Jump to content

Dog training ...


  • Please log in to reply
5 replies to this topic

#1 ♥Rumpelstiltskin♥

Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:24 PM

OK so all the pet experts out their ....I'm looking at getting a Papillon puppy...original.gif

(1 ) I need some tips on toilet training a puppy...???

(2) Crate training....???


(3) Getting Puppy use to a collar and lead..????

and later on down the track tricks....original.gif


#2 Exhaustedbuthappy

Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:33 PM

me too - I'm bringing home a Mini Schnauzer puppy on Thursday.

I'm particularly worried about toilet training.

I've been to puppy.com.au and there's a short video, but would also appreciate others experience on the best way to toilet train.

The puppy will be an inside dog, with walks twice a day and taken out for toileting as often as possible.

thank you

#3 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:37 PM

The Crate Training thread is stickied to the top of the forum - very useful stuff.

Toilet training can be a hit and miss, but there are some tips within the crate training thread itself.

Basically, its like having a baby/toddler/young child. When their bladder and bowels are mature enough, they can hang on longer, and there are no accidents. In the mean time, take puppy outdoors for about 10-15 minutes after every meal and drink, and praise, praise, praise, when they go to the toilet. Use a spot that you want them to use all of the time, and you end up with a neat and tidy dog (eventually). With the mistakes, ignore the mistake itself, and hustle puppy straight to the designated pee spot, and praise the puppy there. No yelling or bad words, as puppy doesn't know its wrong, and even if it did, it can't help it. Finally, clean up any mistakes with an enzyme based cleaner - BioZet, Napisan, even vinegar will break down proteins so the scent marker is removed (and there is no 'go here' message left behind).

I'd also be keeping them to easily cleaned surfaces while very young.

Puppy school for the lead business, and simply pop on a very light collar when you get the puppy home. Check it regularly, because puppies grow and you dont' want it becoming too tight.

#4 SpaghettiMonster

Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:59 PM

Hi,
1) Toilet training. It's hard! But stick with it for a few weeks. The way we did it with our Lab was in stages. When he was really young we initially put newspaper in the corner of the room and made him go there. The first time we put fresh paper down we put some of his pee on it and showed him the paper, patting him, making him smell it by putting his nose up close. If we caught him peeing somewhere other than the newspaper then we placed him immediately on his paper. He eventually got the message, especially once we started giving him a doggy liver treat as soon as he did the right thing. And lots of verbal praise in addition to the treat.

This was done in conjunction with taking him outside every hour and saying in a high pitched voice, 'pee pee' (you can insert whatever command you like). When he did his business outside - more liver treats!
Once he got the hang of going outside, we started moving the newspaper closer to the door leading to outside until eventually we placed it in the backyard and he got the message that going inside was no longer an option. He tried peeing again inside and got in big trouble. After that we never looked back original.gif
Obviously he was only inside while we were home and able to let him out regularly.

Great thing was our second dog we got 3 months after the first was really quick to pickup on the house training rules and she never once peed in the house. Was such a breezey puppy the second one because she was clever enough to copy the first dog.

2) Crate training? Not sure about that, never did it sorry.

3) Getting pup to use collar and lead. Best to go to puppy school as they are great at training (it's secretly more about training the human than the dog). The teacher I had was great, and taught me to 'think like a wolf' and see things from the dogs' perspective.
First put the lead on them when they are outside and don't hold it, just let them walk around dragging it here and there for a while everyday in the backyard. This will get them accustomed to having it attached to them.
Second, go for a SHORT walk everyday and make sure you stuff your pockets full of liver treats. Walk a few steps and whenever pup does the right thing over the course of those few steps, reward immediately with a liver treat. Offering praise at the same time is also good, but you can never just motivate with praise alone.
QUICK NOTE: The dog needs to have a treat as well. It's like motivating humans to go to work every day - we don't rock up at work for no money, and it's not like getting our boss's praise alone would keep us returning to the office. So, following that logic, it's probably best to give your dog lots of treats for good behaviour, and be really consistent. I can only speak for what worked with my two dogs.

If the dog pulls, stop walking immediately and say 'AH!!' with a kind of grunt in your voice, firmly and assertively (loud, but not so much that passers by think your'e nuts!). This is what our dog trainer taught us to say, and it was so effective.You will find yourself stopping and starting about 20 times over the course of 20 metres in the first couple of weeks, but this is the way to train. After a week or two, it will become easier.
With that 'AH!!' sound, the dog will understand not to pull, especially if they simultaneously get the message that they'll instead get a treat for walking at your side. Teach them the command, 'HEEL', which means walking pleasantly at your side without pulling. Remember, dogs respond largely to voice and tone as you no doubt know, so be sure to get your assertive tone going on.

It takes a lot of consistency, so really it's like dealing with a small child in that sense. The dog needs to know that if they do 'X' then 'Y' will always happen without fail. So if it HEELS correctly without pulling, it will always get a liver treat. Similarly, if the dog pulls then it will always hear you get stroppy and say 'AH!', coupled with you stopping their walk to stand still.

It is a lot of work but worth it as it's definitely worth having a pet rather than a pest.

I learned these techniques from attending puppy class every weekend 10 years ago. My dogs eventually learned to heel by my side without any lead at all. They now are both 10 years and have been stopping at the road kerb to cross the road, no lead, since they were about 6 months old. These days I put them on a lead just to placate the neighbours because we've moved interstate and the dog laws are more stringent here, plus the neighbours don't like big dogs, which is fair enough.

Nuff about me! Best of luck and lots of perseverence to you original.gif Enjoy your Papillion pup! Oh and in case you haven't had a chance to yet, you may want to research papillion pups to see what sort of learning style, temperament etc they have as some dogs resist training while others are more conducive to it. My DD has a book about dogs that outlines all the breeds and it was surprising how some don't 'do' training while others respond to it really well.
P.S. I have a labrador and a staffy cross.

#5 cira

Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

Lots of great puppy tips here:
http://www.dogstardaily.com/taxonomy/term/182


#6 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:14 PM

I used to recommend the puppy pad + move it closer to the door method.

But stopped doing it when some dogs identified any 'paper' left on the floor as a puppy pad, and therefore fair game.  wink.gif




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Special Ticket Offer, Save $8!

The Essential Baby & Toddler Show is back this April! Save $8 off the door price for a limited time only!

Finding baby name inspiration in unusual places

Sometimes the greatest baby name ideas come from the most unexpected places, as these EB members show.

The case for inducing at 37 weeks

While we often think of pregnancy as a 40 week affair, experts agree that 37 weeks is actually “full term". So is there an argument for inducing all births at 37 weeks?

Does controlled crying really work?

Controlled-crying techniques may help some babies sleep through the night, but for many exhausted new parents, it's just a recipe for more tears all round.

How I taught my infant to use a toilet

As people become more aware of these benefits, I hope more parents will practice this method, so we can cut down on nappies and improve baby bonding.

'I thought it was impossible': Emily Symons pregnant at 45

Aussie actress Emily Symons has announced she is pregnant with her first baby.

Shallow water blackout kills fit, healthy dad

A little girl will grow up without her father after the fit and healthy 34-year-old passed away while doing something he had practised his whole life.

Afternoon naps may be bad for toddlers' sleep

You could be doing yourself a disservice by encouraging your toddler to have an afternoon nap, according to new research.

Best gifts for newborns, new mums and christenings

We've compiled a guide to some of the most popular presents for newborns and new mums, and for christenings and naming days.

Jaime King to be a mum again

Actress Jaime King is pregnant with her second child, giving 16-month-old James a sibling.

Nannies should receive government funding

The Abbott government should extend funding to nannies, and direct childcare payments to low and middle income families, a landmark study on childcare has found. 

Common skin irritations in newborns (and how to treat them)

As many as one in two newborn babies suffer from skin irritations in their first few weeks. So what are the most common rashes and irritations to look out for?

10 wall decals for the nursery or playroom

Wall decals are the answer to creating a beautiful nursery or children's space without lifting a paint brush, a spirit level or even a hammer.

Preschooler walks 2.4km home alone

Three-year-old Cain Trainor headed off home after his first day at a new preschool without telling anyone.

Video: Why mums get nothing done

In spite of being in an almost constant state of motion while looking after the kids and trying to keep things together at home, it can seem as though parents have managed to get nothing on the to-do list done by the end of the day.

The middle name game

The middle name is no longer an afterthought, and parents' inspiration comes from many places.

Have a baby or your money back - but there's a catch

A new IVF scheme offers couples the chance to fall pregnant and give birth - or get their money back. But there's more to it than you might think.

A rare glimpse inside the womb

A baby born still inside the amniotic sac gave US doctors a rare glimpse at life inside the womb.

Battered mum forced to write to her attacker ex in jail

Three years ago Jason Hughes viciously attacked his ex-partner. Now she has to write to him three times a year.

Woman pleads not guilty to ultrasound scam

A West Australian woman will fight allegations that she scammed expectant mums by selling them fake ultrasound pictures of babies.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Brain damaged mum receives compensation

A Sydney mother who suffered brain damage when she was hit by a car while pushing her newborn baby in a pram has reached a confidential out-of-court settlement with the driver's insurance company.

Indigenous midwives break down the barriers

A culturally sensitive midwifery service has gained the trust and respect of Aboriginal women.

The Katering Show's next big delivery

Most mums-to-be plan to take things easy and perhaps have a little break from work as the birth of their baby draws near. Not Kate McCartney.

53 creative pregnancy announcements

Announcing that you're expecting can be a time to express your creativity, sense of humour and imagination. Check out how other parents and parents-to-be have broken the news to friends and family.

Why I have mixed feelings about Cindy Crawford's leaked photo

Last week an un-retouched photo of model Cindy Crawford surfaced, showing the 48-year-old mother-of -two posing in underwear.

How to create a Peppa Pig pancake

Thought your toddler could not love pancakes any more than they already do? How about if the breakfast treat came in the shape of every two-year-old's favourite cartoon character?

'It's a little life, not a little loss': pregnancy after miscarriage

I thought I was never going to be able to have a successful pregnancy. I decided that I wasn't going to form an emotional attachment with this baby.

Bonds Baby Search 2015: what you need to know

February 18 marks the start of one of the most prolific annual baby competitions in Australia: the Bonds Baby Search. And this year is going to be more special than ever.

Who will manage your Facebook account when you're gone?

This is not something that people like to talk about, but Facebook has announced that it will grant users more control over what happens to their pages after they die.

Struggling mum of four wins $188 million

Mother of four Marie Holmes was financially struggling after quitting her jobs at Walmart and McDonald's in order to care for her children.

Pregnant obese women a 'relatively new problem', coroner hears

A first-time mother whose daughter died hours after her frightening birth insists she was never told of the risks of being obese and pregnant.

'I'm angry as hell': the story behind mum's passionate vaccination plea

She has labelled parents who do not vaccinate their children "misinformed imbeciles" - and for that, she makes no apologies.

IKEA hacks for the nursery and kids' rooms

Are you one of those that know the whole IKEA catalogue by heart? Love their stuff but want to personalise it? Here's some inspiration to help you realise the potential of IKEA furniture and fittings.

8 different kinds of tantrums

I never thought I’d say this, but for a brief moment last week, Kim Kardashian and I had something in common: both our kids had public tantrums.

Polycystic ovary syndrome: symptoms, treatment and your fertility

Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) is the most common female hormonal condition, affecting roughly one in 12 Australian women.

What's the best position for giving birth?

If doing it on your back is out, what's the best position for labour and birth?

Wife forgives snake catcher husband for car surprise

With Valentine's Day coming up, Nat Gilbert could be forgiven for thinking her husband might be planning a surprise for her.

Kids who meet milestones at their own pace

We usually only hear the success stories: tales of the two-year-old who’s talking, running and completely toilet trained. But other stories need to be told too.

Ruby shines as Bonds Baby

Sarah Kiss has a word of advice for proud mums and dads who are keen to enter their babies in this year's Bonds Baby Search Competition - just have fun.

Why dads should go to sleep school

If your family needs to go to sleep school, go with them. You are part of that family and you are part of the solution.

36 baby names inspired by food and drinks

A French court may have ruled out Nutella as a baby name, but that doesn't have to stop you from taking inspiration from the supermarket (or bottle shop). See what parents in the US have chosen for their delicious little ones.

Clever breastfeeding products

Check out this range of products designed to help make your breastfeeding journey more enjoyable, manageable and convenient.

 

Win a KitchenAid Mixer

Let's celebrate 300,000 fans on Facebook

To celebrate, and to thank our amazing fans, we?re giving away a KitchenAid Artisan Tilt-Head Stand Mixer.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.