Jump to content

Another mass shooting in the US


  • Please log in to reply
205 replies to this topic

#1 papilio

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:11 AM

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/s...0-1226537283734

I just don't understand what it will take for restrictions on gun ownership in the US.

Interesting points in this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkbl...-united-states/

#2 Velociraptor

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:13 AM

Terrifying - we're in California, nowhere near the shooting, but it makes me appreciate our gun control laws and attitude in Australia. I've already talked to friends here about this and they just do NOT get the fact that such ridiculously easy access to guns allows any crazy person to get their hands on an assault rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition allows and just up and decide to go on a shooting spree.  sad.gif

#3 KylieY

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:17 AM

All I can think of is the children. How terrified they must have been. You think you are safe in school. It's hortific and heartbreaking.

#4 annodam

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:19 AM

Poor kids, poor families.

Why?

#5 BadCat

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:21 AM

This is just heartbreaking.  Those poor children.  That poor community.

It's time the US took guns out of homes.  It's enough.  Surely this time it's enough.

Edited by BadCat, 15 December 2012 - 06:21 AM.


#6 3rd time lucky

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:31 AM

So sad... I've been teary after reading this, and just want to hug my kids.

Maybe this time there will be some law changes?

My thoughts are with all those affected.

#7 Fr0g

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:35 AM

QUOTE
It's time the US took guns out of homes. It's enough. Surely this time it's enough.


It was time so long ago.

So sick of the unhinged evil in the world.

#8 BlondieUK

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:43 AM

22 children were hurt by a knife wielding man in China today. Every society has people in pain or in need. But the numbers of dead and injured speak for themselves today: with a knife - 22 hurt; with a gun 29 dead. If Obama does nothing else with his presidency in his last term, I would like to see him take on the NRA and at least try to make sure that this kinds of events are fewer, less frequent, and far less deadly.

#9 Littleblossom

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:43 AM

Mass knife attack outside a primary school in china too. No one killed thankfully. It's all just so horrible.

#10 ~Supernova~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:44 AM

I was just talking to my DH (who is American) about this...he just doesn't get how strict gun control is necessary either. He kept saying it would be too hard and take a long time to sort out, and I kept saying no matter how long it takes, it would be worth it *shakes head*. He also tried the line "if they really want a gun, they'll get one". But it would make it that much harder to access, arghhh!!

Just tragic.

#11 Gumnut82

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:47 AM

Some very interesting points in that second link, scary statistics.

Those poor parents. What a nightmare.

#12 Zesty

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:49 AM

I was so saddened to read about both of those incidents this morning. I must say, the one ray of light coming out of both tragedies is that the one from China didn't have any fatalities.

Honestly, what is it going to take for a hard stand on gun control?

#13 Guest_AllegraM_*

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:51 AM

As a second-term president not running for re-election with 4 years up his sleeve, Obama needs to take this opportunity and reform the laws once and for all. I know it won't be easy with the senate and congress and the states not wanting to give up their law-making rights but geez...

#14 pinkelephant

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:00 AM

I feel sick to my stomach.  I can't even begin to imagine how scared the parents must have been hearing the news and rushing to the school

#15 ~chiquita~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:02 AM

There should be armed security permanently stationed outside every US school. As sad as this event is, I'm fed with up it. Sorry.

So while the americans hug their guns, I'm going to hug my kid.

Edited by ~chiquita~, 15 December 2012 - 07:07 AM.


#16 BadCat

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:15 AM

I doubt that armed security would have helped here.  They knew him.  They buzzed him in.

Edited by BadCat, 15 December 2012 - 07:15 AM.


#17 AnnBB

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:19 AM

This is tragic. I can not imagine what the families of these kids are going through.
How many times does this have to happen before the US does something to fix their archaic gun laws? It makes me so mad that people's right, children's right to be safe and kept from harm does not seem to have the same importance as someone's 'right to bear arms'. Completely insane.

#18 Moo point

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:23 AM

A friend of mine lives 20 mins from the school, and is a teacher at a school nearby. She has friends with kids at the school who are thankfully safe, but she's pretty shaken up.

I also hope Obama can enforce strict gun control in his final term - he won't be running for re-election, what has he got to lose?

#19 ~sydblue~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:24 AM

Why do people take it out on children?
I don't condone any sort of thing like both incidents mentioned. I just cannot fathom why people do this to children.

#20 kpingitquiet

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:24 AM

Horribly tragic sad.gif I'm in the majority of Americans who never owned a gun and only ever lived in a house with a working gun once and it made me feel very unsafe. My first gun-law rally attended was in 6th grade. WTF is taking so long for people to get this through their heads??

#21 EBeditor

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:25 AM

It's horrific. Those poor families,
I so close to Christmas.

It really is a now or never time to tighten up US gun laws. These things just don't happen in other countries with anywhere near the frequency.


#22 Agnodice the Feral

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:26 AM

QUOTE (papilio @ 15/12/2012, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't understand what it will take for restrictions on gun ownership in the US.


There are plenty of places in the world where gun ownership is allowed but mass shootings don't happen.

I suspect it is a cultural phenomenon. People do things that they perceive as the 'norm', even if its a screwed up horrific 'norm'. Over the last 20 years, it's because an American 'thing' to get angry and then think it's ok to shoot in a public place. I'm not sure why that is, but I also don't think changing gun ownership laws will help.


#23 Jenferal

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:28 AM

It makes me cry to hear of such things happening. School is supposed to be a safe place for learning and playing, not a place to die.
My heart goes out to every person affected by such a tragedy.

#24 ~sydblue~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE (papilio @ 15/12/2012, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/s...0-1226537283734

I just don't understand what it will take for restrictions on gun ownership in the US.

Interesting points in this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkbl...-united-states/



QUOTE (AllegraM @ 15/12/2012, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As a second-term president not running for re-election with 4 years up his sleeve, Obama needs to take this opportunity and reform the laws once and for all. I know it won't be easy with the senate and congress and the states not wanting to give up their law-making rights but geez...

Well Obama has said this morning that this is not the time to talk about the gun laws and change.
If now isn't the time, then when is the time?

#25 ~chiquita~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE (BadCat @ 15/12/2012, 08:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt that armed security would have helped here.  They knew him.  They buzzed him in.

nno.gif
QUOTE
I also hope Obama can enforce strict gun control   in his final term - he won't be running for re-election, what has he   got to lose?

He's got nothing to lose. I don't consider this event a tragedy anymore, it's just a regular occurrence in the US and I'm bloody sick of it. It doesn't make me sad, it makes me f****** angry!




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

A mum's tragic battle against inflammatory breast cancer

At just 37 years of age, with two young sons, Vicki was diagnosed with inflammatory breast cancer. Now her family wants all women to know the symptoms.

The business of babies around the world

Pregnancy and birth is an intriguing process no matter where you are in the world. One soon-to-be father gleans wisdom from a new guide.

Finding a positive path through IVF

It’s not surprising that IVF is often seen as a negative journey towards the ultimate positive, but having a glass-half-full approach can make a big difference to the experience.

Giving strangers the gift of parenthood

A mum explains why she and her husband are choosing to gift their leftover embryos to help strangers achieve their dream of parenthood.

Does morning sickness get better or worse with each child?

Just as every baby is unique, so is every pregnancy. And that means morning sickness can vary a lot, too.

What's so wrong with looking 'mumsy', anyway?

Why is it that the word ‘mumsy’ has connotations of such a negative nature – but seems to be the only other option apart from ‘yummy’?

Trying to speed up the inevitable

As the waiting game of late pregnancy continues, this mum considers a few things that might hurry things up a little.

One month later: where is William Tyrell?

It has been a little over a month since William Tyrell disappeared from his grandmother's home, 33 long sleepless nights for his family as they mourn the absence of their cheeky young boy.

Winter's child less likely to be moody: study

Babies born in the summer are much more likely to suffer from mood swings when they grow up, while those born in the winter are less likely to become irritable adults, scientists claim.

Single mum of two creates award-winning baby app

Suddenly single with a baby and an 11-year-old son, Tara O?Connell developed an app to improve the lives of mothers who were similarly overwhelmed.

Food for thought: looking after yourself as a new mum

As soon as your baby enters the world, everything else takes a back seat - even the necessities of daily life such as eating are severely compromised, right when you need energy the most.

'Grabbable guts' campaign aims to cut toxic fat

The Live Lighter campaign will take people inside the human body to show the internal dangers of being overweight.

The best and worst month of my life

A new mum's first month of motherhood didn't pan out as expected when she lost a family member weeks after her baby's birth.

Facebook and Apple offer to pay female staff to freeze their eggs

Facebook and Apple are hoping to provide women with the freedom to build their careers without the added pressure of having children at or by a certain age.

How a pregnancy contract could work for you and your partner

The idea of making a 'pregnancy contract' with your partner may sound a bit silly at first, but it can help make the transition to parenthood a lot smoother.

Finding a mum-friendly personal trainer

Burping babies vs burpees – yes, new mums and personal trainers live in different worlds. But they can work together - once you find the right match for you and your lifestyle.

Alleged baby snatch incident a ?misunderstanding?, say police

Police say that an incident in which a man pulled on a woman?s pram while walking a popular Sydney route late last month was a misunderstanding.

Ebola killed my aunt and is shutting down my country

Three weeks ago, my auntie, a midwife, developed a fever. Sitting here in Sydney basked in Australian sunshine, that shouldn't be big news.

The night my ovary burst

One mum shares her frightening experience and vows to never take her health for granted again.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Win 1 of 5 Canon Powershot D30 cameras

Capture life more easily with the Canon Powershot D30. Shockproof, waterproof and dustproof, you can take it almost anywhere and shoot beautiful images, time after time. Enter now!

16 parenting truths you won't find in the baby books

I am five years into this parenting gig and I’ve learnt that sleepless nights and changing dirty nappies are child’s play.

Best and worst potty party cakes

It's nice to celebrate a child making the shift from nappies to 'big kid' undies, but do we really need a semi-realistic used toilet cake to do it? Here are some of the best and worst cakes parents have used at 'potty parties' around the world.

7 tips for a financially festive Christmas

Plan ahead - and do it now - to ensure festive season expenses don't break the bank.

'Go the F*** to Sleep' author's new book for frustrated parents

A sequel is coming soon to the 2011 hit book 'Go the F*** to Sleep' - and this time, it's about mealtimes.

Great birthday party buys from Etsy

Handmade crafts to decorate and personalise your child's next birthday - from banners to cake decorations, we've got gorgeous party finds from Etsy.

Creative storage ideas for the kids' rooms

Creative and practical storage ideas for the kids' toys and books can also add some stylish decor to your home. Visit babyology.com.au for more stylish modern finds for hip kids & parents.

The 'yucky' illness that took over my life

I have a chronic illness nobody likes to discuss, as it involves toilet talk. But it needs to be talked about.

To the mum in the doctor's waiting room

Maybe the mum I saw in that waiting room, seemingly disconnected from her baby, doesn’t have the support she needs.

10 space-saving nursery ideas

Starting a family doesn't always mean moving into a bigger house - not yet, anyway.

 

What's in a name?

Baby Names

Looking for a classic name, or an unusual name? Our Baby Name Finder is for you, search or browse to refine your shortlist.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.