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If you had ectopic?


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#1 PerthFembo

Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:35 PM

I had my dating scan yesterday and something strange happened that is worrying me. I am 7w5d (by my calculations and u/s measurements), but the sonagrapher could not find anything by abdominal scan. Which I thought was very strange.

She did an internal and did find the baby (gestational and yolk sac, strong 160bpm) but she said it "was hiding in the far corner" which is why she couldn't find it with the abdominal scan. It was still a little difficult to see tho and it's a strange looking scan....She also took quite a few pics of my ovaries too (4 more than they took of my dating scan with DD).

Anyway, now I'm worried there is something wrong (perhaps ectopic?) and they are not supposed to tell me themselves. My GP apt is not until Tuesday afternoon which feels like an eternity away.

So I guess I have two questions:

1) If the sonagrapher suspected an ectopic would they tell me or wait for my doc to tell me?

2) Has anyone had a normal pregnancy that couldn't be seen by abdominal scan at 8 weeks or "in the corner"?

So confused...

ETA: I have not had any bleeding/spotting. Have had mild cramping but had that with DD as well. Morning sickness has mostly subsided the last few days.

Edited by JBaby, 09 December 2012 - 02:48 PM.


#2 knottygirl

Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:41 PM

ectopic is very serious, even if they didnt tell you, at 8 weeks they wouldnt just send you off to the doctor with a note, they would be calling the hospital to admit you as an emergency.  i doubt its ectopic.

#3 ReadySetRace

Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:42 PM

I can tell you for sure an ectopic would mean you were sent to the hospital or to your GP that day. It's I'd not safe to leave it 5 days in case it ruptures.

Maybe the "in the corner" comment was because she wanted to justify the difficulty she was having?

Try not to worry.

#4 PerthFembo

Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

Thank you Knottygirl and Doctorseuss, that's a huge weight off my mind, you have no idea.

I know they are not doctors and not supposed to interpret the scans for you (well that's what my sonagrapher last time told me), but I was hoping something serious like that they would be allowed to say something.

#5 Mummytoyou

Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

If it were an ectopic you would have been sent straight to emergency, it can be life threatening.

Perhaps your a little earlier along.



#6 reebs

Posted 09 December 2012 - 03:01 PM

Off topic, but recently my sonographer actually asked if I was sure that I had two ovaries!!!!!!!! Seriously!!!!!!! What?? I've had 2 chn, and no one has even had a problem before! I am 65 kg and 180 cm - so no extra padding issues either! This was after he used both internal and external methods. He did find my 'missing ovary' but after much prodding! Maybe they weren't very experienced??

Try not to worry.... I'm sure with an appointment that for away all is ok. X x

#7 Natttmumm

Posted 09 December 2012 - 04:42 PM

Did you ask for a copy of the report that goes to the doctor? You can always wait to get the report or o back and pick it up. The report is what's the doctor will get.
I have had many early preg scans and even at 8 weeks I had to have an internal. Sounds normal to me

#8 her mum

Posted 09 December 2012 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE (reebs @ 09/12/2012, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Off topic, but recently my sonographer actually asked if I was sure that I had two ovaries!!!!!!!! Seriously!!!!!!! What?? I've had 2 chn, and no one has even had a problem before! I am 65 kg and 180 cm - so no extra padding issues either! This was after he used both internal and external methods. He did find my 'missing ovary' but after much prodding! Maybe they weren't very experienced??

Try not to worry.... I'm sure with an appointment that for away all is ok. X x



I thought for over 10 years, and through approx 12 ultrasounds in the area, that I had only 1 ovary. It wasn't until after I actually gave birth that it came out of hiding lol!

#9 FiveAus

Posted 09 December 2012 - 04:55 PM

An ectopic pregnancy is a life threatening situation......I've been there, had a ruptured ectopic pregnancy (many, many years ago, was undiagnosed and was a lot further along than 8 weeks), and to recover from one is a life changing event. No way would you be sent away as if nothing were wrong if it was ectopic.

I once had a sonographer ask me if I had two kidneys. Yep, I do!

#10 Koobie83

Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:56 PM

Yeah my right ovary was hard to find it was really pushed over to the side and took my sonographer a bit to locate. I've had quite a few abdominal ultrasounds thanks to having an ovarian cyst years ago - so I know it wasn't always all the way out there!
OP - I'm pretty sure they would refer you to the hospital of your GP that day. It would be a huge breach of their duty of care to let you go home and potentially let it rupture.

#11 emnut

Posted 09 December 2012 - 06:05 PM


QUOTE (reebs @ 09/12/2012, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Off topic, but recently my sonographer actually asked if I was sure that I had two ovaries!!!!!!!! Seriously!!!!!!! What?? I've had 2 chn, and no one has even had a problem before! I am 65 kg and 180 cm - so no extra padding issues either! This was after he used both internal and external methods. He did find my 'missing ovary' but after much prodding! Maybe they weren't very experienced??

Try not to worry.... I'm sure with an appointment that for away all is ok. X x



Ovaries can actually be difficult to locate through ultrasound as they can hide.  Often they will have to put a fair bit of pressure on you to locate them (as explained to me by a very experience monographer who came into a room with me once to assist a less experienced one).

#12 steffijade81

Posted 09 December 2012 - 06:05 PM

Whenever I have had an early scan done around that time they have had to do it vaginally and have also always looked at my ovaries and taken photos. I asked this time why they did it and she said the dr likes to know a. they are healthy and b. which one the egg from this pregnancy has come from and something about which side is feeding the pregnancy. I just said ok but perhaps someone with more knowledge could explain that better. If it was ectopic they would tell you straight away.

#13 dreamingofcats

Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:18 AM

I hate having internals when looking at my ovaries as I find they always have to push right out to the sides and its incredibly uncomfortable. As for taking pictures of them, at my dating scan and looking at my disc after I have about half a dozen of my ovaries with volume etc.



#14 Percoriel

Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:39 AM

AT that gestation your baby would be still very tiny so often an internal is the only way to go to be able to see it properly.

In my experience the sonographers do tell you if something is wrong ie a miscarriage is happening that early on.

#15 porkchop's mama

Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:53 AM

OP
Hope you're okay.  Sorry you're having to deal with this..

From my own experience:
As PP have said, an ectopic is a medical emergency.  Wen mine was diagnosed, my GP rang me the afternoon of my scan telling me what to do if I got pain.  Was already bleeding.  The songorapher suspected something was off and I think that's how my scan got reported so quickly.

With my MMC, the songorapher told me outright when the first scan showed a slow heart rate and also at the next scan when she couldn't find a heart beat at all.  I stayed until the radiologist arrived and he spoke to me then and there to confirm what I had to do next.  He rang the referring doctor.

As painful as it was both times, I'm glad that the news was broken to me quickly and 'bluntly'.

Best of luck OP.

XXX

#16 SeaPrincess

Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:27 PM

Did you get a report from the radiologist?  A sonographer shouldn't tell you anything - they take the images and a specialist writes the report.  However, if the sonographer suspected an ectopic, I would expect them to get the radiologist in to look at it on the spot and for something to be done immediately - ectopic pregnancy is not something that should wait.

#17 PerthFembo

Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:11 PM

Thanks for all the replies. I did not get the report that goes to the gp but I'm confident from all your comments I don't need to stress about an ectopic.

I'm still slightly nervous since everyone  I know was able to see something with the external scan at that gestation (was very clear with DD) but I guess I'll find out for sure tomorrow. Thanks again

#18 Covert

Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:26 PM

My sonographer told me right then and there that my ectopic pregnancy was in my left tube.  Pointed it out to me and have me a print out of it to take to my OB who I saw immediately afterwards.

I was admitted to hospital that night and had surgery the next day.

I was about 6 weeks along.

There is no way you would have been sent off on your merry way if it was an ectopic pregnancy.

Good luck!




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