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#1 mummame

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

Hi,

I think I am right in assuming that I will be paying for Christmas and boxing day at my son's daycare centre. I am not sure why this is. It is just because we have that day booked all year round. I just don't see how it is fair when there is no way a child care centre would operate on Christmas or boxing day? And I know that they still have to pay their staff but thats true of all businesses who will close and make no money on these days. To make it worse we also miss out on new years day this year as well.

Does anyone know why?

#2 ~floss~

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:27 PM

If the centre closes then you shouldnt have to pay - mine is closing for the week so Im not getting charged.

I do know of some that dont charge for public holidays but then their daily charge is higher to cover it.

So even though im not getting charged for the week - the other weeks I do pay are probably a bit higher than normal IYKWIM?

#3 NotBitzerMaloney

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:28 PM

Because if you didn't have to pay for the public holidays, they would just charge you more for the days you were there - with total expenditure being the same over the course of the year.

People whose children attend on a Monday have this a lot more often


#4 Bluenomi

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:31 PM

We don't pay for Christmas-New year period because the centre is closed. We do pay for all the other public holidays though since they still have to pay their staff and their rent etc.

#5 jobo77

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:33 PM

Our centre charges for all the public holidays throughout the year except the xmas period - they close for 2 weeks this year (in the past it has only been a week) and we aren't getting charged. I think it depends on the centre as to whether you get charged.

#6 Holidayromp

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:33 PM

Having to pay for public holidays was one of the main reasons why we didn't end up putting DD2 in preschool.

#7 JustBeige

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:33 PM

Yep ours used to.  Used to annoy the daylights out of me.   Thjey also used to charge you for the time they were closed down over Christmas.

Their reasoning was it was to ensure we kept our place at the centre. *snort*

They did however, used to let you do make up days if your normal day was a public holiday.

#8 casime

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:34 PM

Yes, I've copped all the public holidays this year as well.  Bit annoying, but nothing you can do about it.  They're putting their fees up $10 per day next year as well, so it's a double grrrr.   I've applied for holidays on those days, so I'll only pay half fees.  Is that an option at your centre?

#9 Julie3Girls

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:35 PM

If a centre charges for public holiday, then Christmas Day/Boxing day and New Years is just another public holiday.


I was lucky - the centres I used all closed over the Christmas period (one for 2 weeks, the other for 4 weeks), so I wasn't paying for those public holidays. Which suited me as I was on leave - would have been a pain in the backside if I was working over the Christmas holidays.

I still paid for other public holidays during the year.

I always treat my fees as a weekly thing, same way my pay is a constant amount. So if there is a public holiday in that week .. well, I'm getting paid the same at the end of the week, with the added bonus of an extra day with my children.

#10 SeaPrincess

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:37 PM

We used to go to a centre that did not charge for any public hols, vacations, even illness. They were losing money hand over fist because there was no incentive (or should it be penalty?) for not giving notice of absences and no opportunity to fill vacancies with casual attendees.  I was a very vocal supporter of them starting to charge for all absences - our town was in danger of losing the only daycare centre!

FTR, I would object to paying when no service is provided, such as during a Christmas shutdown longer than just the public hols.

Edited by SeaPrincess, 06 December 2012 - 02:42 PM.


#11 LeggyBlonde

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE (Holidayromp @ 06/12/2012, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Having to pay for public holidays was one of the main reasons why we didn't end up putting DD2 in preschool.


How interesting.

#12 mummame

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

We could have applied for holidays at 50% off but of course this had a closing date of october and I had no idea/wasn't thinking about it in october!

#13 boatiebabe

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

I never knew centres were open over the Christmas/New Year period.

When I first started my DD in daycare she went on a Monday and we had to pay even on public holidays which I thought was a bit unfair. It came to the point that no one wanted their kids in on a Monday!

I don't see how it is fair that only one group of parents have to 'pay' the public holiday wages of staff. Surely that should be shared over the entire centre.

Eventually after a lot of complaints they changed their rules and if the centre was not operational on that day you did not have to pay.

#14 Queen Yoda

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:50 PM

For our daycare, fees are paid until the last operating day before Xmas.  Fees kick in again 2 weeks later when the centre opens for the new year.  All other public holidays are charged.  

I just assumed that the weekly fees are rigged to cover permanent staff costs for the 2 Xmas week break anyway.  I don't have a problem with it, works fine for us.

#15 CourtesanNewton

Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:00 PM

QUOTE
For our daycare, fees are paid until the last operating day before Xmas. Fees kick in again 2 weeks later when the centre opens for the new year. All other public holidays are charged.


Same here, although the rate they charge for the other public holidays is a bit lower than a normal day's rate.

#16 SeaPrincess

Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:36 AM

QUOTE (boatiebabe @ 06/12/2012, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never knew centres were open over the Christmas/New Year period.

I never knew until last year that they weren't.  It is basically forcing their customers to take leave from their own jobs (or find alternative arrangements) when it suits them, which I think is wrong.

#17 123tree

Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:48 AM

QUOTE (boatiebabe @ 06/12/2012, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't see how it is fair that only one group of parents have to 'pay' the public holiday wages of staff. Surely that should be shared over the entire centre.

Eventually after a lot of complaints they changed their rules and if the centre was not operational on that day you did not have to pay.


I feel like this.  I work casual and don't get paid for public holidays and I find it very frustrating that I have to pay for the kids not to go when I think it should be spread out over the cost of the whole year.

#18 spear_maiden

Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:00 AM

For the Xmas period, our centre remains open excepting public holidays.  The number of children attending tho drops significantly so it ends up being an all ages group (excluding nursery kids) in the largest room and the appropriate amt of staff.

TBH, I've never thought twice about whether or not we're paying for Xmas day etc as public holidays, as our centre remains open it's just another week of daycare costs.  Perhaps I'd feel differently if the centre closed for 2 weeks and we were still charged a normal rate.

Regarding public holidays in general, our centre charges normal rate for them and does not offer another day of attendance to make up for the lost day.  Last year, they would do this if the centre closed for an unscheduled reason (eg. the possibility of flooding).  I thought the pub hol charging was pretty standard and that's why Mondays were the day with the fewest enrolments for most places.

#19 SlinkyMalinki

Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:07 AM

Ours charges for public holidays, I assumed it was normal.

#20 domestically~challenged

Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:12 AM

Our centre doesn't have a shutdown period. Lots of industries don't let you take time off during that period so what a strain on families.

Public holidays are charged at full fee all year round.

#21 apple80

Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:13 AM

I've just accepted a childcare place starting just before Christmas, but won't be using it until January. If I don't pay for the holidays, someone else will nick the place. Cheeky! But to be honest I'm over the moon to have the place and not have to pay three times as much for a nanny.

#22 UncommonSense

Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:18 AM

Even if they didn't charge for public holidays you would be still paying the same amount each year even if it was spread out.

#23 Rainbow Lemur

Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:38 AM

QUOTE (boatiebabe @ 06/12/2012, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never knew centres were open over the Christmas/New Year period.

When I first started my DD in daycare she went on a Monday and we had to pay even on public holidays which I thought was a bit unfair. It came to the point that no one wanted their kids in on a Monday!

I don't see how it is fair that only one group of parents have to 'pay' the public holiday wages of staff. Surely that should be shared over the entire centre.

Eventually after a lot of complaints they changed their rules and if the centre was not operational on that day you did not have to pay.


I couldn't agree more.  It must be one of the few businesses that expects a small grouo of customers to pay more than others.  It really frustrated to me that I had to pay twice.  The childcare centre and a nanny on top.  

It makes no sense to make those missing out on the service to carry all of the costs of the day.  It's not like they woild charge more on days the heating or cooling costs are higher etc.  Or charge more for kid that need a higher carer ratio etc etc Speading the cost seems a much fairer system.

  

QUOTE (UncommonSense @ 07/12/2012, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even if they didn't charge for public holidays you would be still paying the same amount each year even if it was spread out.


It's not the same if only those with regular days on the public holidays pay.

#24 seayork2002

Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:41 AM

I presume they pay the staff like we get paid when we take holidays so I will happily pay.

#25 QueenIanthe

Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:41 AM

Ours closes for a couple of weeks so we don't pay.




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