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But not passionfruit


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#1 Jembo

Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:41 PM

I am giving my vegie garden a makeover at the moment and I have an old farm fence along it and have been wanting to plant something on it as in summer I really need some shade in my vegie garden as it is hot and dry where we live.

However I really don't want a passionfruit there, I have one down the chook pen and hate it (it never fruits, and I am constantly battling suckers and having to trim it from taking over) and I hate it, it is so thick and drives me nuts).

The only other thing I can think of is grapes which won't really be all that suitable I think.  Anyone have some alternatives on a vine I can plant that will also produce food?

#2 pumpkinpie04

Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:45 PM

Raspberry canes?

#3 lynneyours

Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

Apart from passionfruit and grapes:  
blackberry?
raspberry?
strawberry?
tomato?
choko?

I don't know if these can have full sun etc, just that they grow on vines  original.gif

ETA - and KIWIFRUIT of course

Edited by lynnemine, 28 December 2012 - 01:51 PM.


#4 Feral Cancerian

Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:53 PM

Climbing beans.

#5 PatG

Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

I came to say choko too - mainly because they grow easily.  Maybe kiwi fruit?

#6 Jembo

Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

Thanks will google kiwi fruit and choko to see if they can be grown here.

I wish we could grow berries, but it is far too hot here, we have a more mediterrainean climate, that can be a bit tropical as well.  Over summer it is hot, dry, windy and dusty, winter can be a bit dry as well, not really cold and certainly no frost original.gif

Edited by Jembo, 28 December 2012 - 02:26 PM.


#7 pumpkinpie04

Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:27 PM

Maybe dragonfruit - apparently it's a climbing cactus.

#8 Feral Nicety

Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:31 PM

Dragonfruit is really tough and hard to kill.

Kiwifruit can be very invasive so check the rootstock info.

#9 ~rollercoaster~

Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:05 PM

Spagetti squash, apple cucumber and small watermelons

#10 seepi

Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:29 PM

I was going to say Kiwi fruit, but we are in a  cold climate - not sure if they will go well and sweeten up with no frost. They can get big though too - but will fruit a lot.

I'd try a different passionfruit - it sounds like yours has reverted to the rootstock, which grows like crazy and barely fruits. get a new one - 'ungrafted' if you can, so it can't go feral.

Would grapes not work?

#11 Kalota

Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:01 PM

I was going to suggest grapes, we have a sultana grap vine (I think?) and it is fantastic. It looks beautiful even when not fruiting, and the grapes are delicious! We've had it for several years and we get at least 5 huge bunches of grapes a year now during the fruiting season. The only thing is that the birds often get to them before they ripen, so we've fashioned some special protective bags to slip over the top of them original.gif Is there any reason that grapes wouldn't be suitable?

#12 Corella

Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:24 PM

Chokos work well in that kind of climate.

#13 Jembo

Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE
Is there any reason that grapes wouldn't be suitable?


Probably not really, more just I had the image of my Grandpops vine that in winter had no leaves and wasnt particularly pretty and it seemed a bit more work than I wanted, and the taste seems hit and miss with so many types.  We only have access to bunnings for quite a few fruit trees until we get to City and Bunnings are crap for fruits, and probably wont have any in any event.  I will have a bit of a read on some other types of grapes and see if I can get one it is probably the best option, we are bound to eat grapes more than anything else.

I did want to try hanging cucumbers, but they just get fried in our weather, I am even struggling to keep my pumpkin vine alive at the moment as the hot wind kills the leaves.

#14 FiveAus

Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:09 AM

We've got s grape arbour and every year we get huge bunches of young grapes......then before they ripen they shrivel on the vine.

I wouldn't plant blackberry, it's a noxious weed in some state and very hard to get rid of.

Snow peas and sugar snap peas are easy, so are Indian runner beans. I'd go with a new passionfruit though.

#15 noi'mnot

Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

Don't despair if you're only able to access Bunnings - there are a few places that do mail order of plants. I've had great success with the plants I've ordered from Diggers, and they do give great advice according to your climate and growing conditions. They have many varieties of grapes (not always available through the website, you might have to subscribe to know what their full selection is, or give them a call), and other things that might be suitable too.

Good luck! original.gif



#16 whale-woman

Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

I agree your chook pen passion fruit is probably rootstock. I'd kill it off and replant with something else. in our backyard we have banana and ordinary passionfruits. blackberries, raspberries (cane not climbing really so probably not for you)  & loganberries.
Kiwi friut will get massive and you do need a male and female to get fruit.
I'd go with some form of logan/blackberry. We've just been gorging on berries and have kgs of them in the freezer. Luxury! Bugger paying 4$ for 20 berries in a punnet. Grow your own!

ETA You can get thornless berry bushes too if you're worried about creating a jungle.

Edited by whale-woman, 29 December 2012 - 12:35 PM.


#17 FeralSchnitzel

Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:13 PM

How about an avocado hedge? They grow really tall, are ever green and are very low maintenance. They can be hedged quite easily, but will require about 2m depth. Ours is just starting to fruit now, after 3 years in the ground (a grafted avocado) in Melbourne. As a pp said, Diggers give great advice - we have bought plants and seeds from them in the past.

#18 livvie7586

Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:17 PM

QUOTE (whale-woman @ 29/12/2012, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree your chook pen passion fruit is probably rootstock. I'd kill it off and replant with something else. in our backyard we have banana and ordinary passionfruits. blackberries, raspberries (cane not climbing really so probably not for you)  & loganberries.
Kiwi friut will get massive and you do need a male and female to get fruit.
I'd go with some form of logan/blackberry. We've just been gorging on berries and have kgs of them in the freezer. Luxury! Bugger paying 4$ for 20 berries in a punnet. Grow your own!


we have a sylvanberry which is nice (i think it's supposed to be a non invasive blackberry variant, lovely big berries that taste lovely)

#19 ~iMum~

Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:34 PM

Where abouts are you?

Have you considered a luffa? They are really hardy in subtropical and tropical areas. Or Ceylon spinach?

#20 ~iMum~

Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:35 PM

Velvet beans?

#21 Jembo

Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE
Where abouts are you?


WA 5 hrs north of Perth, probaby on par with Brisbane on other side of the country, however much more dry.

So any form of berries are out up this far.

Avocado hedge sounds great, as would love a hedge where it is to screen off vegie patch.

Think I will definately kill off the current passionfruit and start again.  I have a bit of wire in my vegie patch where it would not be able to climb on anything else at all, as is in middle, so might be a good spot for it.

I just signed up to diggers club, so off for some reading as would love to grow more than watermelon and pumpkin in summer months original.gif

#22 BetteBoop

Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:29 PM

I'd replace the old passionfruit vine with a new one. I've got passionfruit and it's nothing like yours.

As PPs said, the rootstock has taken over. Most other fruiting vines aren't as low maintenance or prolific as passionfruit. Who eats chockos?

#23 Froger

Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE (BetteBoop @ 29/12/2012, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who eats chockos?


Me!! Chokos are fabulous and very versatile. I like them thinly sliced and stir fried - nice with other vegies and chicken or beef strips. Or put them in with other vegies when you are doing a roast - they get a nice flavour from the meat. Chop them and add them to stews, curries, casseroles or dhals.

Any Indian recipes which call for doodhi can use choko instead. Eg chickpeas and choko, eggplant and choko, chana dhal and choko. Just google for some doodhi recipes.

It just grows and grows and gives so much fruit with so little effort. The leaves can be stir fried as well. If you pick them when they are small they are very easy to peel as the spikes aren't formed yet and nor the deep furrows. Or even there is no need to peel them if picked small enough.

#24 Kalota

Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:05 PM

Yeah, I was going to suggest a new passion fruit vine as well, ours is nothing like you've described, it's a lovely vine! Plus it survives well in that kind of climate.




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