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#1 Bwok~Bwok

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:30 AM

DN who is 13 draws really well so I was thinking of getting him something to help with his 'art'!

What would you recommend?

I was thinking maybe a book that will help him with details in his drawings - he has APD so it needs to be more 'visual'

Or if it was art supplies - what would you recommend?

Thanks original.gif

Edited: shocking spelling - I'm on a roll today!

Edited by Bwok~Bwok, 29 November 2012 - 11:32 AM.

#2 nup

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:35 AM

Nothing beats a box of derwents if he doesn't already own some. Otherwise a cheap plastic film camera like a Lomo. Google lomography if you haven't heard of it.

#3 seayork2002

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:36 AM

I have no artistic ability whatsover but annoyingly my husband does original.gif I will ask his advice if ok with you but as for drawing I am not sure what to suggest I do know of good brands in paints etc. though.

Oh one thing is my husband loves Windsor & Newtown sketch books (black hard material type ones).

#4 Lagom

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

I'd give him some different mediums to try.  Canvas, oil colors or acrylics, watercolors, charcoal, pastels (for example, I'm not suggesting you buy the lot!  biggrin.gif) and perhaps a 'how to' book to go with it.  Are there any art classes in your area for kids?  He might enjoy a 'voucher' as well as some supplies and books.  
Sounds fun!

#5 Sif

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

What does he draw with?

My son loves pencils (not colour), finer liners, pastels, oh and paper - we buy him reams of printer paper for Christmas/birtdays (no, not very environmentally friendly I know, but he loves to practice, practice, practice and he'd easily go through 20 scetchbooks in a year (which are relatively expensive) if he only used them for practicing.

#6 seayork2002

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

another thing, maybe not so much for canvas's but we have learnt (or him indoors has told me original.gif) that for somethings paying more/better brand does make a difference in quality, Daler Rowney (sp?) is another good brand.

#7 FeralLIfeHacker

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

My dd is into art, she's had her work in 2 exhibitions now original.gif

She started with Derwent pencils and good quality sketchpad, she uses pastels and now she loves oil-based paints on canvas using mixed media.
She actually just uses cheap oil based paint from Spotlight or even cheap as chips and has good results with it.
DD prefers better quality paper and canvas but finds the cheaper paints fine.

#8 Berndt TÅ‘st

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:50 AM

Charcoal pencils are good.
Kneadable erasers (they look a bit like Blu-Tac) are really useful
If he's interested in drawing people, volunteer to model for him (I mean clothed of course, unless you're super-dedicated tongue.gif ). It's hard to ask people to model for you.
A full-length or table-top easel to prop up his paper/canvas.

#9 Bwok~Bwok

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:55 AM

ATM  he's still drawing what is in his head, so hasn't really ventured out - if that makes sense. So a book to show him how to draw figures, landscapes, shading etc

He started HS this year and chose Art as one of his subjects - he's emjoying it.

Also if you could keep on suggesting quality brands in art pencils - that'll be good.

#10 Academic

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:58 AM

QUOTE (blithely2 @ 29/11/2012, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nothing beats a box of derwents if he doesn't already own some.

I received a box of watercolour Derwents for my 10th birthday - one of my favourite gifts of all time. Twenty years later I still have them and use them!

#11 Bob-the-skull

Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:58 AM

derwents were the "must have" pencil when i was a child... not sure if they are still "all that" though.

I would be looking at some good "how to draw books" or even some tutorial videos?

DS1 has very low verbal comprehension and an art class of someone explaining things would be pointless but being able to watch how someone does something would be fantastic.

#12 JJ

Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Bwok~Bwok @ 29/11/2012, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also if you could keep on suggesting quality brands in art pencils - that'll be good.

Caran d'Ache are fantastic, but so is their price tag (though sometimes you can find good deals on eBay especially if looking o/s).

My big box of Cd'A pencils is one of my most prized possessions.

#13 Lagom

Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:13 PM

QUOTE (-*meh*- @ 29/11/2012, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
derwents were the "must have" pencil when i was a child... not sure if they are still "all that" though.

I would be looking at some good "how to draw books" or even some tutorial videos?

DS1 has very low verbal comprehension and an art class of someone explaining things would be pointless but being able to watch how someone does something would be fantastic.

I don't think I've ever been to an art class that was a like a lecture  ;) .  It's pretty hands on I've found and learning is done through observation and one on one guidence so I think it's worth looking into.  Community houses often have cheap classes that are worthwhile.  original.gif

#14 seayork2002

Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:18 PM

Reply from my husband

"I would always recommend watercolours, that is where I started at 13. They are one of the most frustrating mediums ever, but if you nail them you can do anything after it. Would deff suggest something that introduces colour.

Get a Windsor and newton watercolour pan set, I still have the one I was bought as a teenager 18 years ago and STILL use it."

#15 JingleBlitzenBells

Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:51 PM

Honestly for someone just starting out, you can get the Monte Mart brand and they arent too shabby.  They have a range of pencils; charcoals; chalk and oil pastels etc.  

Derwents are still awesome when it comes to pigment and ease of use.

Lots of different mediums and lots of sketch pads /paper.

#16 JJ

Posted 29 November 2012 - 02:56 PM

QUOTE (debspotatohead @ 29/11/2012, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The $2 shops have a variety of canvases and Art Books, pencils, etc.

Gotta agree with this - there's a $2 at our local shopping centre and they have a massive range of art materials (compared to the Reject Shop that only has a few bits and bobs, and Lincraft which has a lot, but is also a lot more expensive). Definitely worth checking out the cheap shops. I also found some fantastic stuff at a Japanese import store (Daiso) recently - great pastels and sketchbooks at $2.80 a pop! We go through a fair bit of art materials at our house and it can get pretty expensive.

Edited by JJ, 29 November 2012 - 02:58 PM.

#17 More than a Mother

Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:04 PM

Book - drawing on the right side of the brain. Teaches you to draw what you see, rather than what you think you see.

#18 Gioiello

Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:25 PM

I second ssorento's recommendation for Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain.  Great resource.

The Derwents are still a favourite pencil of mine.  I have been using (and steadily replacing!) the same set I was given as part of a birthday present years and years ago.

The kneadable rubbers are excellent as well.  If he is into pencil drawing, a fixative spray is also a good idea for finishing off his work so it won't smudge.

Derwent also do a watercolour pencil that can be good to use as well.  Lovely effects.

#19 More than a Mother

Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (JJ @ 29/11/2012, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My big box of Cd'A pencils is one of my most prized possessions.

I still have mine from school, so 25 years ago. The watercolour ones. They are just beautiful. The tin is battered, but the pencils shine on.

And I also used to task my students with drawing common objects from a diffent angle. It really helps to focus on the reality. They found it fun too.

Edited by ssorrrento, 29 November 2012 - 03:29 PM.

#20 Barefoot

Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:42 PM

Paper would be a good gift too, you just use so much of it.
I love my derwent pencils, I was given them for Christmas at least 18 years ago and I still have them in my treasure drawer.

#21 Mumma2furrykids

Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:46 PM

What a talent to have!

How about enrolling into an Art school - after school?

Otherwise books, paper, sketch pads, pencils, paints are wonderful rewarding gifts.

#22 mollybot

Posted 29 November 2012 - 05:34 PM

Bert Dodson's "Keys to Drawing" is a really good one.

I also second the watercolours - I got the Sakura Koi Water Colours Field set. I got it from Amazon, but its now saying it doesn't deliver to Australia. You can buy them from ebay as well though.

I don't know if you have Riot Art & Craft where you are but I find them brilliant - they have monthly sales where they have canvas, sketchbooks, paints and brushes at half price - they also do beginners introductory sets for acrylics, oils and watercolours. I'd also second Spotlight for supplies.

Watercolour pencils are fabulous. You can also get water based oils which go on like pastels but which you can dissolve with water and a brush.

I also like buying coloured papers - they're loads of fun with pastels and crayons....

Honestly - art supply shops are like Lolly Shops for me biggrin.gif

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