Jump to content

Alkaline for health - gimmick to sell magic water?
or something to it?


  • Please log in to reply
23 replies to this topic

#1 Excentrique Feral

Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:30 PM

I've seen a lot of articles that basically say the western diet is really acidic, which makes your body acidic, which leads to a lot of diseases from cancer to diabetes.

I did think it was just hype BUT I have developed stomach issues. I'm only mid 20's and I get shocking heartburn, I've had a possible ulcer, and I'm now on high dose acid blockers which don't always help. I have improved with removing milk from my diet but I'm still really sensitive to what I eat and it sucks!

Was complaining to mum about my aching legs the other day, evidently this is a symptom of too much acid.

So EB, should I overhaul my diet to one of bananas and avocado?

#2 erindiv

Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:34 PM

Can you link to any of said articles? I'd be interested to see them

IMO, anything that peddles something as a "cure-all" is generally a gimmick.

#3 FeralProudSwahili

Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:36 PM

Like anything, balance is the key. It makes sense to me that an excess of anything will cause problems. As for alkaline water- sounds gimmicky to me.

#4 Coffeegirl

Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

ACA says alkaline diets are a fad.  biggrin.gif   http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8588722

As to all those waters with added Vitamins and minerals etc.  they don't do anything for you at all.  

If it is something that has only just started bothering you and you've just started using acid blockers then tha leg achesmay be related to your meds.  Your should speak to you GP about it.

#5 Excentrique Feral

Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:46 PM

http://www.naturaltherapypages.com.au/arti...body_too_acidic

Achey legs is only an occasional thing and I've been like this for 6 months.

#6 =Magpie=

Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:53 PM

I personally don't buy into any of this sort of stuff.
That said, a friend of mine had a 21yo daughter who was diagnosed with end stage metastatic liver cancer and given 3-6 months to live. They completely over hauled their diets, got fully into the no sugar diet, alkaline water and other alternative therapies.
She recently passed away but it was more than 5 years after her initial diagnosis, so I do think it helped them.

#7 kay11

Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

Gimmick. I had ache-y legs and other issues (non-itchy hives, cold sensitivity etc) and ended up being diagnosed with an auto-inflammatory syndrome. Get other things checked out first by the specialists and GP.

#8 suline

Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

Umm where are they measuring the acidity/alaklinity in the body? The blood? -The pH range they mention (7 - 7.5) is wildly inaccurate, and at either end of that range you would be very sick and/or close to dead.

I think they are confused about the definition of alkalosis too:I
QUOTE
f our pH levels increase the body’s systems become compromised, causing inflammation and lowered immunity.
An increased pH IS Alkalosis, a decreased pH is Acidosis.




Crockofsh*te.

Edited by suline, 05 January 2013 - 11:12 PM.


#9 purplekitty

Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:14 PM

It's bollocks.

The body maintains a very tight acid/base homeostasis.
It is very difficult to disrupt that and if it happens you are very ill.

#10 kay11

Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:25 PM

I have chronic inflammation and it is actually the immune system turned ON, not suppressed. Inflammation is one of the first defence parts of the immune system.

I have to take a daily medication that suppresses my immune system to reduce the inflammation.

Causing inflammation and suppressing the immune system at the same time makes no sense.


#11 Cherubs

Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:56 PM

I have no idea about this water, but I have acid reflux, I have had surgery which helped a lot but have found slippery elm tablets work really well, perhaps it is a placebo effect, but I don't care as long as it works LOL, if it helps my mind tell my body to get the **** over itself it is all good.

#12 Phascogale

Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:27 AM

I had very achy legs (and hips).  Turned out I had a vitamin D deficiency and supplementation helped.

There is something to be said for a low sugar, low chemical diet and diet can make a big impact on peoples health.  But I'm not convinced with this kind of diet.  I'd probably be looking elsewhere.

#13 Sweet like a lemon

Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:29 AM

Fad. OP you need to see a dietitian. Dairy is pretty important especially for young women so unless you are lactose intolerant I would cut down rather than cut out. Processed carbs are horrible for people suffering heartburn so I would cut out all pastries, white bread, cakes and processed foods and increase the fresh vege, fruit and natural grains.

#14 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:15 AM

With the milk, its worth trying A2 or one of the similar types of milk. The different proteins in that milk make a difference to some people.

#15 Excentrique Feral

Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:23 AM

I know about the acid-base balance in the blood, its the gastrointestinal system I'm thinking of.

I've been to the doctors, had a gastroscopy. I have an atrophic duodenum and signs of irritation from reflux, but otherwise fine. Doctor is not worried and happy to just leave me on acid suppressants. She knows I have cut out milk and doesn't seem concerned. Been thinking of giving the A2 a try.

#16 SeaPrincess

Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:30 AM

QUOTE (purplekitty @ 05/01/2013, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's bollocks.

The body maintains a very tight acid/base homeostasis.
It is very difficult to disrupt that and if it happens you are very ill.

Exactly what I was going to stay.  Oh and "the body" includes the GI tract.  If you're not happy with your doctor's treatment, seek a second opinion and, as a pp suggested, maybe consult a reputable dietician.

#17 Stellajoy

Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:36 AM

Woo water!

#18 CountryFeral

Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:43 AM

If you want to drink alkaline water add a teaspoon of bicarb to it.

At least you'll get some bubbles?

#19 suline

Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:35 PM

QUOTE
know about the acid-base balance in the blood, its the gastrointestinal system I'm thinking of.


Okay, well the normal healthy GI system pH ranges from a pH of 1-2 in the stomach, and 6.5 in the small intestine,and it doesn't reach 7.5 until the terminal ileum. It still doesn't match the pH range they provided. You need an acidic stomach and most of your intestine to function.




#20 red_squirrel

Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:43 PM

Oh this is the funniest thing I've heard for a while. Alkaline water...bah hah hah.
It's probably being spruiked now to catch people on a new year health blitz.

#21 Katie_bella

Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

Oh my lody this is rubbish. (mind you i wouldn't take ACA as a reputable source of investigative journalism either!)

PP have given you the information to prove this is rubbish.

Why cut out dairy? If i wanted to "alkalise" my diet i would be cutting out foods with high acid content, think tomatoes, citrus etc.

Sore hips/thigh bones are often a sign of low calcium or vit D levels (the calcium leaches out of the large bones causing aching) which will be exacebated by not having dairy.

As a pp has said, alkalised water will be water with a small amount of bicarb soda in it....save yourself a few $$ and try it at home first if you still think it's worth it.

#22 Excentrique Feral

Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:59 PM

I have cut out dairy because I end up feeling sick, swollen and gasey afterwards for a full 24hrs. It sucks and I miss chocolate.

#23 purplekitty

Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:02 PM

QUOTE (Excentrique @ 05/01/2013, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've seen a lot of articles that basically say the western diet is really acidic, which makes your body acidic, which leads to a lot of diseases from cancer to diabetes.
The theory(crap) behind this is the systemic effects of an acidic diet.
It is well known quackery in regards to cancer.
Another cancer tragedy in the making

QUOTE (Excentrique @ 06/01/2013, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know about the acid-base balance in the blood, its the gastrointestinal system I'm thinking of.



#24 Mini_feral

Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:31 PM

QUOTE (purplekitty @ 06/01/2013, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The theory(crap) behind this is the systemic effects of an acidic diet.
It is well known quackery in regards to cancer.
Another cancer tragedy in the making


Wow, that is a very powerful and upsetting read. It makes me so angry.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Clever panda fakes pregnancy

News that a giant panda was pregnant prompted much excitement, but it appears there were never any cubs on the way.

'I survived placenta percreta'

When writing her birth plan, Simone Pavil included an item most women wouldn?t even think about: what should happen if she was put on life support. The mum had the potentially fatal condition placenta accreta.

Managing personal space as a mum

In the midst of the early parenting years, our bodies and minds can seemingly be overtaken by our offspring. How can we balance our need for personal space with the needs of our children?

'If love could have saved you, you'd have never left'

The words "spontaneous abortion" on the hospital paperwork really got to me. My baby died; I didn't spontaneously decide to abort him.

15 classic Aussie ads

Watch some of the classic Australian ads of the 80s, 90s and 00s, and remember the catchphrases and jingles we all used to know so well ...

For and against

Should Blue Ivy have been at the VMAs?

Many were quick to condemn Beyonce and Jay Z after appearing on stage at the MTV Video Music Awards with their two-year-old daughter, but others thought it was a sweet family moment. What do you think?

Toddler attacked at gym creche

Two-year-old girl Eva Ness was left with a black eye and bite marks on her face and body after an altercation with an older child at a health club's child-minding facilities. Now her parents are calling for the centre to be closed.

Pregnancy a tricky matter of timing for FIFO couples

Manipulating rosters, coordinating 'conjugal' visits, working on site with your partner; getting pregnant can prove stressful for FIFO workers.

WIN a $100 RedBalloon for Dad

Enter now for your chance to win 1 of 5 $100 RedBalloon experience vouchers. Helping you make Dad's Day EXTRA HAPPY.

Carseats have twice as many germs as a toilet

Most parents know their child's carseat is not always squeaky clean, but they might not realise just how dirty it really is.

Doctors remove foetus from 'medical marvel' after 36 years

Doctors in India have removed the skeleton of a foetus that had been inside a woman for 36 years.

Nine months in six seconds: new parents' Vine clip a hit

We?ve seen some memorable time-lapse pregnancy and birth announcement videos before. Now one new couple has taken it to the extreme, capturing it all in just a six-second Vine video.

Sonia Kruger speaks of baby joy

Celebrity mum-to-be Sonia Kruger has spoken candidly about using donor eggs and IVF to fall pregnant at age 48.

Dressing to not impress: life through the eyes of a three-year-old

When it comes to getting dressed, my three-year-old has only one criterion: ?I don?t want to look beautiful.? And now I've worked out why.

Special nappies made with love for angel babies

Angel Baby Nappies make and provide tiny bereavement cloth nappies for pre-term stillborn babies and premature babies who pass away in the NICU.

Inside the brain of a tantruming toddler

What's going on in your child's mind in the lead-up to a tantrum? And what?s the best way to respond?

5 secrets to a long-lasting relationship

When it comes to keeping your relationship strong, it?s what you do - and not what you want - that really matters.

When 'furbabies' meet real babies

I am obsessed with my dogs, and can't imagine loving them any less once my baby arrives. But that doesn't stop everyone from telling me I will.

The least popular baby names of 2013

Looking for a baby name that?s nowhere near the top 10 ? or even the top 1000? Try the bottom five.

'I was so sleep deprived I crashed my car'

There are no laws regulating driving while tired, but statistics show that driver fatigue is one of the top three contributors to the road toll.

Win back some precious time and get FREE coupons

Membership to eBay's Bubs? Corner is free and includes a $10 coupon to spend on nappies each month - a win for multitasking mums!

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

WIN a $100 RedBalloon for Dad

Enter now for your chance to win 1 of 5 $100 RedBalloon experience vouchers. Helping you make Dad's Day EXTRA HAPPY.

Win back some precious time and get FREE coupons

Membership to eBay's Bubs? Corner is free and includes a $10 coupon to spend on nappies each month - a win for multitasking mums!

Do you suffer from Precious Firstborn Syndrome?

Testing ?no more tears? shampoo in your own eyes, warming cucumber sticks so they're not cold straight from the fridge, waking a sleeping baby to check they?re still breathing: these are all symptoms of Precious Firstborn Syndrome.

Ezra's tragic death not in vain, mum says

Little Ezra was a "Harry Houdini" who loved trying to escape the family home. Now, after his tragic death, his parents are doing what they can to help others.

7 mistakes old hands make with new babies

As I sat across the table from my friend ? me, a seasoned mother of three; her, a brand new mum ? I thought of all the mistakes an old-hand parent can make when visiting a newborn baby.

Video: When adults act like children

Ever wondered what would happen if adults were allowed to act like children? This dad's hilarious video clip will give you an idea of what life would be like.

Mums hit hardest as flu cases skyrocket

The number of confirmed cases of influenza in Australia has doubled the number for the same time last year - and women are 25 per cent more likely to get it.

The mum who had four babies in nine months

Feeling exhausted due to the demands of caring for a baby? Imagine the life of this mum, who gave birth to three boys and one girl in just nine months.

Everything baby at Big W

Lowest prices on everything baby, only at Big W. Sale starts August 4 and ends August 20 2014.

Going viral

Outrage over baby's icy challenge

A man has been reported to child protective services after taking the ALS ice bucket challenge with his 10-month-old granddaughter.

Personalised baby gifts

We've scoured the internet to find gorgeous personalised keepsakes and nursery decor to record baby name and dates. They make great gifts for christenings, name days and birthdays! (All prices in AU.)

 

Mind, body, beauty, life

Making time for me

We look at your wellbeing, covering health, relationships, beauty and fashion, mind and body.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.