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#1 CFMummy

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:14 PM

My DD1 will be 5 in a few weeks and is starting school in feb. She has been having sleep issues for months now. Took her to the Dr today as it needs sorting before school starts. She has suggested Phenergan as an aid for 1-2 weeks to try and adjust her body clock.

Has anyone used it for this and did it work am open to other suggestions

#2 2 Gorgeous Girls

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:19 PM

I haven't used it as a sleep aid but when my DD takes it she can't physically stay awake.

It's not something I'd use, even as an antihistamine, without my Dr's advice (which you obviously have)

I have heard it can have the opposite effect on children and send them hyper though?

#3 amabanana

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:22 PM

I personally wouldn't use it for that long!  1-2 weeks seems excessive.
DD1 has awful trouble with sleeping (always has) and we've found using a relaxation guide on the iphone the best way to get her to sleep.  I would try natural remedies before resorting to Phenergan!

eta  If you have a compounding chemist nearby they can make up a natural sleep aid.  That was our next port of call (on advice from DD's psych) if the mindfulness meditation didn't help.

Other things that help are making sure that there is wind down time and relaxation before bed, dimming lights, blacking out the bedroom or using a sleep mask, having a regular rising time (even on weekends) and getting bright sun into her eyes on waking (helps reset the clock).  Some people say a drop of lavender on the pillow can help but that just makes me sneeze!  


Edited by amabanana, 02 January 2013 - 03:27 PM.


#4 IsolaBella

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

My kids on antihistamines don't get drowsy ( discovered hives all over DS1s body one night while getting ready for bed).

Yes I would trial it under Dr advice, but be aware some kids don't get drowsy.

As an adult I take antihistamines for a bit when I can't sleep.

#5 twinboys

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:25 PM

Have a chat to your pharmacist as there are several drowsy type of antihistamines that are very similar to Phenergan.

Are there any other issues with her health?

You can also get on prescription Melatonin which is a naturally occurring hormone which helps with sleep cycles.
it is expensive but it does work. You need to get it from a compounding pharmacy.

Other things can help like bedding some kids (especially ASD kids) respond really well to having weighted blankets, I know in summer it is tricky but a little bit of pressure on her may help her to stay asleep.


#6 Tigerdog

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:26 PM

I've only used it when needed for allergies etc, however my doctor recommended Painstop night-time formula (with antihistamine) for DS1 who is currently having night terrors (not that often but on the last occasion it was for 3 nights straight, none of us got any sleep for those nights so doctor suggested using it on he fourth night).  Also good for teething to stop pain and let everyone get some sleep!  The chemist was really reluctant to give Painstop to me over the counter though, so make sure you get a script for whatever you go with.

Edited by Tigerdog, 02 January 2013 - 03:27 PM.


#7 Alacritous~Andy

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:27 PM

Yes, I have with DS under the guidance of a paed after having been to sleep school etc.

I was VERY reluctant.

We used it for five nights. Worked brilliantly and saved my sanity.

#8 IsolaBella

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

Tigers of -painstop wold be combined antihistamine plus codeine probably making drowsy.



#9 EBeditor

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:35 PM

My dr recommended it for DD when she was having sleep problems, however it just made her hyperactive and she only slept for 4 hours before waking up again.

Worth a try though, IMO. (If used under doctor's orders).

#10 cinnabubble

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:35 PM

My older daughter used Painstop Nighttime on and off from the ages of two to five on doctor's advice for a condition not related to her sleep. She was a sh*t sleeper on drugs and a sh*t sleeper off drugs. She still woke at night (sometimes on multiple occasions) when using the Painstop.

#11 elizabethany

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:37 PM

I went to a sleep class for my own (younger) non-sleeper, and they said that phenergan only masks the problems, it doesn't fix them.  If the problem is an out-of-whack body clock, then bright sunlight before 11am is the best cure, so on sunny days take her to the park first thing after breakfast.  Otherwise, look at other triggers that may be waking her up or making it harder for her to go back to sleep, such as a lot of stimulation before bed or the heat.

That being said, phenergan will not harm her, so it is worth trying if your doctor recommends it.

#12 MooGuru

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:38 PM

First time using it do it on a day where there's nothing planned the next morning. I had it as a kid and went completely crazy with superhuman.strength (climbed a bookcase and tipped it over amongst other things). As an.adult it knocked me out for about 18hrs - neither ideal if you have to be somewhere at 8am smile1.gif
Saw friends child take it recently, she was running and laughing then suddenly faceplanted into the floor asleep - can't argue it doesn't work!

#13 ms flib

Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

I found that my kids slept better once they started school because it made them more tired. She might cope better than you think.

If the doc thinks a short course of phenergan will help then I'd try it. You may need to gradually stop it.

#14 mumto3princesses

Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:55 PM

We were told by our GP to try Phenergan for car sickness with all 3 girls years ago.

We weren't told it can have the complete opposite effect and didn't try it beforehand. So, off we went on our car trip and lets just say that trip was a complete nightmare!! 3 very hyper kids stuck in the back of a car together. Not fun at all!!

#15 Propaganda

Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:58 PM

You could always try it, but it's not a long-term solution.

I use it for myself when I have trouble sleeping, though of course i take an adult dose. For me, about 1hour after I take it, it makes it almost impossible to stay awake, and I'll only wake in the morning. It's not something to take unless you've got a full 12 hours worth of sleep time though, or else you feel very sleepy the next morning, and it's hard to properly wake up from. Waking in the middle of hte night (say, to urinate) also makes me feel drunk. I stumble and crash into walls and such.

It's pretty strong, and I only use it when I've gone a few days without much sleep and really need to make sure I get some shut-eye.

I've never used it on my child though.

#16 marley*and*me

Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:03 PM

We did that with DS as his getting to sleep was just awful for months.  Dr suggested phenergan and we only had to use it for 2 nights and we have never looked back.

Nothing would help him with his sleep.  He was the most wonderful sleeper up until 2.5 when we forced him out of his cot.  This was our biggest mistake and from then on it was horrible for about 12 months.  We were at our wits end and for some reason this worked.  We now have a little boy who at 6 is fantastic going to sleep.

#17 baddmammajamma

Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:08 PM

We would perish without melatonin. My daughter has been using it for 3+ years.

As others have mentioned, it's a natural substance. We get ours from a compounding chemist.

Personally, I would be hesitant to try phenergan, but I also appreciate that some situations are dire & conventional methods just don't work.

Good luck!

#18 Feral Madam Mim

Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:05 PM

Because your Dr has suggested it I would give it a go, but like the others have said that sort of thing doesn't make my lot drowsy at all (or myself for that matter), it didn't hype them up either though, so I wouldn't walk into it thinking it will solve all your problems.

#19 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:13 PM

We used it and it did re-set his sleep patterns and he began to sleep through.

I'm not quite sure what people mean by saying it only masks the problems and doesn't address the underlying issues.  OUr problem was that he did not sleep for longer than 20 minutes at a stretch and when given phernergan for a week he slept.  And the new sleep pattern sustained.

#20 ziggy72

Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:11 PM

I have used it for jetlag related sleep trouble in both my children. It is very effective at the right dose. Ask your GP to calculate the sedation dose based on weight, rather than the dosage on the box, as my understanding is that this is very conservative and too low a dose can result in hyperactivity.

When we gave it to DS1 he was a nightmare, called the GP and he adjusted the dose and then it worked wonders. We have only ever used it for short term use.

#21 MrsLexiK

Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

My mum used this on me for a variety of things (allergies but also lack of sleep from being up all night scratching and travel sickness) I use it now still for nausea (as prescribed by my GP for migrains and when I have had opps or are on high pain meds or an alternative to maxalon as I am allergic.) My MIL was telling me how she gave it to my DH once (she is a nurse and discussed with a few drs who told her to try it) well he was one of those kids that got high from it.

#22 No girls here

Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:26 PM

DS1 has always been a bad sleeper and Phenergan does nothing for him (DS2 is also unaffected)

#23 libbylu

Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:27 PM

A friend of mine used it for 2 weeks on her two year old under doctors advice.  He had a night waking issue where no matter what she did he would be awake (and happy) between 1am and 4am and she couldn't settle him.  He was massively sleep deprived during the days.  The phenergen broke the habbit and got him sleeping through.

#24 *-*

Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:57 PM

As it has been advised by your Doctor, of course I wont go against his/her advice.

I will however, share our "journey".

DD1 didn't sleep, couldn't/wouldn't sleep.  Most of her night was spent screaming as a baby.  A good night sleep was 4 hours, broken.  At just shy of 2 years down the track (and another baby who slept beautifully) - I learnt that her issues weren't "normal".  Went to the CHN, she suggested Phenergan.  Went to GP, he suggested/concurred with the CHN - Phenergan for 10 nights straight, with a high dose to start, then slowly wean.

It worked.  She slept.  For the first night, on the full dose only.  Her behaviour the next day was just deplorable. Seriously, the child was feral.

So, from there, sleep school.  She failed.

Her sleeping went from bad to worse.  DH and I were going nuts.  Starting school didn't help.  Tiring her our didn't help.

She couldn't get to sleep, when she finally did, she would suffer night terrors.  It was a vicious vicious cycle.  No one would listen.  None of us had enough sleep - and trust me when I say we had our share of troubles aside from her sleep issues.

We visited Paeds, Psychologists,  Psychiatrists, Counsellors... eventually a GP listened, and allowed me to try Melatonin (when I went and asked for it).

That night, for the first time EVER DD1 yawned.  She took herself off to bed at 8pm, and slept through till 7am.  The kid was 10 when she first slept through the night.  

We can't find the bottom of her issues - not yet anyway.  But generally speaking, continuing sleep issues need further investigation, and the correct treatment.  Phenergan may work, but it wont solve your issue, it will just hide it.  

If it is just merely "habit" - then it will likely solve the issue.  Most of the time sleep issues are beyond "habit" at that age.

Edited by *~Katrina~*, 07 January 2013 - 11:00 PM.


#25 NATPR

Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:07 PM

If doctor recommends.  Try it for 2 nights...thats probably enough to make a difference anyway.

We used it for an allergy issue and only needed it for 2 nights.  I gave half the suggested dose and it was really great for our child and us.  It didnt hype her up, but everyone is different so obviously you wont know until you try.

Doctors dont usually suggest it willy nilly so they must think its worth a go. Goodluck.




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