Jump to content

I can't find the thread about back yard nudity.
Article might interest OPer


  • Please log in to reply
70 replies to this topic

#1 babatjie

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:00 PM

I was reading a light hearted thread about a poster who had problems with neighbours watching them through their window. Her husband strolled around in the nude. Some posters said he shouldn't as a warning. Just thought the link below might be of interest to the OP but I can't find the thread. Thanks original.gif


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2012/1...mp;mchpost=pos3

Edited by babatjie, 11 December 2012 - 02:00 PM.


#2 qak

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:05 PM

Wow - the guy was nude inside his house and got in trouble!

#3 BetteBoop

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:16 PM

QUOTE (qak @ 11/12/2012, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow - the guy was nude inside his house and got in trouble!


Yes, geography is not the issue. If you can be observed by your neighbours, then you're in a public place and public indecency laws apply.

The OPs husband in that thread could be prosecuted if the neighbours complained. Which is what I'd be doing if mine was the child he was flashing.

#4 babatjie

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:19 PM

Has anybody had luck finding the thread. I can never get the search function to work.

#5 MGB

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

QUOTE (babatjie @ 11/12/2012, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anybody had luck finding the thread. I can never get the search function to work.


I think it was deleted.

#6 Cacti

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

I thought of that thread when I read the article too!

#7 fionah

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

Yep. It was deleted. Troll.

Fi

#8 Grobanite

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

The judge saw common sense and let the poor guy off. The women in the news article is such a prude. I can't believe she got the police involved.
I would be telling my kids not to look and If I was offended I wouldn't look either.
Seriously what has the world come too?

ETA this happened in Cairns and let me tell you it gets really hot and sticky up here and sometimes you want to go with out clothes.

Edited by Grobanite, 11 December 2012 - 02:23 PM.


#9 babatjie

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

QUOTE (Mrs Mel @ 11/12/2012, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it was deleted.


Oh well. Hopefully she sees this thread or the article.

#10 Tigerdog

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:24 PM

It's one thing to be deliberately parading it in front of children but in the other thread the neighbours were deliberately looking out the window and perving (which then prompted the OP's husband to consider deliberate parading - good luck for the neighbours to prove it, especially when they were the ones choosing to look!).

Edited by Tigerdog, 11 December 2012 - 02:25 PM.


#11 4kidlets

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:25 PM

It got deleted - mods said the OP was a troll.


http://www.essentialkids.com.au/forums/ind...owtopic=1035071

#12 Paddlepop

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:25 PM

Thread link:
http://www.essentialkids.com.au/forums/ind...1035071&hl=

Confirmed as a troll by the mods.

Snap 4kidlets!

Edited by Paddlepop, 11 December 2012 - 02:26 PM.


#13 BetteBoop

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE (Grobanite @ 11/12/2012, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The judge saw common sense and let the poor guy off. The women in the news article is such a prude. I can't believe she got the police involved.
I would be telling my kids not to look and If I was offended I wouldn't look either.
Seriously what has the world come too?


Err, no. He was convicted. He simply wasn't listed as a sex offender.

What the world is coming to is that you can't expect your neighbours with small children to not look outside their windows for fear of seeing you naked.

And I guess, given you're not a prude that if your kids saw a flasher on the street you would just tell them to look away and not call the police?

#14 Caitlin Happymeal

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:27 PM

So the other day when i did a nudie run to get my clothes, and forgot my bedroom curtains were open, and my across the road neighbours saw me, apart from being super embarrassing, was also illegal? Oops!

#15 babatjie

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:28 PM

Thank you. Seems I didn't need to be concerned about it!

Also, I didn't mean to discuss a closed thread. Honest mistake. Mods close please if necessary.

Edited by babatjie, 11 December 2012 - 02:29 PM.


#16 Grobanite

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:28 PM

No conviction was recorded.

http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2012/12/1...local-news.html

QUOTE
And I guess, given you're not a prude that if your kids saw a flasher on the street you would just tell them to look away and not call the police?


If a person was running up the street naked my kids would probably laugh.

If a person deliberately came up to kids and flashed or was touching himself while looking at my kids yeah I would call the police.

I would definately not get the police involved of it was my next door neighbour unless he was doing some of the sexual things as stated above.




Edited by Grobanite, 11 December 2012 - 02:33 PM.


#17 Cranky Old Woman

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE (4kidlets @ 11/12/2012, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It got deleted - mods said the OP was a troll.


http://www.essentialkids.com.au/forums/ind...owtopic=1035071


So much imagination going to waste. rolleyes.gif

#18 Bam1

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:32 PM

QUOTE (BetteBoop @ 11/12/2012, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I guess, given you're not a prude that if your kids saw a flasher on the street you would just tell them to look away and not call the police?


There is a huge difference between being nude in your own home and being a flasher on the street.

#19 BetteBoop

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE (Grobanite @ 11/12/2012, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


He was still convicted, hence being sentenced to a good behaviour bond. The fact that no conviction was recorded was so he wouldn't be put on the sex offender registry as the children were very young.

He will still have a conviction on his criminal record.



#20 Cat People

Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (BetteBoop @ 11/12/2012, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I guess, given you're not a prude that if your kids saw a flasher on the street you would just tell them to look away and not call the police?



This is not the same thing.  A guy walking around his house naked is doing so expecting privacy.  A flasher is a getting off sexually or whatever; he wants to be seen.

I would have no problem my kids seeing a man naked in his own house going about his business.  I'd slap a pervert in the face if he flashed my kids.

From the article -

QUOTE
The glimpses the woman and her children had of the man between March and August, 2010, were "fleeting'' and of a non-sexual nature Judge Everson said.


#21 BetteBoop

Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (Madame Catty @ 11/12/2012, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is not the same thing.  A guy walking around his house naked is doing so expecting privacy.  A flasher is a getting off sexually or whatever; he wants to be seen.

I would have no problem my kids seeing a man naked in his own house going about his business.  I'd slap a pervert in the face if he flashed my kids.

From the article -


He was not expecting privacy. He was persistently exposing himself to his neighbour and her young children.

QUOTE
The man pleaded guilty to doing an indecent act to offend others and exposing himself to children.
"You knew that your next-door neighbour did not like this, particularly as it seems she had young children," Judge Everson told the man in Cairns District Court.
"Your offending was in the nature of being a persistent nuisance."


It makes my skin crawl that mothers are lining up to trivialise this kind of behaviour. Generally speaking, people who deliberately expose themselves to kids are predators. But we're so worried about oppressing the rights of men that what we should tell our kids is to look away. Don't make a fuss. Be polite.

These are the precise opposite messages to what I will give my child.

#22 qak

Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:57 PM

But everyone should be able to walk around naked in their own home surely?  If the neighbour & the kids saw it they were looking into his windows ... although I suppose he could have closed the curtains?

ETA: and the neighbours could have closed their curtains???

Edited by qak, 11 December 2012 - 04:00 PM.


#23 Cat People

Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:01 PM

QUOTE (BetteBoop @ 11/12/2012, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It makes my skin crawl that mothers are lining up to trivialise this kind of behaviour. Generally speaking, people who deliberately expose themselves to kids are predators. But we're so worried about oppressing the rights of men that what we should tell our kids is to look away. Don't make a fuss. Be polite.


That is simply not true.  Polite?  From me?  Come on.  I'd be the first to make a fuss if I saw a reason too.  I don't see this as a men vs women argument; I'd feel the same with either sex.  The guy was in his own home, the judge said it was non-sexual and the glimpses "fleeting".  Without knowing more details, I don't see a problem.


#24 joeyn

Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:24 PM

Why didn't the mother speak to the man and ask for him to put curtains on his windows, or negotiate a screen on their mutual fence to screen his windows from their view?
Much better option than involving the police.

I am lucky to live out of sight of my neighbours, unless they have binoculars.. nudie run for undies here is usually out to the washline!

#25 jessie123

Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE (BetteBoop @ 11/12/2012, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He was not expecting privacy. He was persistently exposing himself to his neighbour and her young children.



It makes my skin crawl that mothers are lining up to trivialise this kind of behaviour. Generally speaking, people who deliberately expose themselves to kids are predators. But we're so worried about oppressing the rights of men that what we should tell our kids is to look away. Don't make a fuss. Be polite.

These are the precise opposite messages to what I will give my child.


I said this in the first thread and will say it again.

Growing up we had a neighbour that exposed himself. We were on a slope and looked down into his backyard. If we wanted to play out the back there was no much we could do to escape him. He would come outside when we were there.

Of course he didn't just start off doing this it was a gradual approach. Overtime he would masturbate and yes we went to the police and they paid him a visit.

I would question why anyone wants to continue to expose themselves to a child knowingly.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Special offer: The Baby & Toddler Show 2014

At The Baby & Toddler Show, you?ll find everything you need to get ready for your new arrival and guide you through the early weeks and years of parenting.

An open letter to Tony Abbott: please salvage our super

We face financial ruin, but most of us don?t realise it. If we don?t act together to salvage our superannuation, I have no doubt the new GFC will be the Girls? Financial Crisis.

'I'm happy to know I'm changing lives': surrogate mum of two

I know that once the baby is born, I will focus on the gift I have given, and watch the parents with their new child. I can't wait for that day.

Birth trauma and the issue of informed consent

There is a perception that women should just be happy they have a healthy baby in their arms. But for women who experienced birth trauma, there's a lot more to it.

Tips for managing pollen allergies and hayfever

They're simple tips, but they can have a big impact on those who suffer from hayfever and pollen allergies.

Ada Nicodemou shares tribute to her stillborn baby

Just over one month since Ada Nicodemou and her husband lost their second son, the Home and Away star has shared a touching poem for her baby.

Mum causes stir breastfeeding on train

?To the woman breastfeeding her kid on the train. Seriously! On the train?" began the letter of complaint.

10 things they don?t tell you about being pregnant

As I slowly waddle my ever-changing pregnant body towards the finishing line of my due date, it?s becoming increasingly clear there are a lot of things they just don?t tell you about pregnancy.

Overcoming a fear of the dark

A toddler's fear of the dark is very normal, but there are ways parents can help children through this stage in their development.

Kids, TV and movies: how young is too young?

It seems you don't have to throw the TV and iPad out the window - it all boils down to moderation, supervision and interaction.

Video: Baby's first birthday is a special day for mum, too

?A baby?s first birthday is also mum?s first birthday.?

The day Supernanny came to tea

Prince William's favourite celebrity child trainer Jo Frost puts Bryony Gordon and her toddler through their paces.

Tales from the homefront

When you're at work you sort of assume that your house is basically just sitting there quietly doing nothing until you return. However, since spending my days at home, I've learned this couldn't be further from the truth.

The words I hated hearing as new mum

It was less than a week after my son was born that I first heard it - from my mother.

To the pharmacist who sold me baby formula

On the rare occasion I catch sight of you at school, or around town, I think back to our earliest exchange. I?m sure you have no recollection of it at all.

Babies may benefit from autism therapy

Children showing signs of autism don't usually receive early intervention until well into toddlerhood or later, but a new study suggests infants with symptoms of the developmental disorder might benefit from therapy from as early as six months.

Knatalye and Adeline born with an everlasting bond

Knatalye Hope and Adeline Faith are a lot like any other identical twin girls, but there is one dramatic difference: they're joined at the chest and shares several internal organs.

The question this dad wishes he'd asked his wife

I should have seen that my wife wasn't the same person I'd fallen in love with, but we were both too focused on simply trying to get by.

Why we should talk about the deaths of the Hunt children

The deaths are too horrible even to think about. Yet we owe it to the children - Fletcher, Mia and Phoebe Hunt - to think long and hard about it all.

Baby dies of meningococcal weeks after vaccine application denied

A six-month-old girl has died from meningococcal disease just weeks after an application for government funding of a vaccine for the most deadly strain of the virus was rejected.

Finding the right balance when playing with your kids

Being too involved in our children?s play and not allowing our kids enough free time for unstructured activities can mean our kids miss out on the value that play offers.

Creative DIY light shades

The Pop Light light shade comes in a flat pack already made - it's up to you to design it as you'd like.

The battle of iParenting versus imagination

Have we forgotten how to be imaginative, resourceful parents?

Why movement is so important for your baby's growth

Letting your child move as much as possible in the early years ? using all senses, engaging in the real world, preferably outside ? will help them grow up healthier, smarter, calmer and stronger.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Special offer: The Baby & Toddler Show 2014

At The Baby & Toddler Show, you?ll find everything you need to get ready for your new arrival and guide you through the early weeks and years of parenting.

Losing yourself to motherhood

While watching your baby grow into a unique little person is exciting and wondrous, the intensity of meeting everyone else?s needs can ever so sneakily overtake your own needs for self-care.

Tearing during delivery: the facts

Almost all women will experience bruising, grazing or tearing after a vaginal birth. Depending on the degree of tearing, there are various treatments available.

6 tips for a day out with a baby and toddler

Outings can be lots of fun with the kids, but there are inevitable challenges. Here's some information about days out to help you be a little more prepared.

Why I invited a dozen people to watch my son's birth

I sent invitations on burgundy scrapbooking paper stamped with a field of poppies, and told each person why I wanted him or her there. I warned that there would be nudity.

Getting labour started: tips for a natural induction

When your baby?s due date comes and goes without so much as a pop - let alone a bang - it can be disheartening. Mums and a doula share their stories of natural inductions.

7 mistakes old hands make with new babies

As I sat across the table from my friend ? me, a seasoned mother of three; her, a brand new mum ? I thought of all the mistakes an old-hand parent can make when visiting a newborn baby.

That's my boy: a dad's diary of the first 4 months

Unbearable anxiety, unspeakable joy, constant exhaustion and bouts of frustration ... The many shocks of first-time fatherhood resound in a dad's diary of his son's early months.

One of the most important things a new mum can do

Finances may not be as cute as a newborn, but with many women?s working arrangements changing post-baby, monetary matters need attention too.

6 things I didn't expect as a parent

From weird smells to dangerous opinions, painful body parts to numbness, here are a few things new mums and dads can expect.

Personalised baby gifts

We've scoured the internet to find gorgeous personalised keepsakes and nursery decor to record baby name and dates. They make great gifts for christenings, name days and birthdays! (All prices in AU.)

 

Reader offer

2 FOR 1 TICKET OFFER

For Shopping, For Advice, For Baby & You. Enjoy a special day out with fabulous shopping from over 200 brands, leading parenting experts offering advice on a range of topics, and amazing children?s entertainment

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.