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Anyone had multiple chemicals and gone on to get a sticky?

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#1 *molly*

Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:21 PM

Well DH and I have been TTC for 2 cycles and I've had 2 chemical pregnancies sad.gif

Has anyone had multiple chemicals and gone on to have a successful pregnancy? I could really use some positive stories right now.

#2 seepi

Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:39 PM

I had two chemical pregnancies (with a few months in between I ';m pretty sure - it is hard to remember now). then I went on to have a baby. then 2 more.

#3 *molly*

Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:38 PM

Thanks seepi original.gif It gives me hope to hear that you went on to have your children after having chemicals.

#4 *molly*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:58 PM

Anyone else?

#5 reesan

Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:13 PM

QUOTE (*molly* @ 30/12/2012, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone else?

Well I haven't, but it took me six months to conceive and takes lots of people lots longer, so at this stage I think it's really good to focus on the positives, you are so fertile, and you're getting onto it early - if the pattern continues then your GP will be able to refer you to further investigation rather than waiting ages and ages.

But it is very encouraging to know your partner's sperm is swimming and you are ovulating! I understand it's also frustrating and scary, but there is definitely lots that is great to focus on right now.

#6 *molly*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:14 PM

Thanks reesan. I'm sure you're right, I'm just a terrible worrier. I keep thinking, WTF is wrong with me, that I clearly can't stay pregnant  unsure.gif

PS congrats on your twin pregnancy!

#7 TillyTake2

Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:20 PM

I had a chemical pregnancy last month & then got pregnant this month (not looking like it will head towards miscarriage).

One thing I found out from reading is that chemical pregnancies are probably much more common than we realize because now people test so early where as before they would have waited for a missed period/few days after a late period.

I know two people in my mothers group who had 2 chemicals & then a healthy pregnancy as well as others who had multiple later miscarriages & then a healthy pregnancy.

How early were your chemicals? Are you taking pregnancy vitamins (I think b vitamins are important).

The fact you can get pregnant easily is a great sign!

#8 bubzillaiscoming

Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:28 PM

I'm not really sure what a chemical pregnancy is, but I got married in the Feb (2010) and was convinced I would have a honeymoon baby ... but it was not to be! I was soooo disappointed. I also had a very irregular cycle (up to 60 days) and so had no idea of what was going on, but after going to the Dr to talk about Clomid and other assistance she said she would give me a blood test "just to make sure I wasn't pg" and I was ....! I didn't find out until the end of June that I was 7 weeks ... original.gif

Since then I have had 2 lovely babies (don't ask me how #2 happened, I assumed since DS took at least 4 months, then we weren't at risk of falling again so soon ... turns out we were!!)

So good  luck with everything and I hope you have some exciting news to celebrate in 2013!

#9 *molly*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:52 PM

Thanks tilly and bubzilla, you ladies are very encouraging original.gif

Tilly, my period started at 16dpo both times. My usual luteal phase is 12 days, so my period was 3 days late. It really freaked me out that both chemicals got to exactly the same dpo.

I've been on pre-preg vitamins for a year now, plus extra fish oil, B complex, B6 and evening primrose oil (before O). I've got an appointment to see my GP, although I don't think he'll want to refer me yet - I just want the chemicals recorded for the future, in case it keeps happening.

#10 Daisy Goat

Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:10 PM

I have to ask.
Do you really know if you had a chemical pregnancy? Did you have the pregnancy confirmed?  16 day Luteal phase versus 13?  I don't actually believe aGP will record  a 3 day late period as a Chemical pregnancy without medical confirmation.
3 days difference. How do you know exactly when you ovulated. Considering an ovulation window can be 36 hrs. That's 36 hrs out of the 72 hrs you were late.

To me you are reading too much into believing that every period has a perfect timetable and if it doesn't adhere to it then you must have been pregnant.
You will mess your cycle up even more with stress if you are insisting on this sort of precision.
And truthfully I find it all a bit insulting to those who actually get confirmed pregnancies and sadly lose them at 7,8, 12 and so on weeks

Edited by Daisy Goat, 30 December 2012 - 08:12 PM.

#11 *molly*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

Wow, thanks Daisy Goat, yeah I expected some nasty responses along those lines. How could I possibly have known I was having a chemical pregnancy? How could I know my own body so well? Shouldn't I have waited another 3 weeks before testing? Maybe I imagined it, eh? How could I possibly be upset when I was only pregnant for 3 days, twice? Other people have it worse. Yeah, thanks a lot.  rolleyes.gif

I NEVER compared my situation to those who had lost pregnancies at a later stage. I just asked for some positive stories from those who have experienced this before. Of course there are worse things than chemical pregnancies. There are worse things than LOTS of things, it doesn't stop them from being distressing. Personally, I find it VERY insulting that you decide to come in here and belittle my distress.

#12 caninestorm

Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:25 PM

Wow Daisy Goat, a bit uncalled for. A loss is a loss. Charting and being in tune with your body is an amazing thing.

Just popping in to give Molly another  bbighug.gif

Edited by caninestorm, 30 December 2012 - 08:27 PM.

#13 TillyTake2

Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:30 PM

How do you know you are pregnant... Ummm, you do a pregnancy test (or multiple tests!) & if they are positive then that is how you know you are pregnant.

#14 libbylu

Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:33 PM

I don't know if this story is encouraging or not, but my cousin had 5 early miscarriages/chemical pregnancies before her baby stuck.  It was very heartbreaking for them but now they have the most gorgeous 4 month old DD who is the light of their lives.  Despite having every test under the sun and undergoing an IVF cycle to look at the eggs and resulting embryos, they never got an answer.  My cousin feels that acupuncture helped her keep her baby on their successful attempt (naturally conceived).  
I also had acupuncture on my successful IVF attempt.
If you are in Melbourne I can recommend someone who is excellent!
In any case, next time your period is late it might be worth getting a blood test to look at the levels of progesterone as well as pregnancy hormone (HCG).  Sometimes early miscarriages can be caused by low progesterone.

Edited by libbylu, 30 December 2012 - 08:37 PM.

#15 it'stime

Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:43 PM

Wow some pp's are harsh.

OP I've had two chemical pregnancies in the last 4 months. While it is upsetting I deliberately will not refer to them as miscarriages. I also refuse to take a pt until I am at least 3 days late.

My fs told me that due to the sensitive tests in the market more and more people are aware of their chemical pregnancies. Realistically she thinks 50% of pregnancies will not actually implant anyway.

So take heart in that you probably would not have realised 5 or so years ago. Sometimes knowing can be more stressful  wink.gif

It is a horrible feeling, but take heart that you are ovulating and your body seems to be working. Try to relax and look after yourself.

#16 *molly*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (TillyTake2 @ 30/12/2012, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How do you know you are pregnant... Ummm, you do a pregnancy test (or multiple tests!) & if they are positive then that is how you know you are pregnant.

Absolutely! It's not like I imagined all those positives!

Libbylu, that IS an encouraging story, thank you. I'm not in Melbourne unfortunately, I'm in Canberra, but there's an acupuncturist here who specialises in fertility that I've heard good things about on this forum. I think I'll look into it in a few months' time if I've had no luck (I hear he's pretty expensive).

myboys, thanks for your support. I've heard the same thing about chemicals being very common. It's not even the chemicals that have upset me so much, but the worry that I'll struggle to have children, having never had any before. I worry that they're a bad sign - but it's reassuring that everyone here keeps saying they're a good sign. Good luck TTC.

ETA: I will ask my GP to test progesterone, thanks libbylu!

Edited by *molly*, 30 December 2012 - 09:10 PM.

#17 Duck-o-lah

Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:23 PM

In any case, next time your period is late it might be worth getting a blood test to look at the levels of progesterone as well as pregnancy hormone (HCG). Sometimes early miscarriages can be caused by low progesterone.
Just popping in to say the same thing.

I had a CP 3 months into TTC. After some time I had my progesterone tested through my GP at 7dpo, the level confirmed I was ovulating but it was on the low side. Eventually I was referred to the fertility clinic and given progesterone support and am now 26 weeks pg original.gif

I agree with PP's, the fact you are conceiving is a good sign and it's still early days yet. Would be worth having a chat to your GP about progesterone levels and perhaps auto-immune antibodies too? This is not my area of expertise, but I believe it is a common thing to look for in sufferers of recurrent mc's...

Good luck original.gif

#18 ruth79

Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:40 PM

I recently had two chemical pregnancies (in september and october). I already have a healthy son. My GP recommended to wait a month before trying again (not sure if that did anything) and now I'm waiting to see how this month has gone. I think it's worth getting them recorded with you gp. She said if I have another one she'll refer me to a gyno for further testing...

#19 *molly*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:40 PM

Thanks duck-o-lah, actually the autoimmune thing is one of my fears. I have mild hashimoto's disease (underactive thyroid), controlled by medication, and my thyroid levels are good so it shouldn't be affecting me. But I'm not sure whether the autoimmune part could still be a problem...

#20 *molly*

Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:58 PM

Ruth, I'm sorry to hear about your chemicals. Good luck for this cycle!

#21 Redfishbluefish

Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:10 PM

OP I had 2 chemical pg's in a row and then fell pg AGAIN the very next cycle, which turned out to be a very healthy and successful pg and she is now 9 months old original.gif I don't refer to these as miscarriages but I still found them extremely distressing at the time. It's very hard to stop worrying that something may be wrong with you, but chances are it is just unlucky sad.gif You do seem very fertile so I do hope you have good news in the next couple of months. We're not planning to ttc again for a little while but when we do I will try to have in the back of my mind that this may happen again (so I don't get my hopes up so soon, if that is even possible!). All the best.

#22 *molly*

Posted 31 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

Thanks alibaba, that's very encouraging, especially since you fell pregnant again straight away! Gives me hope x

#23 Lisags

Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:10 PM

Hi Molly,

I am so sorry for the negative comments.  

As you may be aware I had a CP last cycle.  I had been to the Dr and had my BFP confirmed and then later that day I started spotting and AF showed up.  It worries me that when I get a BFP in the future, when will I be able to start celebrating.  For those few hours I had the hopes for the nine months ahead and the excitement of telling family over Christmas.

I think that the medical profession saying that they wont look at things until trying for 12 months is stupid.  If you weren't well a Doctor wouldn't wait 12 months and then find out what is wrong with you.  If you have a good Doctor talk to them about your concerns.  From what I have read, Doctors will looking into things after 3 CP's.

Anyways I to have an autoimmune disease and think about what issues there may be wrong with me in relation to TTC.  Sure it might be simple that the egg and sperm didn't form properly, but I've also got the what ifs.  I did ask my Doctor to a referral to a gyn before the BFP and she gave it to me as I would rather try and use the time of being healthy to be pregnant.  I know I can always get sick again and it could happen while I am pregnant, but if I can do anything about it know I would rather do that.  

But if you can get your GP to do some tests, some which may help is getting your Oestrogen tested (I think CD 2 or CD3), Progesterone (this has already been suggested) and also your uterine lining (which is linked to your oestrogen levels).  I had an ultrasound done the cycle before the CP and my uterine lining was only 6mm which is on the slim side.

I do hope that your Doctor can help look into things and get some answers.  And if they just fob you off, find someone who will help you.

#24 PatG

Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:34 PM

Although it can't make the loss any easier, very early miscarriages are very common and so shouldn't be looked at as a sign of a problem - yet.  The reading I've done suggests that around one third of implanted pregnancies miscarry between implantation and 14 dpo and another 10% before week 6 (lmp).  

If you also take into account those fertilizations that don't implant apparently you have around 75-80% of not being pregnant after week 6 each month.  Using 75% the numbers come out like this:

Percentage chance of becoming pregnant in one month: 25%
Two months: 44%
Three months: 58%
Four months: 68%
Five months: 75%
Six months: 82%

This doesn't mean that your chance of becoming pregnant each successive month increases as they are independent events, but it means that in 6 months of sperm meeting egg you have an 82% chance of being pregnant at 6 weeks.  Obviously this is all very rough and everyone is different, but as distressing as it is to have two losses in your first two months, try not to worry too much just yet.  Keep good records of what has been happening and keep trying.

#25 *molly*

Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:17 PM

Lisags, I'm sorry to hear about your chemical last month. I hope you get your sticky soon. I will ask my GP about those tests. Is there anything that you were recommended to do to help your thin uterine lining?

Thanks PatG, those numbers are very similar to some of the studies I read. I love statistics and it does actually help to know that it takes many people quite a few months to become pregnant.

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