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#1 papilio

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:11 AM

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/s...0-1226537283734

I just don't understand what it will take for restrictions on gun ownership in the US.

Interesting points in this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkbl...-united-states/

#2 Velociraptor

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:13 AM

Terrifying - we're in California, nowhere near the shooting, but it makes me appreciate our gun control laws and attitude in Australia. I've already talked to friends here about this and they just do NOT get the fact that such ridiculously easy access to guns allows any crazy person to get their hands on an assault rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition allows and just up and decide to go on a shooting spree.  sad.gif

#3 KylieY

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:17 AM

All I can think of is the children. How terrified they must have been. You think you are safe in school. It's hortific and heartbreaking.

#4 annodam

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:19 AM

Poor kids, poor families.

Why?

#5 BadCat

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:21 AM

This is just heartbreaking.  Those poor children.  That poor community.

It's time the US took guns out of homes.  It's enough.  Surely this time it's enough.

Edited by BadCat, 15 December 2012 - 06:21 AM.


#6 3rd time lucky

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:31 AM

So sad... I've been teary after reading this, and just want to hug my kids.

Maybe this time there will be some law changes?

My thoughts are with all those affected.

#7 Fr0g

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:35 AM

QUOTE
It's time the US took guns out of homes. It's enough. Surely this time it's enough.


It was time so long ago.

So sick of the unhinged evil in the world.

#8 BlondieUK

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:43 AM

22 children were hurt by a knife wielding man in China today. Every society has people in pain or in need. But the numbers of dead and injured speak for themselves today: with a knife - 22 hurt; with a gun 29 dead. If Obama does nothing else with his presidency in his last term, I would like to see him take on the NRA and at least try to make sure that this kinds of events are fewer, less frequent, and far less deadly.

#9 reachforthestars

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:43 AM

Mass knife attack outside a primary school in china too. No one killed thankfully. It's all just so horrible.

#10 ~Supernova~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:44 AM

I was just talking to my DH (who is American) about this...he just doesn't get how strict gun control is necessary either. He kept saying it would be too hard and take a long time to sort out, and I kept saying no matter how long it takes, it would be worth it *shakes head*. He also tried the line "if they really want a gun, they'll get one". But it would make it that much harder to access, arghhh!!

Just tragic.

#11 Gumnut82

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:47 AM

Some very interesting points in that second link, scary statistics.

Those poor parents. What a nightmare.

#12 Zesty

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:49 AM

I was so saddened to read about both of those incidents this morning. I must say, the one ray of light coming out of both tragedies is that the one from China didn't have any fatalities.

Honestly, what is it going to take for a hard stand on gun control?

#13 Guest_AllegraM_*

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:51 AM

As a second-term president not running for re-election with 4 years up his sleeve, Obama needs to take this opportunity and reform the laws once and for all. I know it won't be easy with the senate and congress and the states not wanting to give up their law-making rights but geez...

#14 pinkelephant

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:00 AM

I feel sick to my stomach.  I can't even begin to imagine how scared the parents must have been hearing the news and rushing to the school

#15 ~chiquita~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:02 AM

There should be armed security permanently stationed outside every US school. As sad as this event is, I'm fed with up it. Sorry.

So while the americans hug their guns, I'm going to hug my kid.

Edited by ~chiquita~, 15 December 2012 - 07:07 AM.


#16 BadCat

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:15 AM

I doubt that armed security would have helped here.  They knew him.  They buzzed him in.

Edited by BadCat, 15 December 2012 - 07:15 AM.


#17 AnnBB

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:19 AM

This is tragic. I can not imagine what the families of these kids are going through.
How many times does this have to happen before the US does something to fix their archaic gun laws? It makes me so mad that people's right, children's right to be safe and kept from harm does not seem to have the same importance as someone's 'right to bear arms'. Completely insane.

#18 Moo point

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:23 AM

A friend of mine lives 20 mins from the school, and is a teacher at a school nearby. She has friends with kids at the school who are thankfully safe, but she's pretty shaken up.

I also hope Obama can enforce strict gun control in his final term - he won't be running for re-election, what has he got to lose?

#19 ~sydblue~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:24 AM

Why do people take it out on children?
I don't condone any sort of thing like both incidents mentioned. I just cannot fathom why people do this to children.

#20 kpingitquiet

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:24 AM

Horribly tragic sad.gif I'm in the majority of Americans who never owned a gun and only ever lived in a house with a working gun once and it made me feel very unsafe. My first gun-law rally attended was in 6th grade. WTF is taking so long for people to get this through their heads??

#21 EBeditor

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:25 AM

It's horrific. Those poor families,
I so close to Christmas.

It really is a now or never time to tighten up US gun laws. These things just don't happen in other countries with anywhere near the frequency.


#22 Fright bat

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:26 AM

QUOTE (papilio @ 15/12/2012, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't understand what it will take for restrictions on gun ownership in the US.


There are plenty of places in the world where gun ownership is allowed but mass shootings don't happen.

I suspect it is a cultural phenomenon. People do things that they perceive as the 'norm', even if its a screwed up horrific 'norm'. Over the last 20 years, it's because an American 'thing' to get angry and then think it's ok to shoot in a public place. I'm not sure why that is, but I also don't think changing gun ownership laws will help.


#23 Marchioness Flea

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:28 AM

It makes me cry to hear of such things happening. School is supposed to be a safe place for learning and playing, not a place to die.
My heart goes out to every person affected by such a tragedy.

#24 ~sydblue~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE (papilio @ 15/12/2012, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/s...0-1226537283734

I just don't understand what it will take for restrictions on gun ownership in the US.

Interesting points in this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkbl...-united-states/



QUOTE (AllegraM @ 15/12/2012, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As a second-term president not running for re-election with 4 years up his sleeve, Obama needs to take this opportunity and reform the laws once and for all. I know it won't be easy with the senate and congress and the states not wanting to give up their law-making rights but geez...

Well Obama has said this morning that this is not the time to talk about the gun laws and change.
If now isn't the time, then when is the time?

#25 ~chiquita~

Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE (BadCat @ 15/12/2012, 08:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt that armed security would have helped here.  They knew him.  They buzzed him in.

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QUOTE
I also hope Obama can enforce strict gun control   in his final term - he won't be running for re-election, what has he   got to lose?

He's got nothing to lose. I don't consider this event a tragedy anymore, it's just a regular occurrence in the US and I'm bloody sick of it. It doesn't make me sad, it makes me f****** angry!




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