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#1 purpleblackqueen

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

Just discovered my neighbour (who has many camera around his property) has one pointing at our fence- looks to me and the neighbour across the road, that it is pointing over our fence.

They did this to a previous person on the other side of my neighbours too,- until they got told to remove it.

To me this is an invasion of privacy.

WDYT????

Across the road said I should be calling the police and having them ordered to remove it.

These people have also been in my house recently and seem to be reporting back to the old owners (whom  have relos in jail for armed robbery and history of drug offences) what I have done to the property, which also leaves me a little uneasy.





#2 fancie shmancie

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:39 PM


I would be seeking advice from your local police station first thing tomorrow re the camera and your concerns about the information they are passing on.

I would not ever be inviting the neighbours inside your house again, nor telling them any information about current renovations and whatever you decide to change in the future.  If they ask, just say that you are slappling some paint on or putting shelves up,  however I think you need to avoid them like the plague.



#3 ubermum

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:41 PM

I am sure that so long as the cameras are on their property, they can point them in any direction they want. If they erected a 20ft pole to put them on and point into your place, that would probably be against some law, but attached to their own home and just pointing in your direction, no issue.
Are you even sure they are real? There is so many fakes on the market to give the impression of security.

As an aside, I had to attend a property with police last year (picking up a patient on a mental health order). Anyway, on arrival at the property, it was covered in security cameras. One of the police officers remarked that houses like that often belong to people doing the wrong thing, particularly drug dealers.

I wouldn't worry PBQ. If it were me, I would put a screen up that blocks the view of the camera.

#4 miinii

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:42 PM

I would be calling the police for sure. I dont see any reason for them to have a camera pointing at your property. It would certainly make me very un easy to say the least.

#5 purpleblackqueen

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:43 PM

QUOTE (fancie @ 06/01/2013, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would be seeking advice from your local police station first thing tomorrow re the camera and your concerns about the information they are passing on.

I would not ever be inviting the neighbours inside your house again, nor telling them any information about current renovations and whatever you decide to change in the future.  If they ask, just say that you are slappling some paint on or putting shelves up,  however I think you need to avoid them like the plague.



I intend to avoid them like the plague.

#6 purpleblackqueen

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (ubermum @ 06/01/2013, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am sure that so long as the cameras are on their property, they can point them in any direction they want. If they erected a 20ft pole to put them on and point into your place, that would probably be against some law, but attached to their own home and just pointing in your direction, no issue.
Are you even sure they are real? There is so many fakes on the market to give the impression of security.

As an aside, I had to attend a property with police last year (picking up a patient on a mental health order). Anyway, on arrival at the property, it was covered in security cameras. One of the police officers remarked that houses like that often belong to people doing the wrong thing, particularly drug dealers.

I wouldn't worry PBQ. If it were me, I would put a screen up that blocks the view of the camera.



They are real, the person that we bought this place off installed them, they have at least 4-5 that we can see.



QUOTE (ubermum @ 06/01/2013, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am sure that so long as the cameras are on their property, they can point them in any direction they want. If they erected a 20ft pole to put them on and point into your place, that would probably be against some law, but attached to their own home and just pointing in your direction, no issue.
Are you even sure they are real? There is so many fakes on the market to give the impression of security.

As an aside, I had to attend a property with police last year (picking up a patient on a mental health order). Anyway, on arrival at the property, it was covered in security cameras. One of the police officers remarked that houses like that often belong to people doing the wrong thing, particularly drug dealers.

I wouldn't worry PBQ. If it were me, I would put a screen up that blocks the view of the camera.



They are real, the person that we bought this place off installed them, they have at least 4-5 that we can see.



#7 Stellajoy

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:50 PM

Are they friendly? Can you go and ask them to point it away?

I don't always think running to the cops is the best first solution.

#8 Glr-r

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:51 PM

In WA you can have them pointing on your own property but not anyone else's, I'd be having a work with the local police.

#9 slinky

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:52 PM

People can have cameras on  their property so long as they are only pointed at their property. Street views and else where are illegal. Talk to the police, who will ask them to divert their cameras to their property only.

#10 purpleblackqueen

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (Stellajoy @ 06/01/2013, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are they friendly? Can you go and ask them to point it away?

I don't always think running to the cops is the best first solution.



He is very rude, she is nice to your face and then stabbed people in the back (heard this from many people in the street).

He yelled at my daughter the other night night for standing on her bedside table to lock her window, as she can't reach the lock- (her window faces their kitchen (they dont have window coverings and you can see straight in)


Edited by purpleblackqueen, 06 January 2013 - 04:53 PM.


#11 Glr-r

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

How did he see in her window, do you have short fences between the houses?

#12 Stellajoy

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:57 PM

Maybe approach her about it then? A good place to start.

They could be your neighbors for the next 20 years, I wouldn't want to start off that relationship by asking the cops to pay them a visit!

#13 purpleblackqueen

Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (Glr-r @ 06/01/2013, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How did he see in her window, do you have short fences between the houses?



We have a 2mtr fence, but she was standing on the furniture to reach the window.

#14 ubermum

Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

PBQ listening to gossip about your neighbours is not a good way to start a relationship with people that you could have to live next to for a long time. Maybe the person telling the story is the local P.I.T.A. and that is why she got backstabbed. If you hear gossip, nod and smile, don''t add any and then make up your own mind based on your own experience with them.

#15 purpleblackqueen

Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (ubermum @ 06/01/2013, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
PBQ listening to gossip about your neighbours is not a good way to start a relationship with people that you could have to live next to for a long time. Maybe the person telling the story is the local P.I.T.A. and that is why she got backstabbed. If you hear gossip, nod and smile, don''t add any and then make up your own mind based on your own experience with them.



Well after their attitude towards DD, I want nothing to do with them at all. The woman that told me as never spoken to the people, and she is not the only neighbour saying this, all the neighbours around me as saying the same thing.

#16 purpleblackqueen

Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:05 PM

DD also just told me that today when she was sticking some glitter decals on her window, the female neighbour peered over the fence at her.

#17 ubermum

Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:06 PM

So she's never even spoken to them, but is running them down to the new resident. They sound like a lovely bunch. I would keep my distance from all of them.

#18 purpleblackqueen

Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (ubermum @ 06/01/2013, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So she's never even spoken to them, but is running them down to the new resident. They sound like a lovely bunch. I would keep my distance from all of them.



She is not the only one saying this, and the other people have spoken to them.

#19 unicorn

Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:47 PM

How about a nice piece of lattice with some honey suckle growing along it along the fence line?

#20 Coffeegirl

Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE (unicorn @ 06/01/2013, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How about a nice piece of lattice with some honey suckle growing along it along the fence line?


^^. This.  Or some nice potted fast growing bamboo on your side of the fence, but blocking their view.  ph34r.gif

#21 allthiseffortpaidoff

Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:31 PM

Our old neighbours installed cameras the minute we moved in (place was vacant for a year).

DH cut the side off one of our large moving boxes and threaded it through the top of our side fence, where the camera was pointing in to...

The neighbours came over a few days later when they realised and said it wasn't pointed at us, it was for their security and piece of mind as they're shift workers and are away from their house for extended periods.  That it was a deterrent for potential criminals and not to 'spy' on us.

DH told them when they remove the camera, he'd remove the cardboard.  They didn't and neither did we.

#22 shelly1

Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

Lattice is your friend. Cheap from Bunnings, ready made and easy to attach with a staple gun. Check with your council but you are within your rights to use it

#23 PurpleWitch

Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:41 PM

How do you know they were reporting to the old owners?

Sounds like a very gossip filled street!!


#24 purpleblackqueen

Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (PurpleWitch @ 06/01/2013, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How do you know they were reporting to the old owners?

Sounds like a very gossip filled street!!



Because the owner is friends with someone in the street and it got back to me.....some like "Oh it is amazing what Liz has done inside the house isn't it", and "Liz has some really nice stuff"

Edited by purpleblackqueen, 06 January 2013 - 07:36 PM.


#25 Guest_LeChatNinjah_*

Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

If she's going around stabbing people in the back I don't think it's an overreaction to get the police involved.

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Nah - I'm fairly sure in most states it's illegal to have home cameras pointing into other people's property, so a quick call to the council could probably sort it out.






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