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#1 Red Cabbage

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:43 AM

I'm looking into anti bark collars for my parents, they have gone away until April and left the dog in charge of my son who is house sitting. It's a silky x Maltese, and there has now been complaints from the neighbours as my son works long hours, yet the neighbour is a shift worker. So the dog is obviously barking when no one is home. I stayed there for a couple of days and he hardly made a noise.

Dad would like an anti bark collar as he isn't home to deal with the issue in any other way. Can anyone please share their experiences, and which to get. I have never used them, don't even know how they work, so happy to hear all stories, success or not.

Thanks

#2 Three Of Hearts

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:52 AM

I wanted to stop one of my dogs barking at our pet birds.

I didn't want to buy one that actually hurt the dog (like a shock collar or one that sprayed stuff in his face) so I bought an ultrasonic one that emits a sound (that humans cannot hear) every time he barks.  It was meant to distract him until he worked out that every time he barked it was squealing, and so would learn not to bark.

Didn't do a bloody thing roll2.gif

#3 MoonPie

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:56 AM

We have a chronic anxious barker, we bought our 'final option' bark collar about 18 months ago. Best Thing Ever. Not for every dog of course, but for Sam, the citronella and ultrasonic collars did nothing. Putting the collar on him frees him from the need to bark, and he's an entirely different, relaxed dog instead of getting overwrought and beside himself over the smallest things.

The first day was awful, he would bark once and yelp three times as he got a shock. We also had an issue a couple of weeks ago when we replaced the battery for the first time because he'd worked out it was flat. Overall though, not only did it mean we could keep him, it also made him a much happier dog.

We implemented daily long walk/runs at the same time.

#4 CharliMarley

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:58 AM

You can get anti-bark collars which spray an amount of citronella every time the dog barks. You don't have to be home to use these. The other option is the anti-bark collar which you have to push a button on a remote every time the dog barks and it gets a small electric pulse into the neck. You can make it any degree of discomfort you want - high or low.

However, you would have to be around to train the dog with this collar and the dog would need to wear the collar while everyone is away, and dogs are very smart and they work out that no collar on, means no zapping.

Some states will not allow these collars, so you need to check with the company who sells them. The citronella ones can be used anywhere. You can go online and just google "barking dog" to find the collars. wwhistle.gif

#5 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:02 AM

You need either a sonic or a citronella bark collar. The shock collars are illegal in many states, and ought to be illegal in every state. If the dog barks in a particular place, there are things you can use that will work like a collar - but are safer to use. Things like the Motion Activated Sprinkler and the sonic bird house that is aimed at dogs barking along fence lines.

You might want to ask the neighbour if he can identify what the dog is barking at - and see if you can eliminate that first. Sometimes screening out the object of barking is enough, or blocking access to a front fence where they can see the street (and things to woof at). And let him know you're working on it. Ask him to keep a diary of when the dog barks and for how long - that will give you some clues as to whether there is a specific trigger (like kids getting home from school or some such thing).

Also, ensuring the dog has plenty to do while your son is out - so Kongs, bones, toys, a digging clam with sand and 'surprises' buried in there are things that keep dogs entertained for hours.

I'd also suggest that a visit from a behaviouralist who specialises in barking dogs would be a good investment - that way, the dog learns not to bark, even if the collar is not on and the other things aren't there either.

#6 MoonPie

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE (Winterdanceparty @ 28/12/2012, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can get anti-bark collars which spray an amount of citronella every time the dog barks. You don't have to be home to use these. The other option is the anti-bark collar which you have to push a button on a remote every time the dog barks and it gets a small electric pulse into the neck. You can make it any degree of discomfort you want - high or low.

However, you would have to be around to train the dog with this collar and the dog would need to wear the collar while everyone is away, and dogs are very smart and they work out that no collar on, means no zapping.

Some states will not allow these collars, so you need to check with the company who sells them. The citronella ones can be used anywhere. You can go online and just google "barking dog" to find the collars. wwhistle.gif

Ours is a shock collar that works automatically as the dog barks. Starts as a tingle and works its way up. Petsafe brand, I believe, cost about $150 from a pet supply shop.

#7 Lightning_bug

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:03 AM

We had a citronella bark collar.

The dog barked at it until it was empty every time I put it on.

He literally tried to chase the spray rolleyes.gif  biggrin.gif

$160 down the drain.

I thought about the shock collar but you can't get them in Australia (I thought) so I sought out another solution - I bring him into the laundry.

Edited by Lightning_bug, 28 December 2012 - 11:05 AM.


#8 FiveAus

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

I have used a shock collar as a last resort (before I strangled the bugger) with instant success. It was amazing how quickly it worked. But it was on a dog considerably bigger than a Maltese.

#9 Feral Grey Mare

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE (Red Cabbage @ 28/12/2012, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm looking into anti bark collars for my parents, they have gone away until April and left the dog in charge of my son who is house sitting. It's a silky x Maltese, and there has now been complaints from the neighbours as my son works long hours, yet the neighbour is a shift worker. So the dog is obviously barking when no one is home. I stayed there for a couple of days and he hardly made a noise.

Dad would like an anti bark collar as he isn't home to deal with the issue in any other way. Can anyone please share their experiences, and which to get. I have never used them, don't even know how they work, so happy to hear all stories, success or not.

Thanks



Glad I was sitting down when I read this one. My parents can be annoying too, but collars?

#10 skylark

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:35 AM

My dad looks after my sister's dog for her, there was never any barking trouble until my dad's dog died and my sister's dog was then lonely. She is an older maltese x, not particularly mild-mannered temperament, but the citronella collar was incredibly effective for her. She only had to wear it for a day or two before she stopped barking. Now they just show her the collar if she is getting a bit yappy and she will stop.

#11 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:38 AM

OP, before you go down the road of considering a shock collar - and I seriously hope you don't go to this extreme - please read this article by a previous stockist of shock collars, which explains why they no longer stock them.

And some of you ladies who used these devices, should probably have a read too. sad.gif

#12 Sey

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:54 AM

we bought a shock bark collar too and put it on the (young) dog when we go to work and take it of when we get home. we knew he liked the sound of his own voice, but didnt know he barked literally from the time we left until the time we returned - until the neighbour told us. we felt so bad.

everyone is happy now, and he knows not to bark when the collar is on. i feel guilty using it, but it's not fair on the neighbours, and what are we going to do, rehome the dog so he can go bark somewhere else? he gets 2 walks a day, has been trained, and has company. his brother isnt a nuisance barker.

#13 FizzlingFireboxes

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (Sey @ 28/12/2012, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
everyone is happy now, and he knows not to bark when the collar is on. i feel guilty using it, but it's not fair on the neighbours, and what are we going to do, rehome the dog so he can go bark somewhere else? he gets 2 walks a day, has been trained, and has company. his brother isnt a nuisance barker.


What about fair for your dog? I have no experience with shock collars but it's not something I would consider, I wouldn't want to put one on myself so I will not do it to my dog.

I'm sure there are other methods of training to help with barking, or additional toys, moving your dog inside etc...

#14 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

QUOTE (Sey @ 28/12/2012, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we bought a shock bark collar too and put it on the (young) dog when we go to work and take it of when we get home. we knew he liked the sound of his own voice, but didnt know he barked literally from the time we left until the time we returned - until the neighbour told us. we felt so bad.

everyone is happy now, and he knows not to bark when the collar is on. i feel guilty using it, but it's not fair on the neighbours, and what are we going to do, rehome the dog so he can go bark somewhere else? he gets 2 walks a day, has been trained, and has company. his brother isnt a nuisance barker.


Then you broke the LAW. Shock collars are prohibited in the ACT and NSW.

Not to mention it doesn't sound like your dog is particularly happy with the result - so yes, you should feel guilty about what you're doing to your dog. mad.gif

#15 Oriental lily

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:08 PM

I don't understand how anyone could justify using a shock collar.

It's simply cruel

Effective? Sure!
But then booting him in the head or slapping him with a crop or rubber hosewould also work yet that's illegal.

It's the same principal.
They stop to avoid pain and the distress the pain causes.

It can also be incredibly dangerous, especially the ones that are left on when the owner is out.

I have no problem with the citronella collars or sonic collars.
That unpleasant. Not painful


Really if you have got to the level that
your considering torturing your dog with electric shocks then perhaps talk to your vet about debarking.

It's a procedure a vet will do if the only alternative is euthanasia.

I think it's kinder than inflicting constant pain on them.

#16 FiveAus

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:09 PM

I didn't use it without a lot of research, lots of other methods tried and failed, a long chat with my vet, the knowledge and agreement of the local ranger, and lots of angst on my part. And I tried it on myself first. It was literally no worse than a static shock. It worked within two barks.He barked once, zap, look of surprise, another bark, zap, big look of surprise, no more barking. It was very effective very fast. I used it once more a few weeks later when he barked at nothing for a minute, and he stopped as soon as it went on.
It was much less stressful than anything else I tried, including constantly yelling at him to shut up. I read all the fors and againsts before we tried it though, and definitely didn't do it on a whim.
If anyone else is thinking of using one, I suggest talking to their vet and also to the local council ranger.

#17 Sey

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:12 PM

mummy.to.one yes we certainly did try training, but without a person physically with him, he barks and barks and barks, and then barks some more (they are inside when we are home). he is his normal happy self, so its a solution that has worked.

#18 FizzlingFireboxes

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:19 PM

That's great you did try other training methods, but it still doesn't mean a shock collar is okay IMO.

Our dog had huge anxiety when we left the house, she would find a way out as soon as we left, I know it's not barking but it's still a problem.

We replaced two fences, dug bricks into the ground so she couldn't dig, cut trees down that she would climb, removed a frame from the side of our house she would climb. All of this failed, she now lives inside full time. She is much happier for it and it was a solution, other than giving her away which we wouldn't do as we had adopted her from a bad home when she was 5.

If it was barking I wouldn't have gone down the shock collar path, would your dog be happier inside when you are not there, if that's an option?

#19 FiveAus

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:20 PM

They aren't inflicting constant pain on the dog, because the dog stops barking. It requires the dog wearing the collar to bark and doesn't zap the dog if another dog barks. It most certainly is NOT like a kick to the head. My dog didn't even yelp, and that's the usual reaction from a dog who is suddenly hurt.

#20 Sey

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:30 PM

mummy.to.one we did try that, and he barks non stop inside the house too. we are very close to 2 houses which (the parents) have had babies recently so i think their sleep is important too? other places i have lived and worked shifts and when a dog  barks all day it's just horrible, nobody is happy. and you tell the owner and they are not interested. i didnt want to be "that" neighbour. and truly my dog is a happy boy.

#21 Sey

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:32 PM

i am not saying people SHOULD use them, just that as a last resort it was successful in our situation, after trying different training, kongs, bones etc

#22 CharliMarley

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE (Sey @ 28/12/2012, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we bought a shock bark collar too and put it on the (young) dog when we go to work and take it of when we get home. we knew he liked the sound of his own voice, but didnt know he barked literally from the time we left until the time we returned - until the neighbour told us. we felt so bad.

everyone is happy now, and he knows not to bark when the collar is on. i feel guilty using it, but it's not fair on the neighbours, and what are we going to do, rehome the dog so he can go bark somewhere else? he gets 2 walks a day, has been trained, and has company. his brother isnt a nuisance barker.

You have to try something that really works, or someone could throw a bait over the fence to get rid of the dog. sad.gif

#23 Oriental lily

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:41 PM

Many dogs do yelp.
Some dogs get ghastly mental and physical injuries because they do not associate the barking with the zap.
So in there distress continue to bark.
Which means they are in pain.

Google injuries from shock collars and you will be horrified.

In every other type of modern training with dogs ( or any animal in fact) positive reinforcement is almost universally considered the correct way to train.
Pain?
Never.

Yet these shock collars are still approved by some trainers,vets and rangers.

The mind boggles.

FiveAus why did you not consider debarking?

#24 Oriental lily

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:43 PM

Also sey have you considered debarking?

#25 FiveAus

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:52 PM

I did consider it, hence the long talk with the vet. She wouldn't do it unless I had exhausted all other avenues and suggested trying a shock collar. Do you think I didn't try absolutely everything? Yes, I googled for weeks. I have seen all that but I also read plenty of success stories.
Positive reinforcement only works if the dog stops barking for a bit so you can praise it and reward it for being quiet. As soon as I showed up with the praise, off he'd go again. And this was a herding dog with a very loud bark with a high top note that went right through you.




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