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2 LH surges? Clomid help PLEASE!

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#1 reebs

Posted 09 December 2012 - 07:54 PM

Hi ladies,
I am left feeling very confused today (icing on the cake given the cranky irritable clomid induced lunatic I have turned into!!!)

So took clomid cd2-6. I have been charting to assist detection of o. I had positive Tuesday and Wednesday. This was in line with bad o pain, breakout, irritability, cm, cervix HSO etc. Dh and I covered all bases.  Had negative (fading progressively) opk's thursday fri and sat, again indicating ovulation on friday when coupled to my body signals. I had a temp spike on sat (again indicating that i was right with my feelings that o was Friday- wow! I thought!!! This might actually mean I am ovulating!!!! Yay!!!!). BUT Today I have had a massive Temp dive coupled to a very positive opk?

I had thought it might be a fallback rise, but now coupled with todays positive opk, my cervix is still hso, im naseous and bloated and feeling very very "bruised" inside and dont get me started on how cranky i am!!! my poor dh and Dd's!!!! I'm left feeling really confused????

Is this the real ovulation? Or is this an indication that clomid has not worked? Or is it just screwing with my sanity? I have bd today after putting on a DVD for the girls (super parenting!!! lol) but if this is the real surge- I assume I have to continue with the bding for a couple of days?

Any sane (aka non clomid effected) advise would be most most most appreciated!!!!! Lol
Thanks ladies x x
I have a picture of the opk's but I don't know how to attach

#2 Fossy

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:00 PM

What's your FS say? Scans help pin point ovulation.

#3 beccajayne

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:03 PM

Unfortunately it sounds like your body is trying to ovulate but hasn't followed through.

What are you using to chart with?

Any chance you can show us your chart? Would be able to give you some better insight with more info.

Eta: found your chart in sig, silly me for not looking before.

I'm sorry to say but it looks like you haven't o'd yet? Your temps are a bit erratic.
Do you temp orally?

Edited by beccajayne, 09 December 2012 - 08:07 PM.

#4 reebs

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:07 PM

Thanks ladies, my chart is in my sig.
My ob has ordered day 21 (thurs) and day 24 (sun) tests.
The o pain is very intense as is the uterus pain. I have a high pain threshold, but have been on nurofen and this has made the pain 'bearable'

#5 reebs

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:10 PM

Nope temp vaginally

#6 Fossy

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:16 PM

Pain and bloating can be signs of hyper stimulation. If you are worried about it you should get it checked out ASAP. Good luck.

#7 jules095

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (reebs @ 09/12/2012, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The o pain is very intense as is the uterus pain. I have a high pain threshold, but have been on nurofen and this has made the pain 'bearable'
I would contact you DR first thing in the morning, because you may be over stimulating. OHSS is not nice & that is why IMO, everyone on Clomid should be fully monitored with scans & BTs.

#8 opethmum

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:19 PM

My temp charts were all over the place and I could not tell whether I had ovulated either but the key to success is have sex and have it often 2/3 days. Keep calm and just be patient (I know that it is hard to do). My temps were very subtle rises my FS said.

I know it is hard and I sympathise with you. Good luck!

#9 reebs

Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:26 PM

Thanks ladies!
Taking myself off to bed with a heat pack.
If I'm still in pain I will do what you have graciously advised  ob and ask for a scan.
So over how all consuming this ttc gets!!

Maybe tomorrows temp will shed some light!
Thanks x

#10 beccajayne

Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:26 AM

Todays temp looks promising! It is lower than any of your previous ones.

Fingers crossed your ovulating today

#11 reebs

Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:45 PM

Thanks beccajayne!
I have never felt my cervix so high, soft and open - OMG its dilated like i'm having a baby now! LOL
Enlisted hubbys help and we have the bases covered.  wink.gif

Very VEy intense and extremely uncomfortable.  My right ovary feels like its about to explode!
I rang the Ob, who has ordered a pelvic ultrasound today at 3:40pm.

I'll keep you posted.  I hope i'm oing.... that would be nice!! LOL

#12 beccajayne

Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:48 PM

Yep, sounds like it all might be falling into place for you today  original.gif
Good luck

#13 reebs

Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:59 PM

BeecaJayne - I just noticed you are TTC#3 with a big gap like us! (Starting again - are we mad!! LOL!!!)
You're also 17DPO - Any news??
Good luck and fingers crossed - heaps of baby dust to you xx

#14 Bwok~Bwok

Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:11 PM

but have been on nurofen and this has made the pain 'bearable'

Stop taking Nurofen - it's an anti-inflammatory which can affect the size of your follicles.

#15 reebs

Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:16 PM

So I just thought i'd update you...
U/s showed no hyper stimulation.
It showed however 30 follicle cysts in the left ovary (Poly cystic he called it) and vol of 7.03ml and one huge dominant follicle on the Right ovary that seems to take up the entire rt ovary!  He said he couldn't tell if it was a follicle that had ovulated yet or a big cyst.  It was 18ml in volume. Full ovary size was 3.84cm x 3.18 cm with follicle/cyst as 2.54cm x 1.96cm. (It wasn't there when we were u/s to check for PCOS some months back)
I have one PCO and NOTHING else.  No other symptoms, nothing.  My ob ruled out PCOS already as the bloods didn't match either.  
So I'm not sure if indeed the last 24 hours has seen ovulation or if this is a cyst.  Tomorrow’s temp might tell??
The worst part was the endo lining.  He said the lining is nothing like it should be on CD18.  It is only .564cm.  I asked him - IF this follicle was indeed ovulation about to happen/just happened (since he says he couldn't tell) then would this size be ok for an "ovulation day" ie like a text book CD14.  He said no - it’s like a CD10 and too thin.
So now I'm left thinking - even if we ovulated, there’s no chance a baby can snuggle in.

#16 reebs

Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:23 PM

THANKS bWOK bWOK - I didn't know that!
Whispering *Congrats on BFP - sending all sticky vibes your way!*

#17 Bwok~Bwok

Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:06 AM

Clomid can affect your lining and as for the follie size - looks like you are about to O.

I'd being going to a different Dr if I was you. At least one that will give you regular BT's and U/S's - and know what they are talking abouting -  that way they can see what is going on with your lining.

ETA: Oh and thank you original.gif

Edited by Bwok~Bwok, 11 December 2012 - 10:07 AM.

#18 Chill-Pill

Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:29 AM

I am glad you had the scan and have more of an idea about what is happening. Are you sure the follicle measurement is correct? Because if it is then your specialists comment about the follicle being too small and indicative of cycle day 10 is really odd. The follicle is the usual size for ovulation. Maybe he was just referring to the lining and you got confused? The lining issue is probably more a side effect of clomid particularly if your dose is high and is unlikely to be something you had in natural cycles but if you get a referral to a fertility specialist they will be able to do more testing to optimise your chances.

#19 beccajayne

Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (reebs @ 10/12/2012, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BeecaJayne - I just noticed you are TTC#3 with a big gap like us! (Starting again - are we mad!! LOL!!!)
You're also 17DPO - Any news??
Good luck and fingers crossed - heaps of baby dust to you xx

Lol, my dd was born almost 6 years after our ds. This time though the big gap is not through lack of trying.

Was hoping for a bfp but alas I had a beautiful looking chart with high temps and af turned up at 18dpo  sad.gif
Am guessing weight loss has confused my cycle which explains why my last 4-6 cycles are all different.
Who knows.

Your chart is looking good.
Can't understand about sizes and stuff but I'd trust Bwok-Bwok with that info.

Good luck, all we can do is try, try, try again  biggrin.gif

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