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#1 Regular Show

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

Well I went into the shops today and had a quick look. From what I could see most of them had the sticker so I dont know what that guy was talking about to be honest.
I thinking by 'toys' he meant like toys compared to the quality of helmets in his shop (not literally toys). Either way I think this myth has been busted for now  biggrin.gif  Im very glad to say  happy.gif

Another thread got me thinking..

Did you know that the bike helmets they sell in places like Big W, Kmart, etc are actually classed as 'Toys'.

I actually found this out when I went to the local bike shop to purchase my son a helmet and after a lovely chat with the owner he told me this.

I was horrified that that shops are aloud to sell helmets that are not proper helmets. If I hadnt spoken to him, I would have never known.

It makes me shudder to think of all the parents thinking they are doing the right thing by buying a helmet that is actually not fit for the purpose it is sold as intended.


Feel free to share anything else you may have discovered that you'd like people to be aware of  original.gif

Edited by Cadie, 10 December 2012 - 01:47 PM.


#2 Broxie

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:25 PM

As in, they don't meet standards for helmets? That is shocking! And scary!

#3 unicorn

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:27 PM

I thought they had to meet standards if they display the sticker.

#4 SeaPrincess

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:29 PM

Pretty sure that's his way of making sure you go back there to buy your next helmet.  DH works in OHS and will not allow DS1 to have a skateboarding helmet for bike-riding, but is perfectly happy to buy cycle helmets from the Toy department in Kmart or Toys R Us.  Bikes are also sold in the Toy department - doesn't make them not bicycles.

#5 beccajayne

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:29 PM

I buy from Kmart and they have a little sticker saying they meet Australian standards.
I assumed that meant they were safe.
Are you sure the guy wasn't trying To scare you into always buying from him.

#6 Fossy

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:30 PM

Hope you didn't buy from him!! He was telling porkies OP!   tongue.gif

#7 CupOfCoffee

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:32 PM

I just had a look online, and most of the ones bigw sells comply with AS/NZS 2063: 2008 the Australian helmet standard (which makes them an approved bicycle helmet (I think the rules are the same in most states).  

Are you sure he wasn't just trying to sell you an expensive helmet?

#8 **Xena**

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:33 PM

All bicycle helmets in Australia must comply to safety standards- including ones sold in Toy stores. If not they will be subjected to large fines:

http://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/in...l/itemId/974624

#9 soontobegran

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:36 PM

Not so?
I bought a Tinkerbelle and a Thomas helmet to go with my grandchildren's bikes for Christmas and they are both Australian Standards  approved.

#10 bikingbubs

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:36 PM

No I didnt know, coz its a load of BS!
Sounds like he just wanted to get your business.  
Helmets bought online frmo overseas do not comply with Aus standards and therefore dont have the sticker (does not make them less "safe" though) but means you legally cant ride on the road with one.

#11 Hooray Henry

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:37 PM

I went outside, found DS's helmet and bought it inside for an inspection after reading this!

(Yep, it has a sticker staying it meets standards and I've Googled the standards and it's the correct number for a bicycle helmet)



#12 Regular Show

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE (CupOfCoffee @ 09/12/2012, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just had a look online, and most of the ones bigw sells comply with AS/NZS 2063: 2008 the Australian helmet standard (which makes them an approved bicycle helmet (I think the rules are the same in most states).  

Are you sure he wasn't just trying to sell you an expensive helmet?


I dont think so because the helmet I bought wasnt cactually that expensive and I was already buying the helmet.

I've seen the stickered ones in those stores to. I think he must have been referring to the unstickered ones?? Not too sure actually but as I understand it if its classed as a toy they are not breaking any law because only helmets are regulated - not toys (as in apply under standard helmet laws.

I would be so glad if its wrong and he was telling porkies!!!

#13 **Xena**

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:39 PM

He's definitely wrong!

#14 EBeditor

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:41 PM

There are certain items such as baby car seats, bike helmets etc which cannot be sold in Australia unless they comply with the relevant Australian standard. If it has the 5 ticks sticker it's fine. Some items also have extra voluntary standards which some manufacturers will meet or exceed.

#15 Regular Show

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:41 PM

In other news - how cute are these helmet covers  biggrin.gif



#16 bikingbubs

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:43 PM

It is illegal to sell a helmet that does not meet australian standards and have an australian standards sticker on it.  
As mentioned above, it is also illegal to ride with a helmet that does not meet australian standards and have an australian standards sticker on it.

...sorry.  helmet safety is something i am VERY passionate about.

#17 pinkcupcakes

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

Aww, they are so cool! i love the princess and the knight one.  could def see my kidlets in those!

#18 Unatheowl

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

Oh, the covers are awesome!

#19 Regular Show

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:45 PM

The ones im looking at on the kmart website arnt stickered  ??

I know there are regulations if its a helmet, but a helmet that is classed as a toy (but not stated that its a toy) dont fall under those regulations.

Hmmmmm very interesting...

#20 Regular Show

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:49 PM



Like this one maybe????

helmet

#21 bikingbubs

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:49 PM

The sticker is on the inside of the helmet.
Can you link me? If thats the case I will make a complaint! or several....wink.gif

#22 Regular Show

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (pinkcupcakes @ 09/12/2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aww, they are so cool! i love the princess and the knight one.  could def see my kidlets in those!


I know I loved the knight one to. I could so see DS wearing one of those  happy.gif

edit - I'll try find the link again if anyone wants it

another edit - its not an australian site - just google 'helmet covers' and it should come up under images

Edited by Cadie, 09 December 2012 - 08:54 PM.


#23 nup

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:55 PM

If that pony helmet isn't a helmet, then why is it called a helmet rather than a toy?

Confusing thread is confusing.

#24 becstar101

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE
I know there are regulations if its a helmet, but a helmet that is classed as a toy (but not stated that its a toy) dont fall under those regulations
QUOTE


I think by the nature of it being a helmet, it cannot be classified as a toy, and must meet safety standards. You couldn't make a car seat, then classify it as a toy (unless clearly labelled as a barbie car seat or whatever) and not have to meet safety standards.


#25 Regular Show

Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (CupOfCoffee @ 09/12/2012, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just had a look online, and most of the ones bigw sells comply with AS/NZS 2063: 2008 the Australian helmet standard (which makes them an approved bicycle helmet (I think the rules are the same in most states).  

Are you sure he wasn't just trying to sell you an expensive helmet?


Thats funny because most of the ones im looking at on the Big W site dont. I only found one that was safe for the use on road with the AS/NZS 2063.




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