Jump to content

EB HELP - 16 months & sleep hell


  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

#1 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:40 PM

Ok I am such a mess with this I will give you the basic info and see where we go,
Just before the move DS2 (16 months) started to climb out of his cot. After a couple of falls I took side off and hoped for best, well now I am up 2, 3, 4 times a night, in and out of bed, knocking on door crying out, crying for ages some nights. he does not cosleep well - never has and only one of my 3 that doesn't - it is a a trial to get DD out of my bed and DS1 still climbs in occasionally.
I don't know what to do, I can't put the side back he will hurt himself, I can't keep him in or convince him that is his bed now, I am tired and out of ideas.
And I won't even start on the tantrums will save that for another day

#2 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:58 PM

Please oh wise and wonderous women of EB I am desperate

#3 Riotproof

Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:03 PM

Hi there, I would put a safety gate at the door, and then work on whatever settling technique you want. Did he self settle in teh cot previously? In that case, you might just try popping out for a a time (gradually increasing) to get a drink of water, go to the toilet, etc..

#4 Alpha_Chook

Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:12 PM

I really have no advice but wanted to say I am dreading taking the side off Eamons cot. I hate the thought of him walking around the house all night and coming in and out of our room etc. He isn't climbing out of the cot so he can stay there till he does!!

#5 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:17 PM

He has never been th ebest sleeper - but yes would self settle in his cot before.
I can not take many more nights of this he seems at 6s and 7s he wants to sleep but can't it is all too much but I simply cannot risk him having a bad fall from cot.
The thing is he wakes and starts to scream and scream and scream.... it takes forever to settle him and letting him have a walk around doesn't seem to help he is screaming in the living room then...
This is when riding solo sucks so freaking badly

#6 Feral Becky

Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:20 PM

Can he lay in his bed and you put a mattress on the floor and rest or sleep there until he goes to sleep?

Edited by LindsayMK, 21 December 2012 - 10:21 PM.


#7 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

LindsayMK, I have actually got the cot mattress just on the slats on the floor now so it is a little raised but not a lot with a few doonas on the floor that I lay on but he just cries and lays on me, gets off walks around, cries, lays on the floor, tantrums, hits me when I try and hold him, cries, although by this time both of us are crying - seems like a good idea to join in) cries falls asleep and by then the sun is peeking in..... I got nothing......

#8 Riotproof

Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

3keiki, I would start sitting in the room near the bed while he falls asleep. Play on your phone or something. Then gradually, you can move towards the door and eventually do the leaving for a few minutes trick. He is young to be without the side, but it's a safety issue. 18 months is a peak separation anxiety time and what you posted really does sound like that. For him, going to sleep is the ultimate separation from you, he doesn't realise that you will be there in the morning.
You could also try tightening your bedtime routine to be more predictable and adding in keywords. I say to DS ".. and now the story is finished, it's time for nigh night, I will see you in the morning". He even says the "morning".

The other thing you might try is sleeping bags, DS couldn't ever climb out of his cot and I think the bag stopped him. It depends on whether you think he will try no matter what.



#9 NunSoFeral

Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (Riotproof @ 21/12/2012, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The other thing you might try is sleeping bags, DS couldn't ever climb out of his cot and I think the bag stopped him. It depends on whether you think he will try no matter what.


Oh man, you must be totally exhausted.
I second the sleeping bag.
Pop him in, cot mattress on ground if need be, side back up to hightest level.
He can't climb out that way.
Use same words and same routine, every night

ETA: Friend of mine introduced her boy to a sleeping bag at a later age and introduced it a s a 'fun" thing -camping out in the cot, using a torch, eating marshmallows, etc.

He wouldn't sleep without one after that.

Might be worth a shot?

Also - hope you both get some relief soon. The whole sleep-deprivation and distressed child and mum thing gets pretty freakin old, pretty freaking fast.

Edited by gettheetoanunnery, 21 December 2012 - 10:38 PM.


#10 Riotproof

Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:41 PM

Oh, and I forgot to say, do you think there is any chance of an ear infection? I totally missed my son's first one because I blamed it on teething. It wasn't until he had some discharge in his ear that I freaked out and took him to the Dr. I felt so guilty.

#11 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:37 AM

Thanks PP's I am thinking maybe I should get a toddler bed for him.... something with half sides so he feels secure, I have got a baby nurse coming out from canberra tonight and tomorrow night to help (costs a bomb but sometimes I have no other options) so I can get some sleep.
I have not had these kinds of issues with my other 2 so I am lost....

#12 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:55 PM

Oh dear I feel like an idiot - I see the tops of two molars today.....
The baby nurse was a bust! I sent her home she couldn't cope with him at all




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Natural pain relief in the early stages of labour

While managing labour pains on your own can be daunting, there are a number of natural pain relief options to help you cope until you are admitted to hospital.

Chinese woman gives birth to quintuplets

After six years of trying for a baby, a couple’s dreams have come true many times over after the mum gave birth to quintuplets this week.

Five-year-old shoots nine-month-old brother dead

A nine-month-old baby boy died on Monday after he was shot in the head by his five-year-old brother in their grandfather's home.

'Is that baby yours?'

She is my daughter. I gave birth to her. I nurse her. But she doesn't have any of my genes.

Episiotomy in childbirth: not just 'a little snip'

Episiotomies have a place in maternity care – and can occasionally save lives – but should not be performed routinely.

Toddler aggression not caused by language delays after all: study

The logic was that children who don’t have the language to fully express themselves will lash out when they’re misunderstood. Not anymore.

Why we chose to adopt a child with Down sydrome

Everyone in foster care (and really in life) has something that makes them more vulnerable. We just know what our son's is.

Object of desire

Curvy mums make clever babies

Scientists appear to have discovered why women have evolved to have more curves than men – shapely thighs and bottoms lead to healthier babies.

'We'll make sure they know how much she loved them'

A first-time mum will never get to hold her four newborns, dying shortly after giving birth to the quadruplets.

The baby names NZ knocked back in 2014

A New Zealander has tried to name their baby Senior Constable but didn't get away with it - and numbering children is also a no-no.

How can you go into labour without knowing you're pregnant?

For most of us, the idea that a woman could carry a child to full-term without knowing she is pregnant is mind-boggling.

Will you get to the hospital in time?

Worrying your baby will be delivered by the roadside is a common concern for many mothers-to-be. So how likely are you to be caught short?

Video: Funny 'Lips Are Moving' parody just for mums

Meghan Trainor's song 'Lips Are Moving' was already a hit, but now it's been turned into a hilarious parody that is set to be very popular with frustrated mums everywhere.

Out with the clutter

Decluttering by the numbers: take the 30-day challenge

Forget the 5:2 diet - Twitter's 30-day declutter challenge will have your house back in shape in no time (well, a month).

Parents, don't be too hard on yourselves

We need to stop damning parents of today, and embrace their appetite for knowledge instead.

Is my baby normal?

There are chubby Buddha babies and there are thin, smaller babies. Neither are right or wrong, they are all 'normal'.

When an older sibling starts school

When one child goes to ‘big school’ and leaves the other behind, it can cause deep upset. Here's how to make the transition easier.

Stray cat saves abandoned baby

They say dogs are man's best friend, but one cat has proven felines can be just as devoted to their human companions.

How strangers are helping a mum's wish come true after her death

A mum of five, Liz Marquez wanted to breastfeed her premmie son for a year. So when she passed away suddenly, her friends - and strangers - stepped in to help.

Win an Octonauts prize pack

To celebrate the launch of Octonauts Live! Operation Reef Shield, a spectacular underwater adventure live on stage, we are giving away an amazing Octonauts prize pack to one lucky fan.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Stars help save choking babies

It's an important lesson to learn, but one that busy new mums and dads might overlook until it's too late.

New Girl star Zooey Deschanel pregnant

Actress Zooey Deschanel is expecting her first child with her producer boyfriend Jacob Pechenik.

16 times 'dad reflexes' saved the day

Of course, in some cases they may be the ones who actually got their child into a precarious position in the first place, but we'll ignore that for now.

Couple's 'non-traditional' pregnancy announcement goes viral

Knowing you are not the father of your pregnant wife's baby would usually indicate a rocky relationship ahead for traditional parents.

The trials and tribulations of identical triplet newborns

Pip Donnelly is still playing spot the difference with her newborn identical triplets, Isabelle, Georgina and Frankie.

Win an Octonauts prize pack

To celebrate the launch of Octonauts Live! Operation Reef Shield, a spectacular underwater adventure live on stage, we are giving away an amazing Octonauts prize pack to one lucky fan.

Earthquake baby thriving five years on

Jenny Alexis is lucky to be alive after spending four days buried in the rubble of the 2010 Haitian earthquake, but now she's a thriving five year old.

Please don't say I'm lucky because I was adopted

On the one hand I was having a regular life with friends and sports and sleepovers and school. But I was also always wondering: Did my mother love me? What was wrong with me?

An open letter to non-parents who offer advice on child-rearing

Kitty, when you’re the parent of my child you’re welcome to wade in with an opinion – but until then, I’d prefer you to have a supportive ear and a glass of wine ready.

Couple arrested over baby gun video

A US couple faces charges after investigators say they found mobile phone videos showing the woman's 12-month-old daughter putting a handgun in her mouth.

NSW Health dumps 10-year limit on frozen embryos

A 10-year time limit on storing frozen embryos that were created with donor sperm has been dropped by the NSW government.

How my happy-go-lucky husband became a monster

Sharan Nicholson-Rogers watched her husband change from a happy-go-lucky police officer into an unpredictable man prone to violent and emotional outbursts.

Dads-to-be experience hormonal changes, too

Dads-to-be experience hormonal changes in line with their pregnant partners, a new study shows.

'They were just doing their job': mum of toddler killed in police chase gone wrong

"They were just doing their job. I feel so sorry for them. It is all just too sad."

Miscarriages to be formally recognised by NSW government

Women who miscarry will be able to obtain an optional "recognition of loss" certificate as a formal recognition of their often heartbreaking loss.

Cafe cubby house 'too noisy' for neighbours

Teenage parties, domestic disputes, or raucous late night pubs are the things that usually come to mind when you think neighbourhood noise complaints.

Dad films baby playing with snake

Most parents would not consider a snake an appropriate playmate for their baby, but a US dad who filmed his daughter playing with a python has defended himself against criticism.

Clever breastfeeding products

Check out this range of products designed to help make your breastfeeding journey more enjoyable, manageable and convenient.

Win with The Boxtrolls

To celebrate the release of The Boxtrolls on 3D Blu-ray, DVD & Digital with UltraViolet, we're giving you the chance to win a Boxtroll stationary package and DVD.

 

School Term 1

Get after-school care sorted

Wait lists too long at OSHC? Use www.findababysitter.com.au to meet local nannies now.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.