and that was only after he was raised to life again. He will return to earth again when God sends him to set up God's kingdom on earth. In short, heaven is where God dwells.

As for hell... It simply means a covered place ie grave. Eg you hell potatoes meaning u cover them with dirt. The different meanings for 'hell' in the bible are 'sheol' and 'hades' which simply means a covered place ie the grave and 'Gehenna' which just refers to the rubbish dump that was always burning just outside Jerusalem.

So in short when u die your breath returns to God who gave it in the first place (ecclesiastes 12v7) and then your body gets buried in the ground (or cremated, whatever) and that's it. The dead don't know anything.

The resurrection of the faithful is a whole different topic

Edited by crackles, 21 January 2013 - 01:27 PM.




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