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#1 Livsh

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:36 AM

EB, I hope you will all join me in collective impotent outrage at this article!

Yes it was published in the national review which is an american conservative publication and as such should be viewed with scorn...but the fact that woman could write this, and a publication could publish it just makes me want to perform violent acts on people!

I think this woman needs to spend a bit of time on here, there is no way a 'feminised' environment is passive or weak!

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335...-nro-symposium#

#2 raone

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:41 AM

No words whatsoever. Is this lady from the stone age. I think a football playing male would have died just as easily against an assualt weapon.

#3 Cranky Old Woman

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:45 AM

Ah, of course, a husky 12 year old boy could stop a bullet in its tracks probably catching in his teeth and tackling a deranged killer barehanded.  wacko.gif Crazy doesn't even begin to describe that woman.

#4 countrymel

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:45 AM

For once in my life the 'comments' under an article have soothed rather than further inflamed my fury.

Moronic writer writes moronic article.  But at least it seemed to have shaken some sane folk out of the woodwork to refute her.  Nice.

#5 premmie_29weeks

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:47 AM

I don't think bravery has anything to do with gender. But I do understand where she is coming from regarding the 20 year old boy with no job, no continuing education living at home and being idle. Idlesness and social isolation are a pretty horrible combination, particularly in the gunman who seems to be known to already have some mental health issues...

#6 hayleymumof3

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:51 AM

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But I do understand where she is coming from regarding the 20 year old boy with no job, no continuing education living at home and being idle. Idlesness and social isolation are a pretty horrible combination, particularly in the gunman who seems to be known to already have some mental health issues...


huh.gif really?  So you think all loners are going to go out and go on a murdering rampage?  huh.gif

You think these crazies are bad I have seen people trying to link this to Vaccinations and anti depressants

http://ssristories.com/index.php

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Is anyone is deluded by thinking the mass shootings in the US r because of the availability of guns? Index 2 SSRI Stories http://ow.ly/g96Bx
  From the Australian Vaccination Network facebook page http://www.facebook.com/avn.living.wisdom

#7 chic mummy

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:53 AM

what a flipping idiot to write something so stupid. she'd be singing a different tune if her children were involved and she'd be writing about how courageous the teachers were. female or not.

#8 Great Dame

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:56 AM

QUOTE (premmie_29weeks @ 20/12/2012, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But I do understand where she is coming from regarding the 20 year old boy with no job, no continuing education living at home and being idle. Idlesness and social isolation are a pretty horrible combination, particularly in the gunman who seems to be known to already have some mental health issues...


But her solution was to kick him out of the family home?

Surprisingly the article raised no emotion in me.  It was so ridiculous it wasn't worth my angst.


#9 premmie_29weeks

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:58 AM

I don't mean that at all, just that having no job, no continuing education and nothing to do all day can't be seen as a good thing for anyone. Much less an already socially isolated, unstable and unhappy person.

The rest is garbage...

Edited by premmie_29weeks, 20 December 2012 - 08:59 AM.


#10 hayleymumof3

Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:59 AM

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I don't mean that at all, just that having no job, no continuing education and nothing to do all day can't be seen as a good thing.


ohmy.gif I am going to turn into a mass murder thanks for that warning.

#11 kboomba

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:00 AM

Professor Loganathan
Christopher Bishop
Liviu Lebresco

All male teachers at Virginia Tech who lost their lives in that massacre.

That woman really is crazy.

#12 Expelliarmus

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:00 AM

Examining the school layout after the fact is hardly relevant to teachers trying to protect children during a shooting when they don't know where the gunman is!

You risk running INTO the gunman, not away from, you risk children running off - has she tried to herd 15-25 small children anywhere?!?!? And if you are in your classroom you don't know what's going on and are effectively blind. What honestly did she expect teachers to do with 6 year olds? You can't run with them! They'd be terrified. You cN't creep silently through school corridors checking where the gunman is. Sure, run if you are by yourself - and some of the children did run - right past the gunman - but they did the right thing to hide. Yes 20 children died, but the intercom system activation and hiding the children saved over 400 lives.

That they were female had nothing to do with it. Male teachers would have done the same thing it's part of the drills.

#13 Livsh

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:04 AM

What I particularly loved was that the principle throwing herself at a gunman was 'seemingly' heroic...I assume from that statement that had a man thrown himself at a gunman that would have been LITERALLY heroic...or perhaps she thinks men have superpowers....maybe she was confusing the real world with Thor comics?

Ugh, I'm just disgusted. The women in that school were bloody heroic, to have this mouth breather negate their actions because they have vaginas is beyond appalling!

#14 TheRedWoman

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:04 AM

Just another armchair expert that probably watches a little too much 'I Survived'.

#15 ZombieMum

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:04 AM

Wow.


I guess she's missed one important point when she talks about no adult males around the school.

How many females have been behind mass shootings?



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Parents of sick children need to be realistic about them.


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You simply can’t give a non-working, non-school-enrolled 20-year-old man free range of your home, much less your cache of weapons. You have to set boundaries. You have to say, “You can’t live here anymore — you’re an adult, and it’s time for you to be a man. We’ll give you all the support you need, but we won’t be enablers.” Unfortunately, the idea of being an “adult” and a “man” once one has reached physical maturity seems to have faded out of our coddling culture.

Can't believe the ignorance in her words!


#16 Jax12

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:04 AM

QUOTE (hayleymumof3 @ 20/12/2012, 06:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ohmy.gif I am going to turn into a mass murder thanks for that warning.

It's pretty obvious she's not saying that these things turn otherwise mentally well or stable people into killers  rolleyes.gif

I certainly know that when I was living on my own, isolated from my family during my long holidays I certainly got very depressed doing nothing all day.

I haven't read the article yet - just responding to the comments.

#17 EsmeLennox

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:07 AM

blink.gif wacko.gif  

That's all I've got.

#18 =R2=

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:10 AM

Those poor families of Newton who will now hear of and read that ridiculous article. What an insult to their lost loved ones.

nno.gif



#19 baddmammajamma

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:19 AM

Ugh.

Ugh!

Ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But then again, look who published it. The National Review?! Say no more!

#20 Brrrroooce!

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:38 AM

I wish the "experts after the fact" would realise that if you weren't there, your opinion means NOTHING.

Everybody wants to prevent it happening again. But gosh.. some sensitivity towards the families, is that too much to ask? I guess so.


#21 purplekitty

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:49 AM

QUOTE (hayleymumof3 @ 20/12/2012, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
huh.gif really?  So you think all loners are going to go out and go on a murdering rampage?  huh.gif

You think these crazies are bad I have seen people trying to link this to Vaccinations and anti depressants

http://ssristories.com/index.php

  From the Australian Vaccination Network facebook page http://www.facebook.com/avn.living.wisdom
I was coming in to mention this as well. Psychiatric drugs and vaccinations are getting the blame  all over the internet.

QUOTE (baddmammajamma @ 20/12/2012, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But then again, look who published it. The National Review?! Say no more!
The NRA symbol and the eulogies for Judge Bork are a dead giveaway.


#22 opethmum

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:54 AM


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Edited by opethmum, 20 December 2012 - 09:56 AM.


#23 squeekums

Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:05 AM

ohmy.gif speachless
what an idiot

#24 archy grousesheila

Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:31 AM

Nice piece in Daily Life about fears of the threat to masculinity in the US.  This idiot woman seems to be one of those he's writing about

#25 OnePinkStar

Posted 20 December 2012 - 11:13 AM

Well I am in trouble, vaccs are up to date, on not one, but two psychiatric drugs, no job etc. best lock me up now.




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