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#1 ThreeBananas

Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

Hi,
I have 4 kids, they have all been vaccinated. There is chickenpox going around their school and one of my boys came out in spots (diagnosed as chickenpox by a dr) 18 days ago. I kept him home for a week.

Today another one has come out in spots. As they are infectious 2 days before the spots appear, today is day 18 of the (up to) 21 day incubation period of contact with my first son.

What I am wondering is whether my other 2 kids will be in the clear after Friday (day 21) or whether the 21 day incubation starts again now with my second child's illness?

I am obviously most concerned about Christmas Day where there will be adults and a baby who have not had chickenpox. I am hoping the one that has it now will be not contagious by then too- 7 days to go!

Bloody chickenpox grrrr!  mad.gif

I will consult with a doctor on Thursday but just wondering whether anyone had any knowledge/experience in this area.

Thanks!

#2 ~~~

Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:40 PM

Would a blood test show if they were already infectious (but before spots appear etc)?

#3 Guest_AllegraM_*

Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:45 PM

No advice but must wanted to say I feel your pain. DS came out in spots last Friday and while he will be non-infectious at Christmas, I feel bad when I think of all the places I went with him in the two day pre-spots infectious period. This included lining up with other kids and babies for santa photos, plus two playdates with babies under 18 months. I have let the playdate mums know but can't do anything about the strangers in the santa line.

#4 mandala

Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:51 PM

Try calling your state's MCH line. They were really helpful when DS was potentially exposed at daycare with working out the incubation period and whether other kids we'd been in contact with were at risk.

#5 B.feral3

Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:56 PM

I don't know the logistics but my DS had Chicken Pox at his second Christmas (1 year 2 weeks old). From memory, by the time the spots are dry, they are no longer contagious but don't quote me.

The worst thing about it was the I didn't get a Santa photo which I really wanted because his first Christmas he spent in hospital so obviously I didn't have one then either. If i'd put him on Santa's lap, every kid after him would have caught it!! The good thing was that he avoided the chicken pox immunisation!!

#6 SeaPrincess

Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:03 PM

When DS1 (vaccinated) got chicken pox at kindy, he came out I spots on Thursday and they had fully crusted over by the following Monday and his teacher was happy to have him at school. DH and DD (both unvaccinated) came down with it on the same day just over 2 weeks later.

DS2 and I both didn't get it.  He was vaccinated and I had it as a child.

Edited by SeaPrincess, 18 December 2012 - 09:04 PM.


#7 Holidayromp

Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

I have natural immunity to chicken pox so no issue here.  DD1, DD2 and DS have all been vacinated.  DH had them as a kid.

Don't feel bad about who you may have infected because by the time the spots come out the most infectious period has passed.  There is no way you would have known.

#8 Beags

Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:47 PM

What I am wondering is whether my other 2 kids will be in the clear after Friday (day 21) or whether the 21 day incubation starts again now with my second child's illness?

I am obviously most concerned about Christmas Day where there will be adults and a baby who have not had chickenpox. I am hoping the one that has it now will be not contagious by then too- 7 days to go!
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If your other 2 kids don't get it from your first infected child, then technically they could get it from your second child, however it's quite contagious and therefore I would think that if they escaped it the first time they would be in the clear due to having sufficient immunity from the vaccine, but no guarantees. The spots are full of virus particles until they crust over, so be careful! Due to being vaccinated they should have only mild cases and will hopefully recover quickly, for your sake and theirs!

#9 FeralZombieMum

Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:00 PM

Incubation period starts again, but they could come out with them at any minute.


About 13 years ago it went right through my DD's creche (before vaccination) and after 2 months, I thought DD was in the clear. She finally came down with them - I think she was the last one at creche to catch them.

A couple of years ago I had my other 3 kids come down with chicken pox - they all caught them off class mates. I think there was about 3 or 4 days between child 1 and child 3 coming out in spots.

#10 erindiv

Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:06 PM

It's going around here too, apparently. DD had them just recently but amazingly DS didn't. Have now heard of a few cases in my friends' kids.

I was told that once they crust over they're no longer contagious.

21 day incubation starts from the time the most recent one has become spotty. So every time a new case appears, if you have other kids who haven't had it yet, they are potentially contagious for the next few weeks. Then that starts over if one catches it and not another, etc etc.

I feel for you OP sad.gif I was glad DD's cleared up.

edit to add: DD is vaccinated but she still had a horrific case, she was absolutely covered on both arms and legs.

Edited by erindiv, 18 December 2012 - 10:07 PM.


#11 Leggy

Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:29 PM

AFAIK potential contagious period starts again with each new case, I'm afraid.

Apparently, my great-grandmother used to get around this by putting all 6 of her children into the same bed for a day whenever one of them came down with one of those kinds of diseases, just so it didn't stretch out over 3 or 4 months  rolleyes.gif

#12 maybeonemore

Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:51 PM

Oh no how horrible OP. Unfortunatly the infectious period starts again from each new case.

If it were me i wouldnt be going to Christmas lunch where young babies are concerned or even adults that havent had it. sad.gif

#13 red_squirrel

Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:03 PM

As others have said the incubation period would start again. I would also assume the other children will come down with it in the coming days weeks.

#14 ThreeBananas

Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:44 PM

Thanks everyone.

Aarr its so frustrating- you think they are pretty unlikely to get these things when they are vaccinated but obviously not! At least they get a milder version but still so contagious! Its just the worst time of year for it.

Yes, think we will have to miss Christmas lunch sad.gif

I'm worried about my 5 month old actually. I'm hoping that he will get my antibodies as I am breastfeeding. Has anyone had any experience with how bad chickenpox in a baby is?

Leggy, that's an interesting strategy!

#15 maybeonemore

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE (ThreeBananas @ 19/12/2012, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks everyone.

Aarr its so frustrating- you think they are pretty unlikely to get these things when they are vaccinated but obviously not! At least they get a milder version but still so contagious! Its just the worst time of year for it.

Yes, think we will have to miss Christmas lunch sad.gif

I'm worried about my 5 month old actually. I'm hoping that he will get my antibodies as I am breastfeeding. Has anyone had any experience with how bad chickenpox in a baby is?

Leggy, that's an interesting strategy!


My DD was not as young as yours she was 12 months when she got them, i thought it was a reaction to her 12 month jabs but nope chickenpox. Vaccination is at 18 months, dont want to scare you but it was HORRIBLE! She was covered in them from head to toe and her face was the worst, she screamed blue murder for a few days before i took her back to the dr to ask what i could give her so we could both get some sleep. Ended up getting Pain Stop which is like panadine forte for kids which made her drowsy and we all finally had some sleep. It was the worst as you cant tell them not to scratch etc as they just dont know. I hope your 5 month old doesnt get them but probably will. So sorry OP.

#16 cesca

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE
I'm worried about my 5 month old actually. I'm hoping that he will get my antibodies as I am breastfeeding. Has anyone had any experience with how bad chickenpox in a baby is?


DD was 10 months when she got them, DS got them around the same time - he was 2.  In NZ we don't vaccinate against chickenpox - it's still seen as a normal childhood disease, so no-one gets too worried about it.

They both had mild cases of it - their eczema was a lot worse than chickenpox ever was.

Good luck!




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