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#1 StarKingdom

Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:09 PM

I would like to buy a second camera.  I've been reading reviews, watching you tube videos but I can't commit to buying...

I love and use a Canon 7D, mostly with the 24-70mm 2.8L and I also have the 50mm 1.4.  I take mainly people photos and DOF is important to me.  I shoot primarily aperture priority and extensively use exposure compensation (mostly +1/3 for nearly all shots, or higher if required due to backlighting etc).  I always lock focus and will often shoot 3 or 4 frames in quick succession.  100% RAW and processed in Lightroom.

It is the only camera I have other than my iphone (which I don't like using as a camera), but it breaks my back if I go out with the kids for a whole day and carry it around - this is why I would like another camera.

I can't decide.  I was going to go the Canon G15, but I can't bring myself to do it (even though Kogan have it for a very affordable $408 inc postage...).  I just think I won't be satisfied with the images next to the 7D.

I didn't want to have another lens system, but now I'm starting to think that a micro four-thirds might be a better option (I would probably only get 1 or 2 fast lenses).  Initially I was wanting the Canon G1X, but the reviews are not that great and the lens is not that fast when zoomed in.

Has anyone else gone through this process????  

What did you get?  Are you happy with it?  Pros and Cons?

Thanks  original.gif

Edited by StarKingdom, 31 December 2012 - 08:46 PM.


#2 CupOfCoffee

Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

I just got a Sony NEX5r, which is small and really lovely.

I haven't had it long enough to have pros and cons, but my husband (a camera nut and camera salesperson) goes on about it endlessly.

It has changeable lenses (but is a compact SLR).

#3 FiveAus

Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:33 PM

I've got a Panasonic GX1, it's gorgeous. I have 3 lenses for it and an EVF and the total weight is micro compared to my Canon 40D and 3 comparable lenses.

I also have the Pana LX3, which is my pocket cam. It's not suitable for a lot of things but it's wide and fast which I love. And the newer models are even better.

#4 FiveAus

Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:39 PM

The Pana GX1 with this lens:

http://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic...anasonic_25_1p4


and this lens:

http://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic...anasonic_45_2p8

would give you a nice light kit for people pics. The focal length is equivalent to 50mm and 90mm. I have the 25mm lens and it's brilliant, and I dare say as good as my Canon 50mm f1.4.

#5 FiveAus

Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:46 PM

OK, I keep going back and reading your first post, so I'll keep adding posts til I've answered everything.

Pros to the M34 system.....size and weight. it's very small and very light and until you hold one, then hold a regular size DSLR, you won't appreciate just how small and light.
Quality of the camera body and lenses are excellent. The lenses are Leica glass and you can tell, they are beautiful.

Photo quality is very, very good, but if you're a pixel peeper, it's not great. Noise is minimal up to about ISO800, but it's bearable at higher ISO's.

Cons....if you're used to using exterior button and dials and can do it on the fly, you'll be slowed down for a while until you learn the menus. Most of the important stuff is on the outside but some is in menus but they are customisable. It will take you a while to get used to it though.
My biggest con is that it's not really suitable for moving subjects....it's simply not fast enough but I knew that before I bought it, so it may or may not be a deal breaker for you. I use mine for dog portraits and if I want to photograph moving dogs I use the Canon.



#6 StarKingdom

Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:41 PM

Thank you for the replies so far. FiveAus that info was really helpful. I've done a bit or reading and I think I'm almost sold on the GX1. Kogan has it for $499 with a super zoom lens which looks like a good deal.  I can't believe how expensive the viewfinder is in comparison.

Are you able to explain why some comments I've come across on the internet mention Panasonic lenses and Olympus lenses for this camera?

Thanks.

ETA - it was also good to see that this camera raw files are compatible with Lightroom 3. Lightroom 3 or even 4 doesn't even support the raw from the Canon G15 which might have been one of the main drawbacks for me.

Edited by StarKingdom, 31 December 2012 - 11:44 PM.


#7 FiveAus

Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

Panasonic and Olympus share the same mount, so the lenses for their M43 cameras are interchangeable.

I have got THIS zoom lens, and I'm really happy with it. And I am one that is extremely fussy about lenses.
I've also got THIS lens, which I got with the camera. It's TINY and makes for a very small carry-around package.



#8 FiveAus

Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:38 AM

I use Adobe Photoshop Elements for converting RAW files, I had version 9 which didn't support the GX1, so I was using SilkyPix which came with the camera (and is actually very good), but have now got v.11 and both my cameras are supported by it, so I'm happy now.

#9 mummy26

Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:56 AM

I have an Olympus E-P3 and I've been really happy with it

#10 mondayschild

Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:05 PM

take a look at the Sony RX100. You can get it online for between 550 and 600 odd dollars. I've put in my wish for one for my birthday for exactly the reason you want one, dslr quality photos from a camera I can put in my pocket. Google it and look for some reviews by professional photographers.

#11 StarKingdom

Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:55 PM

Thanks Ali. I know you're happy with yours. The filters look interesting.

Mondayschild - yes I looked at the Sony, but I thought the faster lens of the canon G15 was a greater advantage than the larger sensor of the Sony (to have more control of the DOF). Regardless, the raw is not supported by LR3 and the upgrade on my computer from LR2 to LR3 makes my computer struggle a bit, and I'm not wanting to upgrade my computer or LR, so I've not really considered that one again.  Thanks for the suggestion though.

Edited by StarKingdom, 01 January 2013 - 04:55 PM.


#12 FiveAus

Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:09 PM

I was trying to add some pics taken with the Panasonic GX1 so you could see some samples but the new Photobucket site is a bit iffy (as in it hardly ever works), so I've put some into a gallery so you can see.

I tried to get a bit of a variety in there and left the EXIF data intact so you can see the focal length and the ISO.

Click HERE.

Edited by FiveAus, 02 January 2013 - 08:09 PM.


#13 StarKingdom

Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

Thanks for taking the time to do that.  I ordered the Panasonic GX1 today through Kogan (with the super zoom lens).  I will also get the Olympus 45mm 1.8 lens which currently has the 20% cash back through Olympus.  The first couple of shots in your gallery are making me consider the long zoom lens!  The longest I've got with the 7D is 70mm, so it would be nice to have one long lens.

Can I ask what speed memory card you use?  Would the 30mb/s or I think 45mb/s be fast enough for recording RAW, or should I get the 95mb/s?

Thanks again  original.gif

#14 FiveAus

Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:10 PM

The cards I use are 30mb/s, they are a tad slow so I'd be inclined to get faster ones.

I really like the long zoom, I'm not a fan of zoom lenses usually and on my 40D, I use a Canon 200mm f2.8 L and work around the fact that it's one length by being creative with framing.
But the Panasonic zoom is really nice and I've been more than happy with the quality of the pics. I get a nice background blur once I get over 100mm, so it's nice for portraits.

#15 FiveAus

Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:16 PM

Oh, one more bit of info you might find interesting.

The camera has a touch screen. I knew that before I bought it, but didn't think anything of it......lets face it, everything has a touch screen these days. But once I remembered to turn it on, it's FANTASTIC for taking photos and getting the focus exactly where you want it. The pics of the black tri dogs in the 3rd row were taken using the touch screen. Basically, you touch the screen where you want it to focus and it takes the photo.




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