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#1 Hayleymumof3

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:28 AM

JAMES Ashby's sexual harassment case against former Speaker Peter Slipper has been thrown out of court.

Judge Steven Rares this morning ordered that the application contains "scandalous" allegations and to continue the case would be "manifestly unfair" to Mr Slipper and that some of the claims were done to "injure" his reputation.

The former Speaker wanted the case, which was launched by Mr Ashby on April 20 this year, thrown out of court, saying it was an abuse of process designed to be "prejudicial" and "damaging" to him.

Mr Slipper did not have a lawyer represent him at a two-day hearing of the case in October but didn't come to the Federal Court in Sydney to hear this morning's decision.

It followed an unsuccessful day of mediation talks between the pair.

Mr Ashby has been ordered to pay Mr Slipper's legal cost.


#2 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:34 AM

Huh. Well put that in your pipe and smoke it tony abbot et al....

.....(still, there is something a little bit odd about him [slipper])

#3 BetteBoop

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:36 AM

Wow. What the judge said indicates something very much like corruption. I won't hold my breath waiting for any follow up on that.

Does this mean Peter Slipper is free to assume the role of speaker again?

#4 Hayleymumof3

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:37 AM

..(still, there is something a little bit odd about him [slipper])

Oh I totally agree.  But I thought this case was crap from the start before talking to anyone else or filing a case he spoke to the OPPOSITION it stank of a Liberal mud slinging attack because he defected.

#5 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:42 AM

Very interesting.... I think the judge totally nailed it.

So, unless there is anything outstanding to do with the cabcharges (and I think that was long since sorted), there is nothing to stop the ex-speaker from returning to work.

(to clarify, he isn't the speaker, so he'd be returning to the cross bench as an independent) rolleyes.gif

Edited by *Spikey*, 12 December 2012 - 10:10 AM.

#6 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:44 AM

QUOTE (hayleymumof3 @ 12/12/2012, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh I totally agree.  But I thought this case was crap from the start before talking to anyone else or filing a case he spoke to the OPPOSITION it stank of a Liberal mud slinging attack because he defected.

Totally...apparently Nicola Roxon has come out saying the opposition has "serious questions to answer" about the slipper case....ooooh! (Rubs hands in glee) things could get interesting.....and here I was thinking we were drifting into a patch of slow news days!

#7 Liv_DrSperm_sh

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

no. freaking. way.

#8 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:51 AM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 12/12/2012, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wasn't he the one who sent those vile texts describing womens genitalia in the most vile way & had to resign?  So, no.  Don't think so.

Shellfish? Really that is the most vile and disgusting description of female genitalia?? Really?

In poor taste maybe and also under the presumption of privacy it wasn't a public statement FGS.
If we used that as a criteria for a pollie to do their jobs Tony Abbott would have  to have resigned years ago for poor taste statements he made in public

#9 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:56 AM

It was said in a private conversation with James Ashby. It was also presented out of context. That being said, it was a fairly gross thing to say to anyone, even a 'friend'.

But as no other parliamentarian has lost their job for private utterances, of a gross and crude kind, nor should he.

#10 Gudrun

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:58 AM

He can't return to the speaker's job as he resigned and Anna Burke is now the speaker.

Good judgement!

#11 BetteBoop

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:03 AM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 12/12/2012, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish he would.

I don't think its too much to ask that our politicians don't behaive like dirty little schoolboys, do you?

It's too much to expect them to not be proud misogynists, totally corrupt or to use their power to further their own financial interests over the interests of the people who voted for them.

If we set the bar too high, we are bound to be disappointed.

#12 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:09 AM

Stopwhining, you seem to be misinterpreting what I'm saying.

Peter Slipper resigned from the Speakers Position. Fact 1.

Peter Slipper did NOT resign from Parliament. Fact 2.

I'm saying that Peter Slipper should not lose his job (ie, parliamentary seat) as a result of private utterances - he's no longer the speaker and I'm well aware of that. I'm saying he should return to work. Probably on the cross benches, seeing he is an independent for now.

I understood from your earlier post that you consider Mr Slipper unwelcome in Parliament, as in 'he should lose his job', because its clear you understand that he is no longer the speaker and cannot resume that role (unless of course invited to do so).

And yes, I realised I left off an ex in one of my sentences in my earlier post. Will fix it for you.

#13 Mpjp is feral

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:18 AM

QUOTE (3Keiki @ 12/12/2012, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shellfish? Really that is the most vile and disgusting description of female genitalia?? Really?

In poor taste maybe and also under the presumption of privacy it wasn't a public statement FGS.
If we used that as a criteria for a pollie to do their jobs Tony Abbott would have to have resigned years ago for poor taste statements he made in public

I know plenty of gay men that 'privately' describe female genitalia as worse things than that! Who cares?

#14 (feral)epg

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:18 AM

Troy Buswell sniffed a womans chair in parliament.  He is now state treasurer.  Surely that is worse behavior.

#15 BetteBoop

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 12/12/2012, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are they elected members?  Then no, I don't care.

For the record, I'd care if Julia Gillard and Penny Wong exchanged texts about Tony Abbot's  'cheesy smegma' or Barnaby Joyce's tiny d*ck.  Something tells me they wouldn't, though.  Or Julie Bishop for that matter.

No. And I wonder what the public reaction would be like if they did.

#16 Relish*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:44 AM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 12/12/2012, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, they'd just need a good root, wouldn't they?

Exactly. So glad to hear common bloody sense has prevailed, in this case, if only momentarily.

#17 Hayleymumof3

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:49 AM

Better? Worse? Who knows. It's deplorable. It needs to be made public. It needs to be protested against. It's wrong.

My Bold it WAS made public http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/chair-s...9-1111116260465

The difference is he is a Liberal and Liberals don't get up in arms over things like this that THEIR PARTY members do.

#18 Feral_Pooks

Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:02 PM

Wow. So... Wait.

Slipper is a slimy guy, ok, there are a lot of them about. I don't think we can go calling for the beheading of every slime ball, we'd run out of politicians and lawyers and PE teachers. As exciting as hearing everyone get riled up about vulvas looking like shelled mussels IS, it's not really a blip on my "gee that's a worry radar" tbh. I've said worse things about c*ck and balls, that's for sure. Strange looking things that they are.

But what the hell? The allegations were bullsh*t and politically motivated?? So how deep does this go? Eek. Why aren't we talking about this?

Do you think they will investigate this? Will Slipper have recourse?

#19 Hayleymumof3

Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:25 PM

Do you think they will investigate this?

I don't think that the Labor party is going to let this go.  Will it be investigated I don't know but I am guessing it will be a lot like the UTAGATE scandal where someone will fall on their sword for the "good" of the party, and the Liberal's with dust their hands off and go "see we got rid of them".

Will Slipper have recourse?

He could always sue for deformation.

#20 BetteBoop

Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:35 PM

I just saw an interview with Ashby, talking about the outcome and how he intends to appeal.

He came across as sincere and seemed devastated. If it was an act, it was a bloody good one.

I'm now wondering, what did Ashby stand to gain by ousting Slipper?

#21 Hayleymumof3

Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:40 PM

I'm now wondering, what did Ashby stand to gain by ousting Slipper?

Money, A place in the Liberal party, He was meeting with people who plan to run in Slippers seat at the next election before doing anything else.  He can appeal but I highly doubt it's going to go anywhere.

#22 Mootmoot

Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

QUOTE (BetteBoop @ 12/12/2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just saw an interview with Ashby, talking about the outcome and how he intends to appeal.

He came across as sincere and seemed devastated. If it was an act, it was a bloody good one.

I'm now wondering, what did Ashby stand to gain by ousting Slipper?

Thank goodness our legal system is based on evidence, rather than who looks the most upset or least slimey.

#23 (feral)epg

Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:03 PM

Sordid mess the whole thing.
FTR I think Slipper's a pretty revolting human being.
But manufacturing a sexual harassment case is also appalling. (James Ashby)
And providing assistance to do so for political reasons (Mal Brough) surely would render someone unfit for high office.

Wonder what the Liberal party will do?

#24 Relish*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:27 PM

Pardon my ignorance but does Ashby get to keep his money from his September settlement from the Commonwealth?  Feels like there is much more going on that hasn't been released yet (or ever!).

#25 happening

Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:38 PM

The entire cast are dishonest, dirty and tainted by ambition and greed.  It will take a very wide-ranging, cohesive and cogent argument for me to discount the possibility that an enormous amount of pressure was placed on Rares.

It reeks of politics

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