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#1 JRA

Posted 21 December 2012 - 07:54 PM

DS is 10 now. A very happy, relatively sensitive child. He is known by all for his huge smile.

But there is a monster underneath the smile. Even at 10 now, if he doesn't have food regularly he becomes that monster. When this happens, the world is a horrible place, he can't do anything, everyone hates him and well he becomes  a terrible child. Give him food, a banana, or something, within 5 minutes he is human again.

I can understand this - nearly, at 2, or even 4, but at 10 it is now becoming a concern, I think.

When he is in the place he really is just horrible to all, including himself. He becomes so intense he decides he is not hungry, only now can we just get through to him that he needs to eat.

Am I the only one who has a 10yo that cannot control there behaviour if they need food?

Edited by JRA, 21 December 2012 - 08:08 PM.

#2 mez70

Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

I am 42 tomorrow and I am a total cow and horrible person if I don't have food at regular intervals.
I actually have issues with my blood Sugar levels though not a diabetic. When my blood sugars crash too low I am horrific to be around especially if I have been busy and not around people then all of a sudden it hits......

I have been making a huge effort as late to eat smaller more frequent meals as well as reducing added sugars etc and it has mad e huge difference to myself. Thankfully hubby and others now know me well enough they can tell me to eat something NOW..

I would be ensuring that he has a low GI diet as that keeps the sugars on a more even keel and eat something every couple of hours... and see if that makes a difference..

Also keep a food and mood diet to see if there are any patterns that jump out or specific times of day and as much as I hate to say it as my DS is 11 don't discount the commencement of hormonal changes as well... Good luck. It could be worth a general check up with your GP to discuss it all as well

#3 kyrrie

Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:25 PM

I think you've just described my DS, except he is 7.

#4 *Caro*

Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:31 PM

My husband always makes sure I have snacks in my handbag before we go out - I turn into a right cow without regular food! My mum and my kids are all the same.  My dad however can go all day without food and not notice.  

I think its just how we are made, not much you can do about it, except talk to him and educate him on eating small and often.

#5 SlinkyMalinki

Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:32 PM

I'd be getting his blood sugar levels checked, I've always been like this, though it wasn't picked up until I was a teenager.

#6 kay11

Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:34 PM

I'm like this. I turned out to have an underlying immune system condition (not diabetes) that caused it.

#7 wombat

Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

DD is 11 and has always been like this.  She eats huge amounts and obviousily has a really fast metabolism.  The catch cry in our house since she was a baby has always been - feed her quick - whenever she starts to get a cranky.  We laugh about it because even she knows it's true!  I think it's probably quite normal for people with a really fast metabolism.  I wouldn't worry too much if I were you, just keep the food rolling!

#8 Coffeegirl

Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:47 PM

****!!   Just lost a huge post, but here is the gyst of it.

JRA - you could be describing my DS and DH to a tee!  DS was so bad at points we were worried he was bordering on psychosis.   DH just becomes a total a*s*hole, but I've learned the symptoms and not to 'bite' at his tirades.  I instead say ' have you eaten!" And he calms down and realises that he needs something quick., even a friggen Mentos or a couple of tictacs will help.  

The GP ran a number of tests and DS is borderline hypoglycemic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia

Which is different then my father who could be diabetic hypoglycemic and go into a coma  sad.gif

The GP suggested small meals/snacks every 2-3 hours that were low GI and helped keep DS on an 'even keel' and this helps alot, but I still keep Mentos in my bag for the unexpected delays!

I notice it more when our daily patterns are out of whack. Especially during school holidays or travelling.

#9 JRA

Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:00 PM

Thanks everyone. Your answers have been very reassuring. DH will also be really pleased to see them. He often gets the brunt of the episodes

Coffeegirl: Your comment about worrying about psycosis. He just becomes a different child, with no sense of reality at all. It think like you, it is when there is no timetable. I think/hope at school it is better as he has clear breaks to eat, we are not as careful on holidays, but I must admit by now you would think we could sort this timing better

Wombat: we too have the "feed him quick"

It is quite possibly just a fast metabolism, my sisters are a bit similar, and eat like horses and well lets say, don't look like me.

Following up with the gp may be an idea, but I do like the idea of just having mentos or something. A banana works well, but not the easiest thing to always have. We do try and do low gi most of the time, but of course, sometimes are not as careful as we should be.

#10 Expelliarmus

Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:56 PM

Lots and lots and lots of children are like this. Frequently at school if I have to call for assistance for a child who is misbehaving, then the first attempt to settle the child is to feed them. For a significant number of children it resolves the problem.

#11 JRA

Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:59 PM

thx howdo

#12 Zesty

Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:04 AM

My son is exactly as you described, he is nearly 10. I would also like to add dehydration into the mix as well.  If it does make you feel any better, my brother who is nearing 50yo is also like this.

Whilst DS isn't as bad as he was when he was younger, he does become more sensitive and emotional. Whilst I may realise the issue, he often denies that he is hungry or thirsty and I have to thrust water and food upon him. Again, once he is fed and watered, all is calm in the kingdom.

#13 Holidayromp

Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:13 PM

When I am on a low GI diet (not diabetic) I need to eat small amounts of food regularily.  If I go too long between eating I get really nasty.   My mother is the same - she get sulky and snappy and when she eats she is back to normal.  When I was out working I carried a snack box full of low gi healthy snacks and I would grap a handful of something when I felt hungry.  It worked.

#14 Chchgirl

Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:15 PM

One of my friend's sons was like that! He is not so much now he is 12, but it's only slowly stopping now...frustrated the hell out of her as her daughter was nothing like that and it drove her batty!

#15 Canberra Chick

Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:39 PM

I'm 39 and like this. I try not to clothes shop just before a meal as I will make awful decisions.

Just make sure there are snacks around and encourage him to be more self aware of why he is in a bad mood. It took me until my late 20s to make the connection...

#16 LittleListen

Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:43 PM

I have insulin resistance and I get like this. I also get like this when I have binged on sugar and I'm coming down off the high - it is also caused by the IR. DH can almost pinpoint when/what I last ate depending on my behaviour. It is mostly taken care of with a Low GI diet.

#17 Little Bo Peep

Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:07 PM

My DD is like this, as am I and my DH.  If she is having a strop we either feed her or stick her in the shower. She has decent appetite and a tiny frame and just needs to eat often.  She also reacts very dramatically to colours and additives.  Keeps us on out toes ;-)  My husband and I also have small frames and fast metabolisms and can both get pretty snarky and moody when we need food.  I don't think people grow out of it to be honest, maybe just become a little better at recognising the signs (sometimes LOL).

#18 red_squirrel

Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:20 PM

DS is like this but so am I.
As far as I know our blood sugars are fine. We just tend to get distracted in a task and forget to eat. It's not pretty.

#19 Justaduck

Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:29 PM

I am like this...if I haven't eaten in a while I will feel feral and snappy

#20 katiecoop

Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:34 PM

You've just described every male in my family tree! They don't grow out of it in my family.

#21 kissy10

Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:36 PM

DS7 is like this too.

#22 EBeditor

Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:45 PM

DS is an absolute grumpy bum in the morning until he eats. Stomping feet, miserable etc. Then he doesn't want to eat because he is grumpy. When we can finally get some toast or cereal in him he's perfectly fine.

#23 tick

Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:45 PM

I'm like this, so is DD1. She will go crazy and deny being hungry or thirsty and just have epic tantrums until I get something into her. I've discovered she will usually agree to some cordial or juice which brings her back to base enough so that she will actually eat properly. I never leave the house without snacks!

#24 Mootmoot

Posted 22 December 2012 - 07:12 PM

Some of my family have what's called low renal threshold, where blood sugar spills over from the kidneys into the bloodstream.  It can affect alertness and mood - my Dad always carries snacks and knows to eat frequently or he just flags.

Not sure if it's similar (more lack of energy than the grumps), but maybe another avenue to explore, OP.

Edited by Joey11, 22 December 2012 - 07:13 PM.

#25 SeaPrincess

Posted 22 December 2012 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE (mez70 @ 21/12/2012, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am 42 tomorrow and I am a total cow and horrible person if I don't have food at regular intervals.
I actually have issues with my blood Sugar levels though not a diabetic. When my blood sugars crash too low I am horrific to be around especially if I have been busy and not around people then all of a sudden it hits......

I have been making a huge effort as late to eat smaller more frequent meals as well as reducing added sugars etc and it has mad e huge difference to myself. Thankfully hubby and others now know me well enough they can tell me to eat something NOW..

I would be ensuring that he has a low GI diet as that keeps the sugars on a more even keel and eat something every couple of hours... and see if that makes a difference..

This is me too.  Sometimes DH will just put a plate of food in front of me and tell me to eat.  I can control my mood if I feel myself passing that threshold, but if I'm busy or distracted and don't notice, I turn into a crankypants.

Low GI diet, and a discussion with the GP are probably a good idea.

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