Jump to content

Sudden refusal of right breast
16 week old


  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

#1 Futureself

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:36 PM

For the last 48 hours my 16 week DS is refusing to fed from my right breast - he yells, cries, squirms, arches his back, pulls off and the most I can get him to do is two or three minutes immediately after letdown but he mumbles and grumbles for most of that even with his mouth full. He's a slow, methodical feeder usually and it takes him 15-20 minutes on each side to do a feed so 2 or 3 minutes can't be draining the breast.

  • There's definitely milk there as it ends up on his face and fills the nipple sheild when he comes off.
  • The flow is slower from the right but I've tried switching and doing it first, then second after the left, then starting on the left but switching to the right after a couple of minutes - but nothing helps.
  • I'm expressing that right boob after each feed ATM as I'm worried about supply if he keeps refusing

What on earth is going on??? Can anyone shed some light? We'd finally reached a good feeding place after such a rocky start where his weight gains are now fabulous, he's happy, I'm happy and suddenly this  sad.gif


#2 deejie

Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:26 PM

Both my children have refused my left side around the 3-5 month mark. The flow on the left has never been as good as the right, even though with DS2 there was certainly not difference in supply. Both would latch on, if I really pushed DS2 in particular I might get a minute or two of feeding but they would be fussing, squirming and tugging the whole time. Put them on the right side, gulping away happy as can be! I think at this age they become fussy. Why work harder for milk on one side when you can have it gush on the other? Too clever for their own good original.gif Nothing I could do after a while could entice either baby to take it.

It may be worth clearing any medical problems with your GP (? ear issue) particularly if the refusal is recent and acute. Alternatively, could there possibly be discomfort in the neck area making feeding on that side uncomfortable (? chiro/osteo check).

If the refusal turns out to be a chronic problem, there is really nothing for you to worry about supply and nutrition wise. DS2 has been feeding off the right side only since 4 months of age and he is now 12.5 months. DS1 fed off the right side from a similar age until he self weaned at 23 months. The preferred side picks up in supply to cope with the increased demand and is capable of feeding your child on its own. Your baby will definitely not go hungry.

The only downside from feeding from one side long term is that you (temporarily) become a tad lopsided wink.gif

Good luck!

ETA-- if the flow is a bit slower on one side, have you tried feeding without the nipple shield to improve accessibility and flow? Just a thought.

Edited by deejie, 06 January 2013 - 07:28 PM.


#3 Futureself

Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:03 PM

Thanks deejie - reassuring to know that there's the option of one breast doing all the work! I've fought pretty hard to get this far so any issue makes me a bit panicked I think.
He didn't sleep as well as usual last night so I wonder if it's all related but he doesn't seem to be in pain and moves freely on his mat rolling in both directions with ease. I might check with the GP tomorrow, thanks I didn't think of ears or pain being the issue.
As for the shield, I was hoping to really concentrate on perhaps not using them this week and have been researching more tips and tricks above what the LC suggested. Trouble is, DS's attachment really is poor without them and my trials last fortnight without the shield them left me with a sore, misshapen nipple. sad.gif

#4 aidensmum

Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:08 PM

Ear infection was my first thought?

#5 Futureself

Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE (aidensmum @ 06/01/2013, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ear infection was my first thought

hmm  So, it would be the lower ear on that side that could be the culprit if infected? Or could it be either ear?

#6 feralisles

Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:19 PM

Both of mine did this OP, but I can't remember if they both rejected the same side!  I never found out why, but ended up feeding from one side only with no problems at all (and I don't have big boobs LOL!)  I think once they start to take less from one side the supply in that breast diminishes, which gets them more frustrated and more likely to refuse.  It is a bit of a vicious cycle - at least with the diminishing supply you aren't likely to get mastitis if he does stop taking that breast altogether.  Isn't it amazing that supply is regulated in each breast individually!
And in case this happens to you, the lopsidedness is definitely temporary.

#7 Felix101

Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:49 PM

I had the same thing happen with DS around 4 months too.

I just kept expressing to keep supply up, and kept trying every other feed (but not letting him get frustrated or cranky - just one or two quick attempts then on to the other side). He got back on after a few days like nothing had ever happened original.gif

I also suspected ear infection, and had him checked out by a doc, but he was fine. Someone also suggested it could have been teeth, but I think he just wanted to keep me on my toes...

#8 lucky 2

Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:44 PM

Maybe get the GP to have a look in his mouth too, has he got a tongue tie that's been missed or is there another reason why he is needing a nipple shield or you get a squashed nipple? eg inverted or short nipple.
If you don't want to answer my q. please ignore it original.gif , I'm pretty nosey.
Ear infection crossed my mind too, it often isn't this though but it's important to cross out medical causes.
Often it passes so it's great you are expressing instead.
Perhaps consider sitting in bed or in a recliner chair/lounge, recline to abour a 45degree angle and put baby on your chest.
He may be able to find your breast with or without help and have a feed this way rather than him lying across you so one ear is up or down.
This is called baby led attachment and the link below explains it and has photos.
https://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/attachment-breast
It crossed my mind and might be worth a try in a situation of breast refusal as it takes the pressure of you and baby.
If you start with a baby who is just waking and calm then this might help, he may attach without being fully awake.
You can still use the shield if you need to.
It might be worth seeing the LC again to have a go at bfing without the shield.
All the best.

#9 libbylu

Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

My DS went through a breast refusal stage at 4 months, with one breast being worse than the other - he was soley breastfed.  It lasted for about two weeks.  I had most success with the night feeds and early morning feeds - it was better if he was sleepy.  He seriously must have hardly drunk much that whole time and my breasts were engorged and very painful.  It was quite stressful. Then he got over it all of a sudden and continued feeding as before.

Another thing to check for is that your DS doesn't have an ear infection and it is painful for him to lie on that side.

#10 Futureself

Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:06 AM

DH held him on the 'bad side' to settle him last night and DS was fine so no pressure pain from the ear. I've also checked his temp a few times and not up and he did his normal good nights sleep last night so I don't think it's an infection.

QUOTE (lucky 2 @ 06/01/2013, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you start with a baby who is just waking and calm then this might help, he may attach without being fully awake.

Thanks, this worked a treat this morning and the 5am feed went off without a hitch whilst he was half awake  original.gif  The 7am feed he was a bit grizzly but I stripped him off, went skin to skin and he stayed there even though it lacked some enthusiasm. He fed long and lustily from the good side straight after too so I expressed a little longer off the right.


QUOTE (lucky 2 @ 06/01/2013, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe get the GP to have a look in his mouth too, has he got a tongue tie that's been missed or is there another reason why he is needing a nipple shield or you get a squashed nipple? eg inverted or short nipple.
If you don't want to answer my q. please ignore it original.gif , I'm pretty nosey.

Nosey is fine. original.gif  The shields frustrate me but it seems they are here to stay. The LC identified my left nipple as slightly inverted but the right is 'normal' . I've had the Paed and my GP as well as the LC and an MCHN  check his tongue since leaving hospital but apparently it is fine so not the reason for the poor attachment. I shape the breast, try baby led attachment...my nipple always ends up either 'lipstick shaped' or red raw. I'm admittedly a bit scared now to mess with it all since it's working with the shields (well, it was until he decided my right boob was evil) but really would dearly love him off the shields, even just one.

Thanks libbylu & Felix101 I'll keep offering and hopefully it's just a passing phase with him too!



#11 lucky 2

Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

Great to hear your baby has consented to some contact with the evil boob!
Skin to skin is always worth trying, it cant hurt and it may help.
I suppose you are stuck using the shields if your nipple cant get deep enough in his mouth without it.
There is no harm in trying every now and again with out the shield, it still might happen as his mouth is getting bigger and your nipple might get more stretchy.
All the best.

#12 kwiggle

Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:28 AM

DS did this for a while, then a few weeks later refused the OTHER boob.  Babies are strange creatures unsure.gif .  My only advice would be to keep expressing in the hope your supply will remain ok.  Could also give you a good freezer stock for later.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

I'll admit it: I have last child parenting fatigue

If you're a new mum and feeling ignored by the older mum/the old hand/the has-been, please know, it's not you, it's me. Blame the last child parenting fatigue.

Exhaustion is not the same as tiredness

Having a new baby isn't tiring - it can be downright exhausting.

Five posterior babies, four home births

I was on a high. I'd done it all by myself with no help from anyone.

Mum's list of birthday gift demands goes viral

We're big fans of kids' birthday parties - but this is one bash we're glad we didn't get an invite to.

Kate Middleton to receive 'loyalty discount' for second birth

Everybody loves a bargain - including the Duchess of Cambridge.

Fish & chip shop owner's sad note goes viral

A lengthy note put on the window of a fish & chip shop has gone viral due to the writer's serious doubts about the romance of travel.

Pregnant women need good nutrition advice, not judgment

Pregnant women are under pressure to do all the "right things" to have a healthy child. It results in women feeling judged about their decisions.

When your child wants you to have another baby

Giving your child a sibling when you don't want to have another baby can be a complex issue.

William Tyrrell's mum speaks out: 'We hope he is still alive'

The mother of missing toddler William Tyrrell says she has a vision that somebody "picked him up and moved him on ... that's the only way ... to explain for him not to be there".

Family comes first for 23-year-old Tommy Connolly

Most 23-year-old blokes spend their hard earned cash on fun times with mates or romantic dinners with their girlfriend, but not Tommy Connolly.

Newborn all-girl quintuplets 'doing great'

The first all-female quintuplets born in the United States were delivered last week, at 28 weeks and two days.

Model mum's big baby silences critics

He may be less than a week old, but baby James Hunter has already helped his model mum silence her critics.

Jammy, Hula Hoop, Rage: Reddit reveals most unusual baby names

A recent Reddit thread has revealed some of the more creative names in the world.

Woman awakens from coma, learns she gave birth

A US woman awakened this week from a four-month-long coma that doctors had feared would be permanent and learned that she had given birth to a baby boy, according to her family.

'Give us a break': mum sent shocking letter over Facebook baby pics

Posting a lot of baby photos doesn't make you a bad person. It may make your Facebook feed a little irritating, but it doesn't make you a bad person.

In defense of the dads who do so much

It's time to shift the focus off what dads aren’t doing and shine it on what they are.

The modern cloth nappies too cute to cover up

If you're only just joining the modern cloth nappy movement, or would like to spruce up your collection, we have to introduce you to Designer Bums.

How breastfeeding can affect your libido

When you’ve just had a baby, having sex isn’t usually top priority. In fact, for a lot of women it rates about as appealing as changing another dirty nappy.

Should pregnant women be allowed to use 'parent and child' car parking spots?

Is it acceptable to use these car parking spots when pregnant? How many of us would admit to doing it?

Healthy baby from sperm taken 48 hours after a man died

Fertility doctors have described their "most extraordinary case" - creating a healthy baby from sperm taken 48 hours after a man had died.

Sign up to our 30 days of #PlayIQ challenge

Sign up to receive 30 amazing tips and ideas for play with baby during the month of April and submit a picture or tip on our social wall for a chance to win an amazing Fisher-Price prize pack.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Sign up to our 30 days of #PlayIQ challenge

Sign up to receive 30 amazing tips and ideas for play with baby during the month of April and submit a picture or tip on our social wall for a chance to win an amazing Fisher-Price prize pack.

Childcare is a big problem, but there's more to it

Let’s keep talking about these issues and not allow them to be put into a neat little box that’s labelled ‘Fix childcare and everything is solved’.

Pink's awesome response to body-shaming trolls

When trolls felt the need to comment on 35-year-old singer-songwriter Pink's weight, her answer was an awesome ode to body love.

Fertility clinic offers egg donors $5000

A national chain of fertility clinics is offering egg donors a $5000 payment to cover their expenses, a first for Australia which is raising concerns the money could act as an inducement.

Baby boy abandoned in India amid fresh surrogacy concerns

Australian officials could do nothing to stop an Australian couple from abandoning their baby son, born through surrogacy in India, after they decided they did not want to bring him to Australia.

Herd immunity and community responsibility: how free-riders can make kids suffer

Individual choice works for haircuts and handbags, but not for preventing infectious diseases that kill kids.

Photographer captures 'unexpected beauty' of birth

If there is one thing Leilani Rogers knows about childbirth, it is that no two deliveries are ever the same.

Expectations vs the reality of making a toddler's clothes

Note to self: less sewing, more life. Not the party dress, but the party. The toddler, as usual, has it all figured out.

Mum meets 'dead' daughter 49 years after birth

In 1965, Zella Jackson-Price was told her premature baby girl had died shortly after birth.

How pregnancy probiotics can help you and your baby

New research suggests that taking specific pregnancy probiotics could be the answer to a range of common pregnancy side effects.

53 creative pregnancy announcements

Announcing that you're expecting can be a time to express your creativity, sense of humour and imagination. Check out how other parents and parents-to-be have broken the news to friends and family.

IKEA hacks for the nursery and kids' rooms

Are you one of those that know the whole IKEA catalogue by heart? Love their stuff but want to personalise it? Here's some inspiration to help you realise the potential of IKEA furniture and fittings.

36 baby names inspired by food and drinks

A French court may have ruled out Nutella as a baby name, but that doesn't have to stop you from taking inspiration from the supermarket (or bottle shop). See what parents in the US have chosen for their delicious little ones.

 

ENTER NOW!

Win a year's worth of toys

Receive a daily email from Essential Baby for just the month of April with great play tips and ideas, then submit your baby at play photos to our Playwall, Instagram or Twitter for your chance to win.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.