Jump to content

Builder hit a pipe
Who has to pay?


  • Please log in to reply
15 replies to this topic

#1 Romeo Void

Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:36 PM

Our builder dug footings today for our deck.  I was watching out the window with my children, like you do, when I saw the digger bring up a load of dirt with shards of clay pipe.  They stopped and had a quick look then kept going.  I decided to head down and ask what was going on (the main guy wasn't there, his sidekicks were) and they told me it was fine, an old pipe, nothing to worry about.  So I didn't.

Luckily it rained a little this afternoon so when I popped down with my children to have a look, I saw water pooled at the bottom of the hole.  Not all the holes, just the one with the pipe.  So I got suspicious and did a little test, I ran the tap for our laundry tub and sure enough the water started to swirl in the hole.  I've let him know and he's coming tomorrow to have a look.  

Is this something that he now has to suck up and fix because he broke it?  Or am I going to get stuck with paying for this?  I fear it's going to cost a bit as the pipe is well over 1m down and they're going to have to break up our concrete driveway to get at it sad.gif

#2 liveworkplay

Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:55 PM

Their problem entirely.

#3 TheWanderer

Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

If I were you I would quickly work out which pipe he hit. It could get messy real quick if it is a sewer line that is used by more than one property.

Go here http://1100.com.au

Set up an account and search for your property. You will get emails from utility providers with underground assets running through your property.  It shouldn't be too hard to work out which pipe was hit.  Print the map and show your contractor.



#4 Romeo Void

Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:21 PM

Ok I've had a look at our plans and it looks like it's a combo drain with next door!  We're uphill so I don't know if they will be affected.  And I don't know if it's sewage or just storm water, I'm waiting for the water to drain out so I can flush and test.

No one is allowed to poo for now!

#5 TheWanderer

Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:33 PM

Count yourself lucky... We have a sewer main that services half our suburb running through our b├íck yard.  If anyone hit that that we would really know it.

If its a small drin pipe, a plumber should be able to fix it easily enough... They should pay though.

Edited by TheWanderer, 11 December 2012 - 06:34 PM.


#6 Romeo Void

Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:10 PM

I've checked and it's definitely a sewer.  

No one allowed to poo in our house tonight!  Lucky my sister lives next door  biggrin.gif

I don't think it's going to be easy TheWanderer, it's about 1.5m down and they've opened a 50cm hole in our concrete driveway to dig.  I can't see how they can get down to the pipe without tearing up a big chunk of our driveway.

Oh well, it could have been much worse. They were due to pour the concrete footing tomorrow.  Imagine if they'd poured all that concrete THEN we worked out the sewer was blocked?!?

#7 Chubbles

Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:30 PM

I wouldn't be so sure they have to pay. Depends on what the terms and conditions are. A different scenario but when we had a tree stump removed we were aware of a pipe under the ground and it was in their terms and conditions that if they were to hit such pipes it is my responsibility not theirs.

#8 MGB

Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:09 PM

How did you go with the builder OP?




#9 Romeo Void

Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

He came around this morning with a plumber and they discussed it at length.  It appears the builder is going to fix it himself (under guidance from the plumber) tomorrow.  Apparently because the footing for the deck is positioned directly over the pipe he has to do some load shifting business around the pipe.

Not sure what to make of it all.

#10 FionaM

Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:42 PM

OP i would be interested to hear how you went.

we are having our bathroom renovated at the moment and i notice a hole in our hallway that wasnt there yesterday !!



#11 robot sm

Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:49 PM

I used to work for a company that installed rainwater tanks, if any of our plumbers hit a pipe (it happened a lot actually!) we paid for it.  It's the tradesmens responsibility to check on pipe locations etc, not your responsibility to go and mark out on your property where any pipes run!

#12 Romeo Void

Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:05 PM

How do you get a hole in the hallway?  So strange.

I don't have a problem with the builder digging it out and cutting away the pipe, I think I'm going to insist he gets the 'real' plumber back to do the connecting part.  I mean, if it's going to be under 1.5m of concrete AND have our deck supported over it I want it done well with no worry of it having problems in the future.

#13 *LucyE*

Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:49 AM

QUOTE
Apparently because the footing for the deck is positioned directly over the pipe he has to do some load shifting business around the pipe.

Who did the plans and approvals for your deck?  In our LGA, we would not have been approved to have footings over a sewerage line.

#14 Romeo Void

Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:21 PM

*LucyE* it was done by an accredited Brisbane City Council approver. When I talked to my builder he said that old drawings (like ours) often aren't to scale because they're hand done and you'd only be guessing at the location of the pipe.  But it really does seem no one was expecting the pipes to be there, not the approver, not the bloke digging and not our builder.

He came around and fixed the pipe.  I asked he didn't fill the hole for a few days so I could monitor it to make 1000% sure it didn't leak.

I think I've made him paranoid as he's come up with a different solution to putting the post on top of the sewer.  He's going to reinforce the beam and forgo the central post (that rests on the pipe).  So our entire 5mx6m deck will be supported by 2 posts (and attached to the house) and some industrial strength beams.  

The draftsperson is on holidays so his plan is to over engineer the beam requirements and get approval afterwards.  I haven't talked to him for 2 days but I plan on telling him that it's on his head if the draftsperson doesn't approve what he does.

This whole thing feels like it's ever so slightly out of control.

#15 *LucyE*

Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:10 AM

Oh!  You poor thing!  You have my sympathies.  

I hate renovating/extending.  I hate the red tape.  I hate dealing with some tradies.  I don't speak 'builder' and they obviously can't understand me so I now only use 'interpreters' or else I'd bloody strangle them.

We have been landscaping and needed to change our septic output areas.  We apply to Council to get their certified copy of the existing plans to include with our application to amend.  Only to find that they sent me an old plan that was 2 stages out of date.  I then went through my files to find the copies of our amended (and approved!) plans so that they could update their files before we could apply to amend.

Bah!  Sorry to take over and start venting.  I call this our never ending reno.  It feels like we will never be finished (and not from a lack of desire from our part).

#16 Romeo Void

Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:50 PM

No LucyE you go right ahead, you've given me food for thought.  I did some searching last night after your post querying building over a sewer pipe and I've got a slightly sick feeling that we may not have got all the approval necessary.  But I've followed the instructions from the engineer/builder/BBC accredited approver to the letter so I hope I'm worried about nothing.  I don't know what else I could have done?

I'm going to call him tomorrow and ask he doesn't go ahead without getting the all clear form the engineer.  If it delays the project by 2-3 weeks so be it.  Either that or put in an extra post (one each side of the sewer) rather than remove a post.  I'd feel more comfortable with that option.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Clever panda fakes pregnancy

News that a giant panda was pregnant prompted much excitement, but it appears there were never any cubs on the way.

'I survived placenta percreta'

When writing her birth plan, Simone Pavil included an item most women wouldn?t even think about: what should happen if she was put on life support. The mum had the potentially fatal condition placenta accreta.

Managing personal space as a mum

In the midst of the early parenting years, our bodies and minds can seemingly be overtaken by our offspring. How can we balance our need for personal space with the needs of our children?

'If love could have saved you, you'd have never left'

The words "spontaneous abortion" on the hospital paperwork really got to me. My baby died; I didn't spontaneously decide to abort him.

15 classic Aussie ads

Watch some of the classic Australian ads of the 80s, 90s and 00s, and remember the catchphrases and jingles we all used to know so well ...

For and against

Should Blue Ivy have been at the VMAs?

Many were quick to condemn Beyonce and Jay Z after appearing on stage at the MTV Video Music Awards with their two-year-old daughter, but others thought it was a sweet family moment. What do you think?

Toddler attacked at gym creche

Two-year-old girl Eva Ness was left with a black eye and bite marks on her face and body after an altercation with an older child at a health club's child-minding facilities. Now her parents are calling for the centre to be closed.

Pregnancy a tricky matter of timing for FIFO couples

Manipulating rosters, coordinating 'conjugal' visits, working on site with your partner; getting pregnant can prove stressful for FIFO workers.

WIN a $100 RedBalloon for Dad

Enter now for your chance to win 1 of 5 $100 RedBalloon experience vouchers. Helping you make Dad's Day EXTRA HAPPY.

Carseats have twice as many germs as a toilet

Most parents know their child's carseat is not always squeaky clean, but they might not realise just how dirty it really is.

Doctors remove foetus from 'medical marvel' after 36 years

Doctors in India have removed the skeleton of a foetus that had been inside a woman for 36 years.

Nine months in six seconds: new parents' Vine clip a hit

We?ve seen some memorable time-lapse pregnancy and birth announcement videos before. Now one new couple has taken it to the extreme, capturing it all in just a six-second Vine video.

Sonia Kruger speaks of baby joy

Celebrity mum-to-be Sonia Kruger has spoken candidly about using donor eggs and IVF to fall pregnant at age 48.

Dressing to not impress: life through the eyes of a three-year-old

When it comes to getting dressed, my three-year-old has only one criterion: ?I don?t want to look beautiful.? And now I've worked out why.

Special nappies made with love for angel babies

Angel Baby Nappies make and provide tiny bereavement cloth nappies for pre-term stillborn babies and premature babies who pass away in the NICU.

Inside the brain of a tantruming toddler

What's going on in your child's mind in the lead-up to a tantrum? And what?s the best way to respond?

5 secrets to a long-lasting relationship

When it comes to keeping your relationship strong, it?s what you do - and not what you want - that really matters.

When 'furbabies' meet real babies

I am obsessed with my dogs, and can't imagine loving them any less once my baby arrives. But that doesn't stop everyone from telling me I will.

The least popular baby names of 2013

Looking for a baby name that?s nowhere near the top 10 ? or even the top 1000? Try the bottom five.

'I was so sleep deprived I crashed my car'

There are no laws regulating driving while tired, but statistics show that driver fatigue is one of the top three contributors to the road toll.

Win back some precious time and get FREE coupons

Membership to eBay's Bubs? Corner is free and includes a $10 coupon to spend on nappies each month - a win for multitasking mums!

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

WIN a $100 RedBalloon for Dad

Enter now for your chance to win 1 of 5 $100 RedBalloon experience vouchers. Helping you make Dad's Day EXTRA HAPPY.

Win back some precious time and get FREE coupons

Membership to eBay's Bubs? Corner is free and includes a $10 coupon to spend on nappies each month - a win for multitasking mums!

Do you suffer from Precious Firstborn Syndrome?

Testing ?no more tears? shampoo in your own eyes, warming cucumber sticks so they're not cold straight from the fridge, waking a sleeping baby to check they?re still breathing: these are all symptoms of Precious Firstborn Syndrome.

Ezra's tragic death not in vain, mum says

Little Ezra was a "Harry Houdini" who loved trying to escape the family home. Now, after his tragic death, his parents are doing what they can to help others.

7 mistakes old hands make with new babies

As I sat across the table from my friend ? me, a seasoned mother of three; her, a brand new mum ? I thought of all the mistakes an old-hand parent can make when visiting a newborn baby.

Video: When adults act like children

Ever wondered what would happen if adults were allowed to act like children? This dad's hilarious video clip will give you an idea of what life would be like.

Mums hit hardest as flu cases skyrocket

The number of confirmed cases of influenza in Australia has doubled the number for the same time last year - and women are 25 per cent more likely to get it.

The mum who had four babies in nine months

Feeling exhausted due to the demands of caring for a baby? Imagine the life of this mum, who gave birth to three boys and one girl in just nine months.

Everything baby at Big W

Lowest prices on everything baby, only at Big W. Sale starts August 4 and ends August 20 2014.

Going viral

Weirdest pregnancy products

From pee stick keepers to stylish sick bags, there are some very strange inventions out there for pregnant women.

Personalised baby gifts

We've scoured the internet to find gorgeous personalised keepsakes and nursery decor to record baby name and dates. They make great gifts for christenings, name days and birthdays! (All prices in AU.)

 

Mind, body, beauty, life

Making time for me

We look at your wellbeing, covering health, relationships, beauty and fashion, mind and body.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.