Jump to content

Who should we report this to?


  • Please log in to reply
66 replies to this topic

#1 Feral Becky

Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

When DH and I walk our dogs every morning there is a couple who sleep and seem to live in their car.They are usually parked around the local school but that is neither here nor there, I think this is because there is a lot of parking there. They are Africans and I mention this so Judgy McJudgys can say "What does this have to do with anything?" They appear well dressed and in their 40's I'd say but have heaps of their belongings in the car. Most mornings early they are asleep.

Who do we ring out of concern for these people? The police? Salvation Army?
This has been going of for weeks and I am embarrassed I haven't done anything sooner.

EFC

Edited by LindsayMK, 16 December 2012 - 10:55 AM.


#2 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:57 AM

You don't ring anybody.  It's also irrelevant that they are African--nice of you to tell us so we can all go huh?  Wut?

What do you hope to achieve by ringing anybody?  You could take them some morning coffee and ask them directly if they need or want your help.

#3 JaneDoe2010

Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:58 AM

Can't you approach them if you're concerned? The actual real people?

#4 eilca

Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:59 AM

Balzac, think meatloaf: you took the words right out of my mouth.

#5 Feral Becky

Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:59 AM

I seem to sh*t you for some reason Balzac, not sure why?


#6 babychacha

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:00 AM

Is it against the law? I don't think so but guess I could be wrong.

I don't think there is a need to report it. You could always leave them a typed message with phone numbers and address of people that could help.

#7 BadCat

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:00 AM

Could you go by when they wake up and have a chat with them?  Perhaps ask if they need some help, see if they know where help may be available?

I don't think there is anyone to report to for something like this.

#8 Feral Becky

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:01 AM

QUOTE (JaneDoe2010 @ 16/12/2012, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can't you approach them if you're concerned? The actual real people?



Thank you for a good suggestion. They are usually asleep though when we walk past about 7AM.

#9 JaneDoe2010

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (LindsayMK @ 16/12/2012, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I seem to sh*t you for some reason Balzac, not sure why?


I gave the exact same opinion as Balzac and have no idea who either of you are.

I just think it's sad that people see someone possibly in need and their first thought is "who do I report this to?" rather than just going on over there and having personal contact with them.

"Attitude" removed original.gif

Edited by JaneDoe2010, 16 December 2012 - 12:40 PM.


#10 JaneDoe2010

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE (LindsayMK @ 16/12/2012, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you for a good suggestion. They are usually asleep though when we walk past about 7AM.


Then leave a note. Leave some vouchers. Leave your mobile number.

"Attitude" removed original.gif

Edited by JaneDoe2010, 16 December 2012 - 12:40 PM.


#11 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE (LindsayMK @ 16/12/2012, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I seem to sh*t you for some reason Balzac, not sure why?


I respond to the content, not the poster so I cannot answer that easily.

#12 Feral Grey Mare

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:04 AM

I disagree that their ethnicity is irrelevant. The fact that they appear to be African may indicate that they are new to the community and not aware of avenues of assistance. Perhaps your local community centre might be a good place to start. They may have contacts for welfare organisations or African/Australian community groups. I understand that it is difficult to approach people personally but perhaps , armed with some contact info, you could then approach them to see if they need help. Good on you for caring.

#13 Feral Becky

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:08 AM

OK, calm down people, I meant report in terms of the fact that I am concerned about these people, and want them out of their car and into a house, not that I want them to go to jail or anything. I said to DH on our walk that surely this country can find accommodation for people.

But anyway, make something out of something that isn't there by all means, whatever floats your boat.
I actually thought police at first but didn't want the police to come down too hard on them, ie give a parking fine. Would prefer some charity to maybe help them out and just wanted some suggestions as to the best avenue.

#14 niggles

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:09 AM

I'm not sure what your question is. Do you want to find out how to support them yourself? Or do you want to report them so they will be assisted by someone else?

You could start with the relevant COSS in your state who can probably connect you with an appropriate local sevice provider.

Or the Council to Homeless Persons may be more relevant, though I'm no expert on whether they operate in every state.

http://chp.org.au/

You could of course call the police too for advice.


#15 Fright bat

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:11 AM

I don't think the question is irrelevant or dumb.

What is OP meant so say to them... "Hi there, I have no actual suggestions for where you might seek help, but thought I'd wake you to see if you needed any?"

She's not going to 'report' them. She's trying to find out who she can talk to about getting them help that they may not be aware of.

OP maybe start with the local council, who are after aware of local homeless resources.



#16 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:11 AM

So if you assume that they need to be given info, as I said in my first response, talk to them and see what help they need.

If they are in contact with the local services (and it is probable that they are, most people don't choose to live in a car) it would be upsetting to have a well-meaning stranger give them that info with the implicit assumption in it that they are ignorant, that they don't try hard enough or that they need to move on.

The OP has obviously seen them dressed and awake.  Maybe she could walk the dogs a bit later one morning and stop to chat with them?

#17 rainycat

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:11 AM

LindsayMK, how dare you be concerned for these people. rolleyes.gif

As suggested by a pp, can you leave some info under their windscreen wipers with organisations that may be able to offer assistance if needed.

#18 Feral Becky

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:12 AM

QUOTE (Old Grey Mare @ 16/12/2012, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree that their ethnicity is irrelevant. The fact that they appear to be African may indicate that they are new to the community and not aware of avenues of assistance. Perhaps your local community centre might be a good place to start. They may have contacts for welfare organisations or African/Australian community groups. I understand that it is difficult to approach people personally but perhaps , armed with some contact info, you could then approach them to see if they need help. Good on you for caring.



Thank you for understanding the post and not getting hysterical.
We have a community centre so I will go there tomorrow. Our local MP also is great in pointing people in the right direction. Thanks, it has got my mind going in the right way, I was stuck as to what to do original.gif

#19 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:15 AM

And as your starting point, realise that there are many many homeless people in the Australian community who are homeless because we don't do a good enough job of housing people who are falling through cracks.

It's not as simple as connecting them up to a local support service--if they don't have children or other major needs, then it is perfectly likely that they are on a waiting list of many years to get social housing.

Connections in the community can sometimes help people find places or find a place in the community.  Being homeless is a very isolated way to live--I'm not saying bounce up to them and say I can fix this for you!  But YK?  A simple human connection?

#20 nano-tyrannus

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (LindsayMK @ 16/12/2012, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who do we ring out of concern for these people? The police? Salvation Army?
This has been going of for weeks and I am embarrassed I haven't done anything sooner.
EFC


Maybe your local church group might be able to help?
If you're embarrassed about it (from their's and your point of view), it's more socially acceptable to have a minister approach them and ask if they need assistance

#21 Lifesgood

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:16 AM

OP I've no idea why your post seems to have upset a couple of members and FWIW I think they are being completely absurd. Some people seem to be able to get irritated at just about anything, so don't sweat it.

I think it's nice that you want to help these people. It's possible that they are relatively new to this country based on your observation that they appear African (so yes that WAS a necessary piece of information) and they may not know what help is available.

If I were you I would speak to the Salvos, Mission Australia, whoever is in your area about what services they provide for the homeless.

Then I would leave a note on the car asking if they would like some assistance and offering to help them make contact with the appropriate organisations. Sometimes people don't know where to go for help or are too embarrassed to ask.

My cousin is currently homeless and we don't know where she is living or how she is managing (drug and other problems) and I would love to think someone is helping her to help herself.

#22 Drowningnotwaving

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:18 AM

QUOTE (JaneDoe2010 @ 16/12/2012, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I gave the exact same opinion as Balzac and have no idea who either of you are.

I just think it's sad that people see someone possibly in need and their first thought is "who do I report this to?" rather than just going on over there and having personal contact with them.

And you're right, being African has NOTHING to do with the situation at all, unless you're scared of talking to them in case you catch "the black".


Umm what? See below, I thought it was pretty obvious as to why she mentioned they were African. Not sure how you got that so twisted.  

QUOTE (Old Grey Mare @ 16/12/2012, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree that their ethnicity is irrelevant. The fact that they appear to be African may indicate that they are new to the community and not aware of avenues of assistance. Perhaps your local community centre might be a good place to start. They may have contacts for welfare organisations or African/Australian community groups. I understand that it is difficult to approach people personally but perhaps , armed with some contact info, you could then approach them to see if they need help. Good on you for caring.



#23 JaneDoe2010

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:19 AM

"Attitude" removed original.gif

Edited by JaneDoe2010, 16 December 2012 - 12:41 PM.


#24 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

I'm giving up.

If the OP had left the ethnicity out of her post, would more of you be saying just talk to them?  I'm gobsmacked that the idea of talking to another human being with a cup of coffee is absurd.

#25 JaneDoe2010

Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

This is what I would do:

1. Go to the people and establish a relationship with them.

2. Find out if they have any needs.

3. Help them fill those needs.

"Attitude" removed original.gif

Edited by JaneDoe2010, 16 December 2012 - 12:41 PM.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Win a copy of 'Breakfast, School Run, Chemo'

To celebrate the launch of EB member and contributor Julia's Watson's first book, we have five copies of Breakfast, School Run, Chemo give away.

Electronic tags may keep newborns safe

The possibility of using electronic bracelets for mothers and their newborn babies is being investigated by Adelaide's Women's and Children's Hospital. 

Baby steps: when your little one starts walking

As a parent there are so many milestones to look forward to. That first smile, first word - and, of course, that first step.

Julia Watson's new book 'Breakfast, School Run, Chemo'

Tomorrow my friend Julia launches her first book. And while we're all overjoyed, the success is tinged with sadness. You see, Julia has stage 4 bowel cancer.

How not to name twins

Call me boring, but I don't think that when it comes to choosing my twins' names is the right time to use a good pun.

Fun Sunny Life pool inflatables just for babies

The babies of 2015 will thus be thrilled to paddle their happy baby legs in these brand new flamingo and swan baby inflatables.

Breastfeeding basics for beginners

Here are 10 tips to help make breastfeeding successful and stress free for both you and your baby as quickly as possible.

Girl smothers baby brother with peanut butter

This mum had a big clean up job on her hands.

How to hide those under eye shadows

Pandas are the only ones who benefit from under-eye shadows. If you're not fluffy and cute, you'll just look tired.

Young mum dies after being denied pap smear

A mother has died after she was denied a pap smear because she was deemed "too young" to need it.

Birthday cakes banned at childcare centre

A childcare centre in Sydney has banned birthday cakes after parent complaints about excessive sugar and children with allergies being left out.

Triplet surprise for newlyweds

As the radiographer moved the wand over her abdomen, Shelley King got the surprise of her life.

3 yummy Thermomix baby and toddler recipes

Louise Fulton Keats shares her recipes for babies and toddlers, including corn and sweet pikelets, pumpkin and pea risotto, and cheesy bunny biscuits.

Man arrested over toddler Nikki's death

A 31-year-old man has been arrested over the death of two-year-old Nikki Francis-Coslovich in Mildura.

Adoption ban on pregnant women to be lifted

Pregnant women will no longer be barred from adoption waiting lists in NSW, after the Baird Government decided the practice was discriminatory.

Are you getting enough magnesium?

Magnesium is the fourth most abundant mineral in the body, but we don't talk enough about it and the vital role it plays in great health and energy, as well as disease prevention.

5 workplace lessons for new parents

Take heart in these principles that will transfer seamlessly from the workplace into your new life as a parent.

Mums to follow on Instagram

A creative outlet for many, there are some savvy women complementing their blogs and businesses with riveting Instagrams feeds. We've chosen a few which have bucketloads of appeal; there are some big time players and some smaller local ones, and they each bring their special brand of magic to the Instagram experience.

Review: The Volvo 2015 XC90 SUV has all the safety features your family needs

The new Volvo XC90 SUV's focus on keeping you safe does not come at the expense of comfort in the XC90.

Kim Kardashian reveals she may have hysterectomy

Kim Kardashian has revealed complications during pregnancy means she might have to have a hysterectomy after the birth of her second child.

Why late night snacks wreak havoc on weight loss

 Loath as you may be to admit it, chances are that at some point you have found yourself in the kitchen late at night, devouring food.

Toddler twins pretend to be asleep to fool mum

They say twins have a unique connection. If this cute clip is anything to go by, these toddler sisters like to use their special bond to try to fool their mother.

Dad bags: 10 picks for out and about

Getting out of the house is a big priority in the early years of parenthood and you need to take a well-stocked kit with you. We've chosen 10 of the best nappy bags sure to appeal to dads in style and function.

Win a Mountain Buggy Swift

To celebrate Essential Baby reaching half a million Facebook fans, we have a Mountain Buggy Swift to giveaway to a lucky fan.

Get your FREE Baby & Toddler Show ticket!

Get your free ticket to the Sydney Essential Baby & Toddler Show for September 25-27 - register online now.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Dads who do their share have more sex: study

For women trying to encourage their partners to take more interest in fatherhood, it could be the ultimate incentive.

Think you might have IBS, coeliac disease or Crohn's?

Conditions affecting the gastrointestinal tract are common in modern humans, and many are on the rise - including irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) and coeliac disease.

Couple poses for newborn shoot with adorable puppy

Tired of being asked about their baby-making plans, Australian couple Matt and Abby decided to give a creative answer.

The exercises you know you should be doing (but probably aren't)

I bet your to-do list today is long. But somewhere on that massive list, are you making time for your pelvic floor?

This baby really loves the family cat

Some babies get excited when mum or dad come to get them from their cot after a nap.

Designer kids clothing good enough to eat by Oeuf

Even if you aren't heading to the Northern hemisphere in the next six months, you can't help but love the amazing food-themed knits for babies and kids by cult kids brand Oeuf.

Early exposure to peanuts recommended for allergy prevention

A paediatricians' group is recommending that infants at high risk of peanut allergies be given foods containing peanuts before they turn one.

Home brand foods contain less salt than pricier rivals

Supermarket home brand foods, long derided as cheap and inferior, contain far lower levels of salt than pricier, branded rivals, new research shows.

Nannies for hire, wherever you're flying

Ever dreaded the prospect of a long flight, dreaming about how wonderful it would be for a nanny to entertain the kids?

Couple poses for newborn shoot with adorable puppy

Tired of being asked about their baby-making plans, Australian couple Matt and Abby decided to give a creative answer: with an unusual photo shoot with their 'baby', a groodle (poodle/golden retriever cross) named Humphrey. The talented Elisha from Elisha Minnette Photography caught all the precious shots.

Is it okay to name your baby with a sense of humour?

My husband was sure that Danger was a good option for a boy. And as the pregnancy progressed, it actually started to sound really good.

Woman gives birth after having her own mother's uterus transplanted

In a world first, a healthy baby has been born from the same womb that nurtured his own mother.

So hot right now: double-barrelled baby names on the rise

It's one way to make your baby stand out from the pack – giving them not one, but two first names.

Second time around: is it really better the devil you know?

When I fell pregnant with my second child I was, naturally, very excited. Then it all started to come back to me - and I freaked.

Shopping with kids: breaking the pester-power cycle

You're out shopping with your little one and they're incessantly whining that they want a treat. It's easy to say no ... the first time, at least.

How did we have babies before apps came along?

Three months ago, my wife, Chrysta, and I were driving along Melrose Avenue in Los Angeles when she let out a harrowing cry.

When your toddler disagrees

There comes a time when your child starts having different views to you. I didn't realise that time would come so soon.

Win a Pacapod this Father's Day

To celebrate dads and families, we are giving away a Picos Pack from Pacapod Australia filled with a few extra goodies ENTER NOW

 

FREE TICKET

Discover the magic of the LEGOŽ DUPLOŽ Play Area in Sydney

Get your free ticket to The Essential Baby & Toddler Show and save $20 - register online now!

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.