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#1 Skipper*150

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

We just put DS1 (5) and DS2 (2) into the same room and all hell has broken loose! They previously went to sleep within minutes of being put to bed, and I knew there would be some excitement with them being together, but they have consistently been up until 10pm in the 2 weeks since they merged! ohmy.gif
We tried holding DS2 out from his nap so he would be more tired, but it just made it worse.

When we merged them we started a star chart to reward them for staying in their beds, but it is completely empty, even though every morning they come out with eager excitement to see if they earnt the trip to the "special" park (which is a big park that is a bit far away and a real treat, so I thought it would be enough of an incentive). However, I don't know if this is not working because the reward is not immediate - they don't get it until the next day. With everything else we have used charts for, like toilet training, the reward has been instant.

I'm not too worried about the late nights atm, but I don't want it to last or become a habit. mellow.gif I mean, I'm worried they're not getting enough rest as they are still waking by 7, so they're not sleeping in or anything to make up for it. Long term this will be an issue, I'm sure. Not to mention if DH and I want to watch some TV or something, I don't want them coming out...

Need some advice, please!!! huh.gif

#2 Feral-as-Meggs

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:40 PM

Staggered bedtimes until the excitement is over?

#3 libbylu

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

Why don't you let your five year old stay up looking at books in the lounge for half an hour or doing reading with the other parent while the other parent settles the two year old to sleep, and then once in a deep enough sleep, go in and quietly tuck your five year old down.

#4 barrington

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

Ditto to PP, I would stagger the bedtimes for a while.

#5 mama123

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:49 PM

My almost 5 year old and 2 year old boys share a double bed. They go to bed at the same time and we don't normally have a problem. They will sometimes nap at the same time too.

If I find they are getting a little excited I will lie between them and cuddle one of them and tell them it's quiet time now. Once one of them is sleepy enough, I leave them to it.

Hope you find something that works for you.

#6 lozoodle

Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:30 PM

I stagger bedtime otherwise my girls are like that

2yo goes down at 7, 4yo at 7.30

#7 ~ky~

Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:09 PM

Definitely stagger bedtimes.

Edited by ~ky~, 19 December 2012 - 09:09 PM.


#8 rocketsurgeon

Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:04 AM

On the occasions they've shared a room we've staggered bedtimes too. Our 2 year old just gets way too excited and wants to wrestle, sing, cuddle, tell stories etc our 4 year old likes to tell his brother to go to sleep but he doesn't really resist his brother's attempts to play. The only way to get around it is to make sure the little one is asleep first.

#9 lizzzard

Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:57 AM

Yep - I'm just going to give the same advice as PPs. We had exactly the same issue when ours first started sharing, but staggering the bedtimes worked a treat. Occasionally the younger one stays awake until his sister comes in and if they are particularly hyper they might chat then, but it's rare now. On the up side, they love sharing which is very sweet.

#10 librablonde

Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:20 AM

QUOTE (libbylu @ 19/12/2012, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why don't you let your five year old stay up looking at books in the lounge for half an hour or doing reading with the other parent while the other parent settles the two year old to sleep, and then once in a deep enough sleep, go in and quietly tuck your five year old down.

That's what we do here as well. My kids share bedrooms too. DD aged 4 goes to bed and about 1 hour later DS goes to bed. He reads silently in the lounge room to himself during that hour. This tactic works about 80% of the time, and the other 20% is when DD doesn't go to sleep so they screech and jump around like monkeys until they fall asleep on their floor around 10pm......


#11 leisamd

Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:26 AM

My boys are in together, ages 5 & 2.  They are generally very good about going to sleep.  If they play up, mama loses her $#!t  wink.gif

Or, maybe you already do, you could read to them for a little while, put on an audio book or some calming music, making sure the room is dark...

#12 Kay1

Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:35 AM

Our kids have always listened to cds at bed time. When we put them in the same room together they started taking turns to choose the cd. We have a range of story cds, some with music at the end. DS2 (4y) is always asleep before the first cd ends and DS1 sometimes puts another one on or reads a book for a few minutes before he falls asleep.

#13 BronR

Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:02 AM

Our 2 (now 7 and almost 5) have shared since the younger one went from being in our room aged about 6 months.

We didn't exactly stagger bed time once they were at the ages you are  talking about but read DD's (younger one) stories in their room with her in bed. DS was read stories on the sofa in the living room. Almost always at the age yours are DD would be asleep before DS came in to go to bed. We still do stories separately 90% of the time as they at at different stages and like different things. DD wouldn't be pleased with half an hour reading a dinosaur encyclopaedia night after night after night.

Nowadays they muck about occasionally (like last night, being the first night of school holidays in NSW) but mostly they don't fool around or get up. Sometimes they get into bed with each other though. I don't mind that as long as they are not giggling and being silly.

We also have an iPod and docking station in their room and they will have a story or some going to sleep music (soft classical stuff, no wiggles).



#14 Skipper*150

Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:18 AM

Thanks, I really appreciate the advice. Tonight we will try staggering and see how we go original.gif rolleyes.gif

#15 katrina24

Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:27 AM

Yep, we staggered too at that age. Worked really well when the 5 yo started school. That 1/2 hour was for her reader, looking over homework etc. we called it her special time. The little one never minded, she loved going to sleep and having stories in her bed.

#16 Bluenomi

Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:36 AM

My parents had this issue with my sisters. The only thing that worked was putting them back into seperate rooms!

#17 melaine

Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:13 AM

For us - we had to separate our boys.

Our 5 year old is asleep in minutes in his own room, he 3 year old takes ages to settle. In the same room the 3 year old keeps 5 year old awake, then they're awake early in the morning.

Staggering bedtimes didn't work because the younger one ended up going to bed too late - then still taking time to settle.




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