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#1 YouAreBeautiful

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:52 PM

Hi there I have been diagnosed with mild Hyperemesis. I am currently taking Zofran 8mg wafers/tablets 3 x a day. I have gone from vomiting and chronic nausea 24 hrs a day to just chronic nausea and the occasional vomit. Im not getting dehydrated anymore but very much struggling with the nausea. Does anyone know of anything else I can try?? I have tried ginger, accupressure bands etc. I am trying to care for my toddler on my own and am unable to do even the most basic chores. My DH works crazy hours and is my only support but gets things pretty ready for my DD before he leaves for the day so I can just lay on the couch while she plays etc. Im getting very down and just struggling. Really would appriciate any advice on other things to try.

#2 MandaLM

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:57 PM

Restavit. It's over the counter and a part of the royal women's hospital protocol for treating hyperemesis. You may have trouble with pharmacists not wanting to give it to you so maybe mention that or take a print out of the protocol with you.

#3 Starrydawn

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:57 PM

I think there is a b6/ restavit combination you can take.

But the things you have mentioned are basically it for most of us. There was nothing much else. YOu try to stay hydrated and eat what you can. I had to eat every 2 hours or things got worse.

I mean theres all the cracker foods but most of us were long past those.

#4 Fossy

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:58 PM

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Edited by Fossy, 12 December 2012 - 10:00 PM.


#5 janbabe

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:01 PM

Have you had a look at the HER Foundation homepage? There's a lot of great med info there. Some HG mums find a combo of meds can help and it's a case of tweaking until you find something that works. For nausea I actually found an over the counter medication called Restavit taken with vitamin b6 twice a day helped somewhat, while the zofran helped with the actual puking. Good luck, hope you find something that works xx

#6 YouAreBeautiful

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:11 PM

Thanks guys for your replies. The zofran is helping with the vomiting side of things just not the nausea. I will look into the restavit and b6. Does that cause drowsiness?? Im already pretty wiped out with the wafers so dont want to be much more when I have to care for my toddler. Arghhh this is just so awful. Will be having a scan tomorrow to try to find the source of some bleeding but this will most definately be my last bub. My dr said if the zofran doesnt work or I start vomiting hospital will be the only option for further treatment. That scares me alot.

#7 Starrydawn

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:21 PM

Yes you get IV rehydrated in hospital. I had a couple of trips. it is so hard isn't it? You really have my sympathy. The nausea is just so debilitating.

#8 whisk_

Posted 13 December 2012 - 10:51 AM

I am another one surviving on restavit.  It's the only thing that has stopped me vomiting AND kept my nausea at bay.

#9 Bluenomi

Posted 13 December 2012 - 11:02 AM

The only thing that worked for me was giving birth.

Vit B, ginger, sea sickness bands, crackers, staying hydrated, etc, didn't work.

I just looked up restavit and it says it's a insomina cure. I've never heard of it, how does it help with nausea? It's an antihistamine and not recommend during pregnancy...

#10 whisk_

Posted 13 December 2012 - 11:07 AM

bluenomi, my Ob recommended Restavit and I will admit to being concerned when I saw the blatant "do not take if pregnant" label on the packet, though the chemist also said it was pregnancy safe and a morning sickness remedy.  

Yes, it is a treatment for insomnia - the side effect from the tablet is a good night's sleep.

Not being a doctor, I don't know how the active ingredient in Restavit counteracts my MS, but I do know that my MS is directly linked to being tired.  Exhaustion makes me much, much worse.  

This page has been helpful to me to explain the various MS treatments:  

http://www.thewomens.org.au/NauseaandVomitingPregnancy



#11 Bluenomi

Posted 13 December 2012 - 11:19 AM

QUOTE (whisk_ @ 13/12/2012, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bluenomi, my Ob recommended Restavit and I will admit to being concerned when I saw the blatant "do not take if pregnant" label on the packet, though the chemist also said it was pregnancy safe and a morning sickness remedy.  

Yes, it is a treatment for insomnia - the side effect from the tablet is a good night's sleep.

Not being a doctor, I don't know how the active ingredient in Restavit counteracts my MS, but I do know that my MS is directly linked to being tired.  Exhaustion makes me much, much worse.  

This page has been helpful to me to explain the various MS treatments:  

http://www.thewomens.org.au/NauseaandVomitingPregnancy


Intresting, I'd never heard of it before. That page's definition of HG would mean I had it though I wouldn't have thought so, my ms was nowhere near as bad as people with HG I though. I did have phenergan when pregnant (for hayfever not ms) and it didn't help my ms at all even though it's listed as a ms treatment. I'll have to keep it in mind for next time

#12 whisk_

Posted 13 December 2012 - 11:28 AM

I don't have HG because I haven't lost weight from the MS.  Fortunately, despite vomiting multiple times each day from 6 weeks to present (and continuing, though I'm now down to once a day), there were times of they day when I could eat and keep food down.  I am grateful for that, at least!

Still, I recommend the Restavit for those at a complete loss, it has been a godsend to me - of course please talk to your care provider first!

#13 YouAreBeautiful

Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:41 PM

Thanks ladies, I will look into the restavit. How tired does it make you? I still have to get up to my toddler once through the night. I have had a slightly better day today. I was taking a pregnancy vitamin and have stopped it because the iron can apparently cause nausea so I dont know if thats helped or if Im just having a better day today. I had a scan today and got to see a lovely little heartbeat original.gif Makes things a bit more worthwhile. This is a terribly debilitating thing to go through. Im struggling to shower and bath my DD and getting out is just not a possibility unless its a must for a scan or something. For those of you that have had it previously when did things start to improve??

#14 Tenacious C

Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:49 PM

Another who takes Restivit and 100mg of B6. I take these at night before I go to bed as it will make you drowsy. This was prescribed by the Ob at the local hospital after I was admitted for rehydration (Zofran on its own was not working)

I was on 8mg of Zofran 3x daily but since starting the Restavit I only need to take the Zofran in the morning.

Iron supplements are a trigger for me regardless of the meds I take so pregnancy supplements with iron don't happen here.

But most importantly try and get some rest. I find if I overdo it I have another episode.

#15 mandala

Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:56 PM

I was on Restavit from 5 to 30 weeks. I found that after a few weeks it no longer seemed to make me drowsy. I found that the normal pregnancy fatigue was much worse in my first pregnancy when I only started taking Restavit at 9 weeks.

This site has lots of good information http://www.motherisk.org/women/morningSickness.jsp.

Good luck. I hope it passes quickly for you.

#16 whydoibother

Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:14 PM

Nope.  I had severe HG with my last (I had like you with the first two) and only thing that got me through was zofran even then I would still vomit etc

#17 whisk_

Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:15 PM

I was prescribed one Restavit tablet a night but ultimately cut that down to a half as it made me VERY drowsy.  Now that I've been using it for a while the drowsiness has worn off, although it still helps my MS in the same way.  My Ob indicated that it was something you get used to after using it often, and I presume this to mean the side effects.  

I still woke up in the night with my Restavit (for my million bathroom trips!), but I don't have another little one to tend to in the night.  I suggest if you are going to try Restavit you do so on a night when your DH or DP is there to help through the night, as you won't really know how it will effect you til you try it.  The real benefit from the tabs to me is the way I feel the next day - I can get through the day without vomiting, and last through til the evening without nausea.

#18 Done

Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:25 PM

one of my friends went to get acupuncture to see if that would help. the guy wouldn't treat her, but has given her some chinese herbs to take. After having a first pregnancy where she was sick until she gave birth, at less than 12 weeks she is feeling so well with the herbs. she was sceptical of it and researched all the ingredients and is quite happy with her decision to take them .

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bluenomi, my Ob recommended Restavit and I will  admit to being concerned when I saw the blatant "do not take if  pregnant" label on the packet, though the chemist also said it was  pregnancy safe and a morning sickness remedy.


so why does it say not to take if pregnant? what do they think will happen?




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