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#1 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:44 AM

you should immunise your children...


Tetanus

#2 CFMummy

Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:49 AM

My Nana had a friend die from tetanus when they were young she always remembers how he died in agony. She also had whooping cough as a baby and has alot of lung troubles now because of it mind yo she is 90 years old now

#3 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:51 AM

Yes, I just think people forget that there is real risk to the most precious people in your life through not immunising. People need to wake up... If you don't immunise by choice (not because it is contraindicated) then this could happen to your child.

#4 FeralFerretOfDoom

Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:53 AM

Nah Jemstar, that whole story was just faked by the gubmint. And the family was paid off by Big Pharma.

And "Starship Hospital"? Please. Obviously a front for the evil alien lizard overlords.

The anti-vax mob make me sick. And sadly there is no vaccine available for that.

#5 BetteBoop

Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:55 AM

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Mrs Williams said they made what they thought was an informed decision not to vaccinate any of their children because of concerns over adverse reactions, but had since changed their minds.


There is no such thing as an informed opinion not to vaccinate kids who are not contraindicated.

I hope the poor little boy makes a full recovery.

#6 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:55 AM

Sadly, I am waiting to see that exact sort of media release from certain groups very shortly WFD...



#7 Soontobegran

Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:55 AM

I admire the parents who have gone from anti vaxxers to vax advocates.
I hope he makes a full recovery.

#8 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:56 AM

I notice the family's other children have been quickly immunised now. Too little, too late for their oldest child though. Poor little boy.

STBG, yes, I do admire that the parents have been brave enough to admit that they were wrong and share their story. That would be incredibly difficult.

Edited by Jemstar, 22 December 2012 - 09:57 AM.


#9 snuffles

Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:06 PM

Yep.  I have a friend who had polio before immunisations were commonplace.  Now she has post polio and although she is as active as she can be, her muscles are deteriorating and things get harder and harder for her as time goes on.  I can not imagine exposing my children to the risk of that happening, despite the risk being small these days (here at least) due to herd immunity.



#10 kay11

Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:15 PM

If someone chooses not to vaccinate due to the risk of rare adverse reactions to vaccination then they should be sh1t scared of the actual effects of someone of these diseases.

My daughter is at a high risk of an adverse reaction - she is also on a medication for which the MMR is contraindicated.

She got her MMR booster on Thursday after discussions between a Professor of Immunology, her specialist and the Vaccine Specialist at the Children's hospital.

Measles complications are far worse then the adverse reaction she risked and would complicate treatment for her syndrome even further.



#11 Carrie_zmatik

Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:15 PM

I feel for the family And am glad they are advocating for immunization now. I do feel frustrated that they say "at least vaccinate for tetanus and whooping cough", what about measles, pneumococcal, meningitis? These kill children too.

#12 Feral Alpacas

Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:40 PM

DD2 had her 4mo vaccinations on Monday and reacted- she was miserable all week. I'd hate to think how ill she would be if she actually caught anything that she was vaccinated against.

#13 Lyra

Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (kay11 @ 22/12/2012, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If someone chooses not to vaccinate due to the risk of rare adverse reactions to vaccination then they should be sh1t scared of the actual effects of someone of these diseases.

My daughter is at a high risk of an adverse reaction - she is also on a medication for which the MMR is contraindicated.

She got her MMR booster on Thursday after discussions between a Professor of Immunology, her specialist and the Vaccine Specialist at the Children's hospital.

Measles complications are far worse then the adverse reaction she risked and would complicate treatment for her syndrome even further.



and children like yours are exactly the reason why the rest of us need to be vaccinated!

Herd immunity! It works!

My father was a medic in the Vietnam War and some guy got tetanus and for some reason they couldn't give him the booster. Anyway, my dad's story about hearing this guys bones crack under the pressure of his muscles spasming was enough for me to always, always be up to date with tetanus shots

#14 Super Cat

Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:39 PM

I wonder how many people still thinks it's better to go through the disease and get immunity that way? That poor child must have suffered through the most awful pain.

#15 purplekitty

Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

Unlike some other VPDs, Tetanus infection does not result in any immunity so you still require vaccination.

What a heartbreaking story and how dangerous that antivax sites often ridicule the need for Tet. vaccine and promote all sorts of unproven remedies and preventatives.


#16 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:02 PM

That poor child.  sad.gif

#17 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:17 PM

I think the aim is to shine the light on those people behind families like this one. The people who make it their 'work' to convince people about immunisation conspiracy theories and who, in many ways, are responsible for incidents like this through their persuasive spread of misinformation and frankly, lies.

I do not think WFD was having a go at the family, but the groups who actively push anti-vaccination agendas.

#18 greatwon2

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

Poor poor boy sad.gif I didn't actually know how bad tetanus was ..perhaps they should have graphic descriptions in pamphlets to give out to each new parent on each illness we immunize for.
I had a bad reaction to the tetanus triple immunization as a kid and had gone without the rest of them and only risked getting the booster last year as whooping cough was everywhere and we had a new born. I wasn't overly concerned about the fact that i wasn't covered for tetanus either it was all about whooping cough. I'm so glad i did now after reading that article..no reaction what so ever to the jab not even a sore arm like i was expecting.

I wish people would stop paying attention to randoms off the internet and listen to the medical professionals when it comes to this, the argument is their trying to do what they think is best for their child ..but i don't understand how being at risk of catching a terrible disease is the best thing?

#19 PigNewton

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:26 PM

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I wonder how many people still thinks it's better to go through the disease and get immunity that way? That poor child must have suffered through the most awful pain.

There IS no tetanus immunity you can get, so you can go through it, almost die, then 6 months later get it again. And the 10% fatality rate now? 50 years ago the fatality rate was a sh*tload higher than that, and 40 years before that I don't think you survived it at all.
I get not immunising against chicken-pox or flu, really, I do. But tetanus? Seriously? Even all that stuff about the vaccine giving you a virus wouldn't hold true, because it's NOT A VIRUS.
QUOTE
Yep. I have a friend who had polio before immunisations were commonplace. Now she has post polio and although she is as active as she can be, her muscles are deteriorating and things get harder and harder for her as time goes on.

My grandma had childhood friends who contracted it and died, PP, and she also knew of a local family who lost all ten of their kids to diptheria. But hey, at least they didn't have to worry about adverse effects back then.

Cue someone coming in to say that getting angry and insulting doesn't get anyone onside. What I've always wanted to say (but never have) in one of these threads is it's going to take a bunch of kids dying or being permanently disabled to make them see sense, and unfortunately by then it will be too late and they will have sacrificed their kids on the altar of their "informed research". I'd like to see them spouting off about "sheeple" then.

#20 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:35 PM

Quite honestly Redkris, I don't give a crap about offending anti-vaxers, I completely agree with what you are saying. They need to get out of their ivory towers and realise the real threat of not vaccinating.

#21 Another one

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:39 PM

There was a poster a few months ago who linked her own blog where she wrote:

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I would prefer my kids to get measles, and yes, even polio. Seventy-five percent of polio cases are a-symptomatic. That means the vast majority of people who contract polio show no symptoms, no high fevers, no aching bodies, nothing. They have the disease and don't even know they have it. Of the 25% who do get, only 1% actually get suffer the paralysis everyone associates with polio.

I have no evidence - so don't ask me to prove my theory, I cannot prove it. Just as Ignaz Semmelweis couldn't prove that bacteria lives on our skin, which was why surgeons should wash their hands before performing surgery; to lessen the likelihood of post op mortality (he was put in an asylum for his unproven theory, only to have it proved two years after he died).


How do you get through to her!!  In that same thread people posted pictures of iron lung wards, talked about family members living with post polio etc.  She maintained her view!

Edited by Lil Chickens, 22 December 2012 - 08:32 PM.


#22 Feral_Pooks

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:40 PM

What a hard lesson to learn- and it's the poor child suffering most, who had no choice. So preventable and so sad. I hope, I really hope that they are able to convince some people not to make their mistake. I hope that boy has a speedy and full recovery. It really saddens me how a tiny minority of nutbags have been able to convince so many people. And the parents work in the health field? Bizarre.

#23 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:41 PM

oomg.gif

I suspect the only way it would get through to her is if she had one of her loved ones suffer one of these terrible diseases.

#24 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:41 PM

Dp.

Edited by Jemstar, 22 December 2012 - 02:42 PM.


#25 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:44 PM

There are plenty of 'healthcare professionals' who are not supportive of vaccination. Usually alternative therapy forms of 'healthcare'.

Edited by Jemstar, 22 December 2012 - 02:45 PM.





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