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#1 ~Alchemy~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:54 PM

Long story short - I have maintained a certain GPA for 2 years until this semester when I missed out on a certain final grade by 1%. I sincerely believe I could have gained that 1% had I been given feedback from one major report PRIOR to handing in the second major report (together these two reports made up 65% of the overall mark and were spaced apart by 6 weeks so there was plenty of time to have report 1 marked and handed back prior to report 2 being submitted). I have worked hard at maintaining my GPA as I am possibly applying for medicine and want to give myself the best chance at getting into certain unis.

Ordinarily I would happily follow protocol and lodge a formal review of my grade and have every right to do this under university policy. I would do it in a respectful and professional manner, however, at the end of the day, I am calling out the course coordinator for not following university procedure of ensuring assessments are handed back within two working weeks. I would lodge the request review without hesitation except:

a) the course coordinator is the overall discipline leader and I will potentially want to approach her for employment and/references in the future
b) she is currently reviewing honours projects and I am applying to do a project directly under her supervision - a project I am passionate about and the likelihood of being published under her supervision is almost guaranteed.
c) she will be heavily involved in a new teaching hospital that I potentially want employment in
d) she is a university 'heavy hitter' and currently 'likes' me when very few students ever cross her radar - I know this because she responds almost immediately to any email I send whereas other students never hear a reply to emails, plus a few other reasons.

I don't want to upset the apple cart so to speak when she holds a lot of my future in her hands.
I also don't want my GPA to drop because of this 1% after working my ar*e off to maintain it.

What would you do in this situation???

#2 SplashingRainbows

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:07 PM

I wouldn't challenge. I would not want that person offside.

#3 Ally'smum

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:11 PM

If you get along with her I would speak to her directly about your GPA, at this stage I wouldn't say anything about the two weeks return policy, but stress to her how unhappy you are and ask her what you can do about it?



#4 ~Alchemy~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

QUOTE (loggedin @ 15/12/2012, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you get along with her I would speak to her directly about your GPA, at this stage I wouldn't say anything about the two weeks return policy, but stress to her how unhappy you are and ask her what you can do about it?


I have done this. She said I can only get my grade changed by lodging a formal review.

#5 Wise Old Owl

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:18 PM

How much is your GPA going to affected by missing out on a particular grade by 1%?  Can you make it up with your following units?

#6 crazyone2989

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:24 PM

For 1% you need to get over it unless it is really going to affect things later on...can't imagine that 1% would though

#7 poss71

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:26 PM

Doesn't GPA stand for grade point average? If so, it's simple. Make up the extra 1% in another subject.

Also, are you trying to get into medicine or do honours? They seem incompatible in the right now. If you want to get into medicine next year, when will you do honours? If you are doing honours next year, won't medicine be at least another year off?

It seems to me you are panicking at present. Take a deep breath and work out what is more important to you. Then work out how to achieve that goal.

Edited by poss71, 15 December 2012 - 03:27 PM.


#8 mondayschild

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:26 PM

I would lodge the review. In ten years time you won't remember this woman's name but your GPA will be on your academic record until you are dead. When I went to uni if I thought I had been unfairly dealt with I followed every avenue open to me to get the error corrected even if it meant stepping on someone's toes.

#9 ~Alchemy~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE (OneBlueStar @ 15/12/2012, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How much is your GPA going to affected by missing out on a particular grade by 1%?  Can you make it up with your following units?


GPA can never be 'made up' again once it drops. I have a 7. This one mark means it can never be a 7 again.

QUOTE (crazyone2989 @ 15/12/2012, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For 1% you need to get over it unless it is really going to affect things later on...can't imagine that 1% would though


It could mean the difference between getting into a particular uni or not...

QUOTE (poss71 @ 15/12/2012, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, are you trying to get into medicine or do honours? They seem incompatible in the right now. If you want to get into medicine next year, when will you do honours? If you are doing honours next year, won't medicine be at least another year off?

It seems to me you are panicking at present. Take a deep breath and work out what is more important to you. Then work out how to achieve that goal.


I am doing an embedded honours so I will graduate with my degree AND honours. No extra time. Medicine is not set in concrete yet but it is well known that the university I want to get into requires a GPA 7 from my particular university. So I may be panicking but it could mean the difference between the uni of my choice and a uni interstate.


#10 Stellajoy

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:49 PM

QUOTE
I would lodge the review. In ten years time you won't remember this woman's name but your GPA will be on your academic record until you are dead. When I went to uni if I thought I had been unfairly dealt with I followed every avenue open to me to get the error corrected even if it meant stepping on someone's toes.


My uni prof is now top of her field and ten years later I co wrote a paper with her for a peer reviewed journal and we are good friends.

It's who you know not what you know

I wouldn't put that relationship in danger for 1%

#11 ~Alchemy~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (Stellajoy @ 15/12/2012, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My uni prof is now top of her field and ten years later I co wrote a paper with her for a peer reviewed journal and we are good friends.

It's who you know not what you know

I wouldn't put that relationship in danger for 1%


This is completely it in my current line of study. If I do chose to stay with this profession and not go on to do medicine, it is vital that I have connections. She is extremely well known and well respected.

But then if I do want to do medicine, my GPA is very important.

Hence my indecision right now! Argh.

#12 jayskette

Posted 15 December 2012 - 04:01 PM

What is your ultimate aim of maintaining a GPA level? For personal satisfaction? or genuinely 1% off from getting a Medical degree which you are desperate for, for example.

#13 barrington

Posted 15 December 2012 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (~Alchemy~ @ 15/12/2012, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But then if I do want to do medicine, my GPA is very important.
For that one particular university.  

Having a GPA less than 7 is certainly not going to get you rejected from the majority of post-grad medicine intakes.



#14 rosiebird

Posted 15 December 2012 - 04:48 PM

Medicine is political. It is who you know that counts - unfortunate but true. There is no way that a postgrad medical course accepts only students with a GPA of 7 - they couldn't fill a cohort! I would be very very careful - essentially you are not just contesting a grade (which would potentially put her offside), you are blaming her for not marking the assignments quickly enough. I wouldn't risk it, sorry. People have long memories.

#15 rosiebird

Posted 15 December 2012 - 04:52 PM

PS. Medical exams are often marked inconsistently across hospitals, if you get in, you better get used to receiving odd and unfair grades - I got my first 5 (with a GPA7) in a hospital exam where 5 was the highest mark and in another hospital (same cohort) nearly everyone got a 7. It's not worth worrying about because after graduating, no one cares!

#16 purplekitty

Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:04 PM

Some postgrad med courses assign an automatic GPA 7 for an 1st. class honours degree.

1% off a 7 is unlikely to change your admission to most of the med courses I'm familiar with.
It's much more important to not antagonise your Uni Prof. to keep your options open.

#17 ~Alchemy~

Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:19 AM

Thanks for the advice. I've decided not to pursue it any further.

To clarify, the uni I want to get into requires a GPA of 7 from students who apply from my uni (not other unis). Unfair as it sounds this has been confirmed by two biomed lecturers who have assisted several students in their postgrad medicine entry. An honours degree is likely to be viewed differently though and hopefully I can maintain a GPA above 6.5 over the next year. Medicine isn't a sure thing for me but I am keeping my options open.

#18 papilio

Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:21 AM

Good luck with getting into Medicine!

IME having/doing honours can make a difference, I hope it does for you.




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