Jump to content

School stuff ........


  • Please log in to reply
6 replies to this topic

#1 happy2bme

Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:19 PM

Over the past week or so ds1 has been bringing home his school books.  To say I am disappointed is an understatement.

A bit of background - last year ds1 had issues in his fyos we ended up doing IQ testing & seeing child psych however these proved inconclusive. At the start of this year we moved & he started at another school. I didn't give the school or teacher any background on the testing we had done because I wanted to see if it was school problem or a problem with him.  We spoke to the teacher parent teacher & see advised he was doing really well however there was a gap between his comprehension & his written ability. Basically if he was tested verbally he would excel at school but his written ability was a bit behind. At this point the teacher wasn't concerned.  Then at the end of term 3 I met with her again & she advised that she had been giving him extension work (year 2 level) & she found that in most things he was "exceptional" ( her words not mine).  Unfortunately she went on leave for term 4. A few weeks into term 4 I decided to meet with the guidance officer & I gave her the IQ test results. At the end of the meeting she basically said she would read through the report but she felt that it indicated he was just average on everything & the things that stood out in the IQ test his peers would eventually meet up with him so it means nothing.

I left that meet really confused & decided that I would not persue things any further.  Now I have received his books home & it is quite obvious that his written does not match his actual comprehension & that he gets distracted/bored.

Obviously there isn't anything I can do now as school finishes for the year on Friday but I don't know if I should be still looking into something - what I don't know or if I should leave things & see how they go over the next year.  I just don't know what to do - I feel something isn't right & that I should be doing something but I keep getting so many mixed messages from professionals.  cry1.gif  I just want to cry cause I don't know what I should be doing.  Part of my thinks maybe the standard of work he is doing is normal & if there was an issue even his new teacher would have said??

I just don't know

#2 PizzaSteve

Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:22 PM

Hi, this sounds like my DD. On the IQ test she had very high verbal comprehension, average nonverbal and high average working memory and the other one (can't remember sorry). At school she just didn't seem to be getting the results I thought she should, and it was my choice to get testing done to work out if there were any issues.

Anyway, when I saw the high verbal score I thought 'aha!'. That explains why it seems there is a mismatch. I have since spoken to a friend who is a school psychologist, and he shared that in those tests the working memory and the other one are actually the indicators that will best predict academic outcomes. Once he shared this, it helped me accept that my expectations were out and that it is not the school not understanding her - they are doing a great job! I need to ensure I am helping her with homework so I can work out where she might need support, ensure I am reading with her and encourage her to write as much as possible to improve these areas.

Not sure that this is help - sorry if not. More than happy for you to PM me if you have any more questions.

#3 Expelliarmus

Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:22 PM

What in his workbooks make you think something is 'not normal'?

#4 roses99

Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:35 PM

What about the IQ test was inconclusive? Are you concerned that he has a learning difficulty? Or that he's falling behind, or not as far ahead as he should be? Are you thinking that he might be twice exceptional?

Sorry for the barrage of questions  original.gif  Just trying to drill down to what the problem is. It sounds - on the surface of things - like his school books confirm exactly what the teacher had told you in the first place - that his verbal comprehension skills aren't matched by his written skills. But is there more to it than that?

I will say - as a teacher - that you ARE doing the right thing by him if you're actively trying to help and support him. But don't put too much pressure on yourself either. It would be good to meet with his teacher early in the new year to work on a strategy. You can support him at home by helping him with his written skills; his teacher should be able to give you some ideas.

#5 José

Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:07 PM

I'm with roses  his bookwork will be written work which you say you know doesn't match his verbal ability. So, what is it about the bookwork that's surprising? You say he's obviously bored. Tell us more about that? Is it possible the idea of written work is boring to him because he finds it difficult and possibly tiresome. While I would value and acknowledge his verbal skills the ability to express oneself in the written form and to complete written tasks is important.
I think people can expect too much of kids with good verbal comprehension.  Kids with good verbal skills often stand out more than kids with non verbal skills because when we talk with them - what did you learn today? What do you think about? .... we don't say - and feel free to reply in whatever format is ur strength like by waiting or through dance or song, we Ask them to verbalize their response. And ppl  seem to assume that if they can verbalize their response they can write it and that other skills will be at the same level. That isn't really the case.
If you are seeking specific advice I think you need to be more specific in ur post

#6 EsmeLennox

Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:12 PM

Everything above, plus I would expect a child's verbal ability to be better than their ability in writing at the age of your son. That's normal OP.

#7 happy2bme

Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:41 AM

It's not that I think what he is isn't normal & he is my eldest so I have nothing compare to.  His workbooks are extremely messy, I can't see any improvement in his writing, there is a lot of "doodling", unfinished tasks.  All this may be quite normal.   His original teacher didn't seem too concerned about it. Maybe my expectations are too high??  Should I just be guided by his teachers on this.  

Feliz6 - I think you are right. He finds the writing component boring & tiresome so therefore doesn't want to do it.  

I don't think he is behind in his school work - if anything he is advanced from what the teacher was telling me regarding him doing extension work.  I just don't want him to get behind in the written stuff because I know that this is important. I also don't want to push him too hard & he completely shut down & he doesn't want to do written stuff at all.  I also think that because he knows it is his head he doesn't want to prove it by writing it down.  

Hope that all makes sense??




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Special Ticket Offer, Save $8!

The Essential Baby & Toddler Show is back this April! Save $8 off the door price for a limited time only!

Finding baby name inspiration in unusual places

Sometimes the greatest baby name ideas come from the most unexpected places, as these EB members show.

The case for inducing at 37 weeks

While we often think of pregnancy as a 40 week affair, experts agree that 37 weeks is actually “full term". So is there an argument for inducing all births at 37 weeks?

Does controlled crying really work?

Controlled-crying techniques may help some babies sleep through the night, but for many exhausted new parents, it's just a recipe for more tears all round.

How I taught my infant to use a toilet

As people become more aware of these benefits, I hope more parents will practice this method, so we can cut down on nappies and improve baby bonding.

'I thought it was impossible': Emily Symons pregnant at 45

Aussie actress Emily Symons has announced she is pregnant with her first baby.

Shallow water blackout kills fit, healthy dad

A little girl will grow up without her father after the fit and healthy 34-year-old passed away while doing something he had practised his whole life.

Afternoon naps may be bad for toddlers' sleep

You could be doing yourself a disservice by encouraging your toddler to have an afternoon nap, according to new research.

Best gifts for newborns, new mums and christenings

We've compiled a guide to some of the most popular presents for newborns and new mums, and for christenings and naming days.

Jaime King to be a mum again

Actress Jaime King is pregnant with her second child, giving 16-month-old James a sibling.

Nannies should receive government funding

The Abbott government should extend funding to nannies, and direct childcare payments to low and middle income families, a landmark study on childcare has found. 

Common skin irritations in newborns (and how to treat them)

As many as one in two newborn babies suffer from skin irritations in their first few weeks. So what are the most common rashes and irritations to look out for?

10 wall decals for the nursery or playroom

Wall decals are the answer to creating a beautiful nursery or children's space without lifting a paint brush, a spirit level or even a hammer.

Preschooler walks 2.4km home alone

Three-year-old Cain Trainor headed off home after his first day at a new preschool without telling anyone.

Video: Why mums get nothing done

In spite of being in an almost constant state of motion while looking after the kids and trying to keep things together at home, it can seem as though parents have managed to get nothing on the to-do list done by the end of the day.

The middle name game

The middle name is no longer an afterthought, and parents' inspiration comes from many places.

Have a baby or your money back - but there's a catch

A new IVF scheme offers couples the chance to fall pregnant and give birth - or get their money back. But there's more to it than you might think.

A rare glimpse inside the womb

A baby born still inside the amniotic sac gave US doctors a rare glimpse at life inside the womb.

Battered mum forced to write to her attacker ex in jail

Three years ago Jason Hughes viciously attacked his ex-partner. Now she has to write to him three times a year.

Woman pleads not guilty to ultrasound scam

A West Australian woman will fight allegations that she scammed expectant mums by selling them fake ultrasound pictures of babies.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Brain damaged mum receives compensation

A Sydney mother who suffered brain damage when she was hit by a car while pushing her newborn baby in a pram has reached a confidential out-of-court settlement with the driver's insurance company.

Indigenous midwives break down the barriers

A culturally sensitive midwifery service has gained the trust and respect of Aboriginal women.

The Katering Show's next big delivery

Most mums-to-be plan to take things easy and perhaps have a little break from work as the birth of their baby draws near. Not Kate McCartney.

53 creative pregnancy announcements

Announcing that you're expecting can be a time to express your creativity, sense of humour and imagination. Check out how other parents and parents-to-be have broken the news to friends and family.

Why I have mixed feelings about Cindy Crawford's leaked photo

Last week an un-retouched photo of model Cindy Crawford surfaced, showing the 48-year-old mother-of -two posing in underwear.

How to create a Peppa Pig pancake

Thought your toddler could not love pancakes any more than they already do? How about if the breakfast treat came in the shape of every two-year-old's favourite cartoon character?

'It's a little life, not a little loss': pregnancy after miscarriage

I thought I was never going to be able to have a successful pregnancy. I decided that I wasn't going to form an emotional attachment with this baby.

Bonds Baby Search 2015: what you need to know

February 18 marks the start of one of the most prolific annual baby competitions in Australia: the Bonds Baby Search. And this year is going to be more special than ever.

Who will manage your Facebook account when you're gone?

This is not something that people like to talk about, but Facebook has announced that it will grant users more control over what happens to their pages after they die.

Struggling mum of four wins $188 million

Mother of four Marie Holmes was financially struggling after quitting her jobs at Walmart and McDonald's in order to care for her children.

Pregnant obese women a 'relatively new problem', coroner hears

A first-time mother whose daughter died hours after her frightening birth insists she was never told of the risks of being obese and pregnant.

'I'm angry as hell': the story behind mum's passionate vaccination plea

She has labelled parents who do not vaccinate their children "misinformed imbeciles" - and for that, she makes no apologies.

IKEA hacks for the nursery and kids' rooms

Are you one of those that know the whole IKEA catalogue by heart? Love their stuff but want to personalise it? Here's some inspiration to help you realise the potential of IKEA furniture and fittings.

8 different kinds of tantrums

I never thought I’d say this, but for a brief moment last week, Kim Kardashian and I had something in common: both our kids had public tantrums.

Polycystic ovary syndrome: symptoms, treatment and your fertility

Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) is the most common female hormonal condition, affecting roughly one in 12 Australian women.

What's the best position for giving birth?

If doing it on your back is out, what's the best position for labour and birth?

Wife forgives snake catcher husband for car surprise

With Valentine's Day coming up, Nat Gilbert could be forgiven for thinking her husband might be planning a surprise for her.

Kids who meet milestones at their own pace

We usually only hear the success stories: tales of the two-year-old who’s talking, running and completely toilet trained. But other stories need to be told too.

Ruby shines as Bonds Baby

Sarah Kiss has a word of advice for proud mums and dads who are keen to enter their babies in this year's Bonds Baby Search Competition - just have fun.

Why dads should go to sleep school

If your family needs to go to sleep school, go with them. You are part of that family and you are part of the solution.

36 baby names inspired by food and drinks

A French court may have ruled out Nutella as a baby name, but that doesn't have to stop you from taking inspiration from the supermarket (or bottle shop). See what parents in the US have chosen for their delicious little ones.

Clever breastfeeding products

Check out this range of products designed to help make your breastfeeding journey more enjoyable, manageable and convenient.

 

Win a KitchenAid Mixer

Let's celebrate 300,000 fans on Facebook

To celebrate, and to thank our amazing fans, we?re giving away a KitchenAid Artisan Tilt-Head Stand Mixer.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.