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#1 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:58 PM

With DS I had done hypnobirthing was booked in to the Birth Centre and was planning to have an active, drug free, water birth.

Then at my 40th week appointment things all turned to sh*t, DS wasn't doing well and I had high blood pressure and had to be induced. The induction itself was pretty good, but I couldn't have the active, water birth I had wanted. I did have an epidural. DS was posterior. I didn't end up having any support from the midwife or DH (he was sick during my labour), and didn't find I was able to utilize the hypnobirthing. I wonder if I had more support would I have refused the epidural.

I had previously been against a hospital birth and the epidural because I was worried about having a needle in my spine and because I had never been to hospital before (except when i was born).

The good thing was, that because I was booked into the birth centre, I was able to go back there after the labour.

So this time around I am booked into the birth centre again. But realistically don't know if I should bother. I doubt I'm going to have support again this time and even though I wanted to hire a doula I don't think I'll be able to afford it.

Labour last time with the epidural was fine, so I wonder if I should even bother attempting a natural birth this time as all my concerns about hospital and epidural were unfounded.

So just wondering what others might do in the same situation?

#2 back*again

Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:06 PM

For me personally, I'd go birth centre.....the nearest hospital is soooooo badly under staffed I don't feel 'safe' there.  After my son was born I was left alone (still covered in blood) on the delivery table for an hour.  My son started to get cold so I had to get up and get myself sorted.  I must have lost a lot of blood because I felt incredibly dizzy so I quickly put my son down and got myself cleaned up.  After I did all this, made sure my son was warm and had a shower the midwife finally returned and took my blood pressure (I was no longer dizzy), and told me it was really low and I should be sitting down.  Thank goodness I didn't collapse or hurt my son!

For my next baby I chose the birth centre.  The midwives were not helpful throughout the labour.  I got just as much an active birth as I have had previously in hospitals.  But, I had a midwife, just for me.  I knew someone was there to monitor me, and they could get me to more help on time if needed.

#3 Soontobegran

Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:18 PM

There is every chance that this pregnancy and labour will be completely different to your first so I would definitely stick to the Birth Centre plans.
My first sounds similar to yours with all the bells and whistles but the next was as straightforward as could be.

What a shame I am on the other side of the country, I'd be your 'doula/pm' at the drop of a hat. original.gif


#4 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

QUOTE (soontobegran @ 30/12/2012, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is every chance that this pregnancy and labour will be completely different to your first so I would definitely stick to the Birth Centre plans.
My first sounds similar to yours with all the bells and whistles but the next was as straightforward as could be.

What a shame I am on the other side of the country, I'd be your 'doula/pm' at the drop of a hat. original.gif


Awwwww thanks STBG original.gif if I win lotto in the next 7 months, I'm totally flying you over!

#5 mum201

Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:34 PM

Could be completely different this time, you could have a fast and easy labour this time with no complications. Chances of having a sick DH both times is pretty low, so you should have some support this time.

I would give a natural birth in the birth centre a go if that's what you want, and if it doesn't work they can always transfer you.

#6 Soontobegran

Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:34 PM

QUOTE (Sunnycat @ 30/12/2012, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Awwwww thanks STBG original.gif if I win lotto in the next 7 months, I'm totally flying you over!


And me likewise, in fact I'll bring the entire east coast with me  original.gif

#7 Bunsen the feral

Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:37 PM

I've had 2 water births in the labour ward so being there doesn't mean you will have to go down the intervention route if it's not medically necessary - obviously facilities and policy varies between hospitals so do your research.

I debated going to the birth centre second time around but decided to stick with what I knew, largely because the unknown would make me more anxious and I saw no need to change when I had a positive experience the first time.

With the birth centre option do you see the same midwives before the birth or is prenatal care handled by a different team?



#8 skae

Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:50 PM

Sunnycat, have you considered a student midwife? You can get to know them (and they you) throughout the pregnancy, and they will be there to support you throughout your labour and birth. Plus, they don't cost wink.gif

#9 Meelamay

Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:54 PM

Your experience sounds like what I had with my son.  Its likely you were 'encouraged' to have the epidural as it dilates the blood vessels and helps reduce blood pressure - or at least that is what I was told at the time!

My daughter was completely different - no induction, no drugs, no time for any of that and in the birth suite of our local hospital.  I'd only encourage you not to have a set plan of what you want to happen, go with it.

#10 Eirinn

Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:00 PM

A doula is only around $850, and you could pay her with your baby bonus - if a natural birth is important to you, it's a very reasonable price!

#11 EsmeLennox

Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:19 PM

I would just play it by ear, what happens, happens. I agree with STBG that your 2nd birth may be entirely different. I know all of mine were. Like you, I had a pretty full on intervention-filled posterior first birth (although not induced), my second was a quick 3 hour 'text book' natural delivery, my 3rd a 4 hour posterior birth, with contractions that never got closer than 5 mins apart. Chalk and cheese all three. I would prepare for what you would prefer, but keep an open mind.

Good luck.

Edited by Jemstar, 30 December 2012 - 03:19 PM.


#12 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE (Bunsen @ 30/12/2012, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With the birth centre option do you see the same midwives before the birth or is prenatal care handled by a different team?


With the BC you're assigned to a team so see the same midwives, I'm not sure what happens at the hospital. Last time because I was transferred out at the last minute, I had no familiar faces or continuity of care, but I'm not sure if they assign teams to the hospital anyway (if any of that makes sense?).

QUOTE (skae @ 30/12/2012, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sunnycat, have you considered a student midwife? You can get to know them (and they you) throughout the pregnancy, and they will be there to support you throughout your labour and birth. Plus, they don't cost wink.gif


It's something I'm looking into now original.gif


QUOTE (Eirinn @ 30/12/2012, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A doula is only around $850, and you could pay her with your baby bonus - if a natural birth is important to you, it's a very reasonable price!


I just don't have $850 unfortunately.

QUOTE (Madame Catty @ 30/12/2012, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Definitely keep your place at the birth centre.  You can always change your mind.  If it's the hospital I'm thinking of, the Birth Centre is a much nicer place to stay if nothing else.


Yeah that was the benefit of being booked into the BC, because I could go back there after the birth, whereas I think the hospital is pretty sh*tty and old (at least the room I gave birth in was!)

#13 DreamFeralisations

Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:37 PM

I never had a birth centre - or indeed a water-birth - option, so can't comment on that.

However - with my first, I wanted no intervention unless necessary, had a posterior position baby that turned only after an epidural and I say that should you ever need a drug to take the pain of a posterior labour out of the picture, that one is the one.

That being said - second I was induced as I was 2 weeks over and was able to give birth with no pain relief required - it is a whole different scenario without the back labour.

Good luck.

#14 Princess.cranky.pants

Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:00 PM

It's great you were able to go to the birth center again. In Brisbane it's so hard to get into the birth center. You basically have to have a completely problem free pregnancy and birth.

I went though the birth center with my first baby but I ended up having a C/S after labor. So that meant I couldn't go back there again. sad.gif We were not even aloud to recover at the birth center. Being on the ward was horrible so you were very lucky to get to recover from your C/S in the birth center. There is no way that would happen here.

Stick with the birth center. You are lucky to get back in there again and they hopefully will be more supportive of a VBAC than maybe the hospital might be. Good luck

#15 Feral_Pooks

Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:34 PM

SunnyCat I reckon give it a go, then like you say if it doesn't work out you know you'll be ok too.

I think the idea of a student midwife or doula is a fantastic one!

#16 Loz07

Posted 31 December 2012 - 10:19 AM

Hi SunnyCat, your experience sounds very similar to mine - booked into birth centre hoping for active, drug free waterbirth until BP went up and I had to be induced and transferred to normal labour ward. I too ended up having an epidural as I was exhausted and not coping very well.

Next time I would hope to go birth centre again - coz even tho I am fine with how my labour went, a small part of me is disappointed that I didn't at least get to try the labour/birth experience I was hoping for. But I would also know that if I couldn't have that, then the normal, epidural experience is fine too. You should hopefully also find that the midwives in the birth centre are more supportive (or maybe you just lucked out with your middie the first time...) and hopefully DH isn't sick again.

I would also agree with a student midwife - I had one and she was fantastic. In fact, I found her to be very reassuring right at the business end, even though it was her first birth! (she is a nurse already tho, so has some 'experience' so to speak). Maybe it was because she couldn't 'do' much (esp as she was a 1st yr) and she maybe wasn't quite as overwhelmed as DH (who was great btw) so she was very focused on me... If you are in SA I would even recommend her...

May be worth checking what the birth centre policy is on transferring out mid labour - in the event you go that way and halfway thru decide you just need that epidural...

Good luck original.gif

#17 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:04 PM

Thanks everyone original.gif I think I will stay at the Birth Centre, pending things not turning into a dogs breakfast.

I will also seek out a student midwife for support.

I really like the idea of the Birth Centre because I get to have a bath and DS can be there as well.

However, if I was going to go down the epidural route I wouldn't want anyone there at all.

#18 Minxybug

Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:58 PM

Still have a look around at doulas, where are you located as I do know of doulas in perth and some that will do low cost or free to some families. They can be very reasonable, talk to some about your situation and you will be surprised by what you find out.


#19 wallofdodo

Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:03 PM

another on saying, stay at birth centre.

my first birth was horrendous long, painful, forceps... 'nuff said. My second birth was amazing, 6 hrs, mostly done at home, he was out 1.5 hours after I arrived at hospital. Just a few puffs of gas. ... well ok mighty large sucks of gas.

Your next birth may not be the same as the first.

Good luck Sunnycat.

Edited by wallofdodo, 01 January 2013 - 08:03 PM.


#20 Honey Pot

Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:31 PM

My first was induced and I ended up getting an epidural because I felt like the contractions were going to literally rip me in two. My second I never realised I was in established labour because it didnt hurt enough. I went to the hospital was 6cms, jumped in the bath and had a baby a few hours later. I was open to the idea of another epidural but never had a moment where I thought it was hurting enough for pain relief. Second labours can be very different so I'd stick to the BC if I were you.

#21 L&E

Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:45 PM

My first birth was a planned birth centre birth, active natural yada yada. Baby had other ideas and after 38 hours, mecconium, transfer to suite, gas and epidural he was born with vacuum extraction.

Second birth I rolled the dice again and had a 6 hour total, 3 hour hospital labour ending in a water birth.

Different labours and bubs can mean a total different ball park. After achieving what I hoped with the second birth I would truly recommend you give it another crack, because it was FECKING AWESOME!!

#22 lozoodle

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:15 AM

Yep I'd bother, stick with the birth centre. You never know what will happen this time around original.gif



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