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#1 Satay Chicken

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:07 AM

I just saw my Ob this morning for my monthly check up and he really drilled into me about making sure that family and friends have the Whooping caugh vac before visiting the baby..  He said that the amount of babies with Whooping caugh is now getting serious.

So, how do you go about this?  Family and friends are going to be coming and wanting to see the baby  but I don't feel I can say to people that they are not allowed to see the baby until they get immunised..

Agh, more things to think about..

Edited by Satay chicken, 28 December 2012 - 10:10 AM.


#2 Guest_Waiting ..._*

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:16 AM

Thank you for posting as I have been wondering the same Satay Chicken! We educated both grandparents with a pamphlet and they went and got their shots updated but for other people I would feel pretty rude asking. We have a friend whose baby almost died from whooping cough though so while it may seem overly "precious or cotton wool" to some, it is very serious!

I am thinking that most people who will visit in the very early weeks would be close enough friends/relatives that we can comfortably discuss and then I will keep it very polite but assertive with others, explaining that we are not trying to be offensive but would prefer they wait until after bub has had vaccinations to come if they have not been vaccinated. Some people will probably not like it but what can you do.

#3 jmaz86

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:18 AM

My midwife said the same to me. I  just came straight out and told some of the family. I would just explain that there is increased prevalence of whopping cough at the moment and it is your decision that people who are to visit need to have the vaccine. I have an issue with sil  as she is of the anti vaccine camp and has not had her son vaccinated...it is her  choice but she will be made aware that I don't want to be visited by them until such point as my child has immunity to the level I am satisfied with.

#4 elizabethany

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:24 AM

I said that anyone who wanted to spend a reasonable amount of time near the baby needed to be vaxxed and anyone who is not vaxxed recently wasn't allowed to visit if they had any signs of a cold (as whooping cough in adults can be very mild).  The vaccine is free to parents and grandparents of newborns, and some states will allow you to vaxx earlier.  It can also be included on request free of charge if you get a tetanus shot (along with diptheria).

Remember also that the vaxx is not 100%.  Despite being vaxxed, my DH caught whooping cough in October, but the fact that I and my DS were vaxxed meant we were less likely to catch it, and we didn't.

You have every right to dictate who sees your baby, and I see no problem with excluding people who knowingly risk such a lethal infection.

#5 Moo point

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:30 AM

We encouraged all the grandparents to have it done, they all did as did BIL. SIL did not have hers done and was happy to wait until DS was at least 6 weeks old.

We emailed everyone else before DS was born and said we would prefer anyone who had signs of illness or who hadn't had their booster to please wait until DS had had his first vaccines. Not one person had a problem with it, whether they had been vaxxed or not. Another friend had a cold on and off so waited until DS was 12 weeks old just in case.

Your baby, your decision. We didn't keep DS at home, we still ventured out, but close friends and family are more likely to hold the baby close and share germs than people on the street.

#6 Cyaira

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:35 AM

I asked my mother and she flat out refused! She's supposed to be helping me out in the early days and later on caring for our baby (due march). She says I'm paranoid and even gossiped about me asking to other family members and they all started laughing at me behind my back!!

She does the same with pregnancy food safety, saying I'm paranoid.

I tried saying there's lots going around, etc etc. nope. Apparently I'm crazy and because she's had it before she can't pass it on, she knows 'all about it' because she worked in childcare, 'I'm going to isolate myself from everyone over something stupid'.

I didn't really see why it was such a big ask! I offered to pay for it of course. MIL on the other hand was only too happy to get the shot. shrug.gif

#7 EsmeLennox

Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:56 AM

Cyaira, I would ask your MIL to help after baby is born then.

My DH, eldest and youngest children had WC last year. The kids we fully vaccinated, DH not because he can't have vaccinations, it was pretty awful for them and it was a mild dose they all had.

I would put it out there to close family and friends that WC is a real problem at the moment and that you're sure they will understand you asking them not to visit if they have not been vaccinated and/or show any signs of a cold like illness, no matter how mild.


#8 Lightning_bug

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:01 AM

Then I would be asking your MIL to help and explain to your mother that given she's already disrespecting your parental decisions perhaps it would be best if she only visit occasionally until bubs is stronger.

There's no excuse.  Both my parents are pretty anti-vax but didn't hesitate.

OP, dont' be shy and don't feel bad.  WC is insidious and in an adult can be very mild but for infants it racks their whole body.

It's as simple as... do it or don't come over until bubs is vaccinated.

#9 Kay1

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:03 AM

We sent an email to our family asking them to consider having a booster (set out the reason why first). We then asked that regardless of whether they decide to or not that they not visit if anyone in their family has a cough.

Most of our family were happy to have the booster. Some did not. We did not ban them from seeing the baby but we were very careful about keeping anyone remotely ill away.

Having said that the day we brought DS3 home from the hospital DS2 had a horrible, hacking cough which I was so worried about. He had it for weeks. We tried to keep him away from DS3 as much as possible but it was so hard. Fortunately DS3 didn't get it.

Edited by Kay1, 28 December 2012 - 11:05 AM.


#10 BBV

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:37 AM

I have been thinking a lot about this too...both grandparents will be vaccinated, my sister and DH/myself. I'm thinking about sending email/SMS similar to what some of u girls have about not visiting until X weeks if u have a cough/cold, I assumed most ppl wouldn't visit if they felt like this BUT some people don't seem to care. It's a tough one, I'm really dreading some of the reactions I may get from some people like ur mum Cyaira. You must be very disappointed with ur mum, I would ask ur MIL to help you out...if ur mum can't respect ur wishes re vaccination I don't think I would be asking for help.

Edited by BBV, 28 December 2012 - 11:39 AM.


#11 *lightning

Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:57 AM

Grab some pamphlets and hand them out. You can't force people to vaccinate but you can certainly decide who can visit baby. If your uncomfortable with having people visit who haven't had the booster, ask them to wait until baby has been vaccinated. I never asked anyone to get the booster but I do avoid close contact with anyone who is sick.

If someone is sick they should stay away from your newborn, even if they have had the booster.

#12 MAGS24

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:06 PM

Honestly, I just didn't let any visitors hold the baby or go near him very much until he had his vaccination for Whooping Cough. It is just too risky. This was made easier for me though because all of our relatives live interstate and after all of the problems the relatives caused when they visited our first baby, I told everyone that I didn't want any visitors for a while. If any friends did come to visit, they didn't get to go near the baby very much or hold the baby.

#13 Kay1

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:08 PM

Find some footage of newborns with whooping cough, show your mother and ask her if she still thinks you are being paranoid.

None of my kids' grandparents hesitated to get the booster. My Dad had to travel to two different hospitals to get checked out first because he was potentially allergic but he said if he wasn't able to have the booster he wouldn't visit the baby after seeing something on tv about Dana McCaffery. Thankfully he was able to have the booster without any problems in the end.

#14 ~*bumblebee*~

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:20 PM

Does anyone no how long the booster lasts??? We all had it 6 years ago when DD was born wondering if we need to get it again for this bubs??

#15 #LG

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:24 PM

You may find quite a few of your friends and family have already had the booster vaccine needle. Many of the people we know have, as it has become a bit of a necessity over the past few years.

So rather than asking people straight out to get the booster, ask them if they have had it already. If they say no, tell them about the epidemic and suggest that it would be best for them (as well as your baby) to get one.

Anyone who refuses should simply be asked to delay visiting your baby until after 6 or 8 weeks or whenever you get them immunised. It's no big deal to ask this and anyone who feels strongly about seeing your bub immediately after they are born won't mind putting themselves out a little by getting the booster.

#16 Natttmumm

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:49 PM

When DD1 was born we asked mum to get it. She reluctantly did get the needle.
When DD2 Was born we stopped most visitors until around 6 to 8 weeks. We just said do you mind visiting once we are settled at home. By 6 weeks she had the first needle and we felt a bit better,
At age 1 she got wc even though vaccinated. DD1 was three. Both fully vaccinated so were ok but it did make for a horrible 3 months and cough for DD1 that took ages to go away.
Take all the precautions that make you comfortable even if it means limited visitors. It's your baby and your job to protect to a level where you feel comfortable.

When DD1 was born we asked mum to get it. She reluctantly did get the needle.
When DD2 Was born we stopped most visitors until around 6 to 8 weeks. We just said do you mind visiting once we are settled at home. By 6 weeks she had the first needle and we felt a bit better,
At age 1 she got wc even though vaccinated. DD1 was three. Both fully vaccinated so were ok but it did make for a horrible 3 months and cough for DD1 that took ages to go away.
Take all the precautions that make you comfortable even if it means limited visitors. It's your baby and your job to protect to a level where you feel comfortable.

#17 Pop-to-the-shops

Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:55 PM

My baby has just had whooping cough, and he was three months and had his first shot.

We were lucky he was not hospitalized, but it was still awful.

We think he got it from my fully immunized kids.

So I would keep visitors to minimum, and insist they not visit if even slightly unwell or coughing, even I'd they have a cold.

This is the link to send to people. It has videos.

http://www.whoopingcough.com.au/


#18 CharliMarley

Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:00 PM

QUOTE (Cyaira @ 28/12/2012, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I asked my mother and she flat out refused! She's supposed to be helping me out in the early days and later on caring for our baby (due march). She says I'm paranoid and even gossiped about me asking to other family members and they all started laughing at me behind my back!!

She does the same with pregnancy food safety, saying I'm paranoid.

I tried saying there's lots going around, etc etc. nope. Apparently I'm crazy and because she's had it before she can't pass it on, she knows 'all about it' because she worked in childcare, 'I'm going to isolate myself from everyone over something stupid'.

I didn't really see why it was such a big ask! I offered to pay for it of course. MIL on the other hand was only too happy to get the shot. shrug.gif


Sorry, but your mother sounds like an uneducated moron to scoff at the advice to vaccinate. I had whooping cough as a 5 year old and I went and had the vaccination before I went near my newborn grandchildren. The vaccine only last so long and you really need to get a booster after 7 years, I think.

#19 Cyaira

Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:22 PM

I struggle to think of anything that will get through to her, she's extremely stubborn and always thinks she is right.

Problem is, if I tell her she can't hold the baby till he's had his vaccinations I wouldn't put it past her to laugh, lie and say she's had them, and roll her eyes at me behind my back.

The stupidity isnt limited to my mother, either. My sister saw my newborn nephew when she knew she was starting to get sick. It later turned out she had strep throat. Because he was ok apparently it's all ok to do things like that. And to top it off my brother has been pursuaded by the AVN...

It's so hard to get through to them, they just think I'm stupid. It's very disrespectful and hurtful. sad.gif I hope nobody else encounters family like this.

Strange thing is they absolutely loooove babies, buy my baby all these things, etc.

I think maybe I will ask MIL to help! Only problem is she's 1 1/4 hours drive away. sad.gif

#20 FeralFoom

Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (Cyaira @ 28/12/2012, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I struggle to think of anything that will get through to her, she's extremely stubborn and always thinks she is right.


Don't know if I can help with the stubborn but have you made sure she actually has the right facts from an authoratitive source. ie Do the brochures come straight out and say that if you have had whooping cough then you are still at risk of catching it, and hence need a booster?

I didn't ask any of the grandparents to have the booster when our boy was born a few years back. I assumed their childhood bouts (which landed most of them in hospital) were enough to give them lifelong immunity. My parents and in-laws take the disease seriously having experienced it themselves but we were never told that they wouldn't have lifetime immunity.

I don't have any of the current brochures - I was told by the Dr to get myself  done (I missed out on the full course as a child due to reacting to the  vaccine) but at the time the epidemic wasn't bad enough to have Drs telling people to all the grandparents booster shots let alone be handing out brochures.

#21 lozzylots

Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:17 PM

I'm fairly introverted but when it came to this issue, the mother instincts kicked in big time and I was happy to tell everyone that it was either be immunised or not come to see bubs until she is fully immunised (which doesn't happen until the third lot of immunisations have been done, so no baby time until 6 moths). So grandparents, great-grandma, aunties and uncles all got them done - we told everyone if money was an issue we'd happily pay for them but nobody took our offer. For me, reading the stories of tiny babies that contracted whooping cough and died was more than enough to convince me this was not something I was going to defied on.

When my dad had his done, his GP told him that one of his patients asked for a letter from him to say they'd had it done as the mum-to-be was insisting not only on vaccinations from family members but also proof thereof!

#22 twilightangel

Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:05 PM

QUOTE (~*bumblebee*~ @ 28/12/2012, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone no how long the booster lasts??? We all had it 6 years ago when DD was born wondering if we need to get it again for this bubs??


If I recall correctly it was suggested by ICU staff when my son was admitted that whooping cough be boosted or at least checked every 5 years but maybe ask your OB next time you see him/her

QUOTE (Akatara @ 28/12/2012, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My baby has just had whooping cough, and he was three months and had his first shot.

We were lucky he was not hospitalized, but it was still awful.

We think he got it from my fully immunized kids.

So I would keep visitors to minimum, and insist they not visit if even slightly unwell or coughing, even I'd they have a cold.

This is the link to send to people. It has videos.

http://www.whoopingcough.com.au/


Im so pleased to hear your son is ok. I remember you replied to a thread of mine that I posted about my baby boy who was in ICU fighting whooping cough.

OP - As mentioned my son was admitted into hospital at 11 weeks of age with whooping cough after turning blue at home. Two days after being admitted saw us being transferred by paediatric retrieval team to RCH Brisbane and into their HDU ward. A few hours later and he was moved into ICU. My son spent 6 weeks in hospital with 4 of those weeks being spent in ICU or HDU fighting for his life. The drs believe that the fact he had had his first vaccination was what helped him avoid ventilation but he did come close a few times. He was a MERT call 4 times and had CPR preformed once for a heart rate of 40bpm and believe me it is absolutely terrifying seeing a team of medics come running into the room with a crash cart knowing it is for your child.

So in saying that please do what ever you feel is necessary to protect your child. Hubby and I have already decided that when the time comes and we have another child be will not be allowing visitors in the first few weeks unless we know that visitor has had a booster etc. In saying that all grandparents were boosted and all siblings up to date but sadly I still need to drop kids off to school and thats where the drs believe my child was exposed.

Two of my older kids got whooping cough too but for them it just sounded like a dry annoying cough. I would never have suspected they had whooping cough.

#23 Pop-to-the-shops

Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:22 PM

QUOTE (twilightangel @ 28/12/2012, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I recall correctly it was suggested by ICU staff when my son was admitted that whooping cough be boosted or at least checked every 5 years but maybe ask your OB next time you see him/her



Im so pleased to hear your son is ok. I remember you replied to a thread of mine that I posted about my baby boy who was in ICU fighting whooping cough.

OP - As mentioned my son was admitted into hospital at 11 weeks of age with whooping cough after turning blue at home. Two days after being admitted saw us being transferred by paediatric retrieval team to RCH Brisbane and into their HDU ward. A few hours later and he was moved into ICU. My son spent 6 weeks in hospital with 4 of those weeks being spent in ICU or HDU fighting for his life. The drs believe that the fact he had had his first vaccination was what helped him avoid ventilation but he did come close a few times. He was a MERT call 4 times and had CPR preformed once for a heart rate of 40bpm and believe me it is absolutely terrifying seeing a team of medics come running into the room with a crash cart knowing it is for your child.

So in saying that please do what ever you feel is necessary to protect your child. Hubby and I have already decided that when the time comes and we have another child be will not be allowing visitors in the first few weeks unless we know that visitor has had a booster etc. In saying that all grandparents were boosted and all siblings up to date but sadly I still need to drop kids off to school and thats where the drs believe my child was exposed.

Two of my older kids got whooping cough too but for them it just sounded like a dry annoying cough. I would never have suspected they had whooping cough.

I'm so glad your little one is recovering... That sounds so awful. We had a couple of Er trips, but manages to stay out of hospital. It's so draining I hope your getting some rest now.





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