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#1 xavierbirds

Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:44 PM

Im a bit stuck with my partner, we're expecting a little boy and Im keen to hear your feedback on this name:

Ariel Zion Xavier.

Background: I am hooked on the name Ari, but my partner thinks we need to expand it, (he is not so keen on Ari and says he probably won't call him Ari even if I do..... not sure how that will work). Ive had the name Ariella in my head since forever (for a girl). Ariel is the boys version. I'd prefer to go with Ari as it has so many meanings and I love the sound. I'm a little concerned that expanding it to Ariel will be too effeminate for "society" particularly during roll call at school etc, at least in his pre-teen / teen years. My partners really likes Ariel for a boy, we both see it as unique and beautiful although my preference is definitely for Ari.

Another "expanded" version my partner likes is Aristo but I just think of an old bald man in robes when I hear that. Some others we came up with are Arieh, Arie, Aris. Any thoughts on these?

We both love Zion for his middle name. We see this as allowing a second nickname option of Ze (which my partner much prefers to Ari).

What is some general feedback? Ariel for a boy?


#2 la di dah

Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

I like Ariel for a boy. I have known probably five or six (over the course of my life not all at one place or something) Ariels who were boys/men.

It is less common in Australia though.

I maybe slightly favour Ari but I still like Ariel. Ari is awesome though.

Arturo is my favourite long Ar-starting name but I don't think Ari NEEDS a long form. There's also Arthur NN Ari which isn't bad and more pleasant to my ear than Art.

I'm not sure I like Zion as a name. I'm familiar with Benzion, that's an old-fashioned family name of mine. (means son-of-Zion).

I think Ariel Xavier is a good combo and really like just that, but I am not mad for 2-middles ever so that's my admitted bias.

#3 Feral Grey Mare

Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:51 PM

By naming your son Ariel you are setting him up for a lifetime of ridicule. It is absolutely a girls name. Please keep trying to find a name you like but not Ariel.

#4 Ice Queen

Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:54 PM

I prefer Ari.  I have a Princess obsessed daughter and all I think of is Ariel from The Little Mermaid so I dont really think of it as a boys name.

But having said that, it doesnt offend me.  I probably wouldnt think twice if heard it.

#5 José

Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

I wouldn't choose Ariel for a boy  it sounds very feminine to me. I would probably likeZion but it reminds me of Zion national park in America. There is nothing wrong with Zion national park I just wouldn't name my son after it. Of the names you have suggested I think I prefer arieh. I agree with ur DH that air sounds like a nn and I prefer a fuller name even if they are mostly known by their nn.

#6 bakesgirls

Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

Wasn't that the name of the 'Little Mermaid'? It sounds like a girls name OP.

#7 robot sm

Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

I know a male Ariel, it's unusual but no more feminine than a lot of boys names you hear now...

I think you could easily just have Ari, without having to extend it.

#8 ~Peaches~

Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:56 PM

I absolutely love Ari, pity your DP won't come around to Ari on it's own, it's a lovely name.

Ariel for a boy I am not a fan of, I know 3 girls with the name Ariel so it's definitely more feminine to me. Out of all the others on your list the only one that stands out to me that could be more 'masculine' is Aris. I still prefer Ari on it's own by a mile though wub.gif

#9 Tigerdog

Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:59 PM

Ari standing on its own is way better than feminising it to Ariel just for the sake of having another longer option (which he probably wouldn't use due to its girlishness).  Zion I'm not that keen on, reminds me of The Rivers of Babylon (where we sat down, yeah we wept, when we remembered Zion lalala - connotations of slavery).

#10 la di dah

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:03 PM

I think it is more popular on boys in America as it's popular amongst mostly Jews and Latinos (neither massive populations out here).

It's been in the Top 1000 for boys in the US for about 40 years, and is traditionally male.

From '88 to '98 it was in the 400s and a bit in the 300s. Now it's in the 600s.

I just think of it as an angel name like Gabriel or Michael/Miguel or Raphael/Rafael, it becomes a feminine variant only if it gets an -a or -le ending on the end. wink.gif

#11 Guest_- Poppy -_*

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:06 PM

A big N.O. to Ariel, all I can think of it the little mermaid.

Ari and the other names are cool but calling a boy Ariel is not a good idea.

#12 la di dah

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:08 PM

Zion does have a lot of political/cultural/religious ramifications but if you like it and its a middle name...? I would be aware some people are NOT going to be thinking about parks when they hear it.

#13 BabyBumbleBee

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:12 PM

Xavier is great but I'm not a fan of Ariel or even Ari for a boy or Zion. I don't think the combo of names sounds good either.

#14 xavierbirds

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE (la di dah @ 11/12/2012, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like Ariel for a boy. I have known probably five or six (over the course of my life not all at one place or something) Ariels who were boys/men.

It is less common in Australia though.

I maybe slightly favour Ari but I still like Ariel. Ari is awesome though.

Arturo is my favourite long Ar-starting name but I don't think Ari NEEDS a long form. There's also Arthur NN Ari which isn't bad and more pleasant to my ear than Art.

I'm not sure I like Zion as a name. I'm familiar with Benzion, that's an old-fashioned family name of mine. (means son-of-Zion).

I think Ariel Xavier is a good combo and really like just that, but I am not mad for 2-middles ever so that's my admitted bias.


Interesting you mentioned Arturo, thats my partners late fathers name! His best mate has called their son Arthur (Arty nn) and his sister's baby  born 1 month ago has Arthur as a middle name, so we'll probably avoid Arturo / Arthur.

Im fully aware of the Little Mermaid Ariel reference and other references to Zion too. The Mermaid one will be hard to get over, I think we're liking Zion as middle as we see potential to shorten it to Ze.

#15 Chazee

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:18 PM

My first thought was 'you're naming your son after a mermaid?!!'.

Not a fan, sorry....

#16 Ingrid the Swan

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

Ariel reminds me of The Little Mermaid, sorry to say. I know it is/was a bous name but I think the Disney movie and ongoing popularity of the character as a Disney Princess means that it is much more associated with girls now and that association will be primarily with younger girls.

Zion is also a bit too religious and politically loaded for me.

I am normally the one in here arguing that kids will always find an excuse to bully someone so you might as well use a name you like - but if the name you like is actually Ari then I'd say use that instead of something a lot more fraught.

FTR though - Aristos reminds me of the guy on Surprise Chef rather than an old man (I watch / used to watch way too much dodgy TV) and another option may be Arastoo (as in the Bones character Arastoo Vaziri).

#17 Cranky Old Woman

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:24 PM

I actually thought it was a boy's name but I am basing this on the fact that character in The Tempest (Ariel the mischievous spirit) was male.

#18 la di dah

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:27 PM

Are you going to pronounce it air-ee-el like the movie or are-ree-el? Like R-E-L, the letters saying their name.

Air-ee-ul/Aerial slightly curdles my blood.

Oh I thought of another long form for Ari. Arik is used in Israel as a short form of Ariel?

#19 boatiebabe

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:35 PM

I like all the names, but it's too many unusual names jammed in together for my liking. It seems so choppy when you say them all togther.



#20 xavierbirds

Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE (la di dah @ 11/12/2012, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you going to pronounce it air-ee-el like the movie or are-ree-el? Like R-E-L, the letters saying their name.

Air-ee-ul/Aerial slightly curdles my blood.

Oh I thought of another long form for Ari. Arik is used in Israel as a short form of Ariel?


Would be pronounced R-E-L, although I would call him Ari (R-E). Arik isnt bad too Ill mention that thanks! Judging by the comments here I think my best option is to work my partner towards accepting Ari, either that or we aim for another name altogether. We've got a mix of others floating around like Jett, Levi, Ace, Astro, Adelino, Aureliano, Easton, those are the few we both like that are on high rotation. Im also a fan of Ravi and Nero though dad isn't.



#21 kerilyntaryn

Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:20 PM

I think Ari is nice,  Ariel is ok,  I know a 9 year old with this name

I think Zion and Xavier are too similar sounding although both nice

Levi is nice too

others

Eli
Elias
Ezra
Zebadiah nn ze, zeb

Edited by kerilyntaryn, 11 December 2012 - 05:06 PM.


#22 B.feral3

Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:33 PM

I really dislike the name.

Ariel is certainly for a girl. How about Gabriel?

#23 la di dah

Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (Bek+3 @ 11/12/2012, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ariel is certainly for a girl.

Certainly?  huh.gif

#24 Bam1

Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (Old Grey Mare @ 11/12/2012, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By naming your son Ariel you are setting him up for a lifetime of ridicule. It is absolutely a girls name. Please keep trying to find a name you like but not Ariel.


Your knowledge may be limited so to you its absolutely a girls name but it is traditionally a Jewish Boys name as well (Ariel Sharon, ring any bells) and Ariel in Shakespeare's The Temptest was a male spirit.

All because you would probably ridicule a child over a name does not mean others would show the same ignorance.

OP, Ariel is a beautiful name and yes thanks to Disney you may get a few looks but people are getting more sophisticated and would accept it.



#25 Z-girls rock

Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:00 PM

Xavier I like

Ariel - I am not familer with Disney princeses but it seems a lot of people are.

Zion I dont like because of the connotations with Zionists.




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