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#1 pinkblue

Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:06 AM

I am doing some research into bottles etc incase I need to bottle feed my baby. I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice as to which bottles, teats, sterilizer is best for a newborn baby?

I already have a few Tommee tippee closer to nature bottles but I'm wondering if others are better. Ive heard the pigeon peristaltic bottles are good. There seems to be a new teat/bottles out now the peristaltic plus. Are these better than the original teats? I've also heard good things about the medela calma bottle/teats?

Also which formula is the best for newborns? I've heard good things about bellamy's? Should I stay away from NAN formulas?

And lastly, which sterilizer would you recommend to fit wide neck bottles?

I'm not definitely planning on bottle feeding, I just want to be prepared as to what to get in case I need to. I have some breast issues that may make breastfeeding difficult although I will be trying my hardest to make breastfeeding work for us in the beginning.

#2 ~shannon~

Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:22 AM

From my experience there's no real difference from one brand over another, except for the quality of the plastic (ie. BPA-free or not BPA-free). I bought lots of different brands because DD rejected bottles full stop at five months of age. I had to stop breastfeeding suddenly due to ill health and having to take strong medications. It was an incredibly stressful time as we bought every bottle under the sun to get her to feed, but she rejected all of them (this was an incredibly expensive exercise!). In the end, we had to starve her so that she would eventually suck and feed due to being so hungry. I do not recommend this method one bit, but it was necessary and we had a midwife assist us who also said this was the only option left.

Once she got the hang of it I was given some Avent bottles so I ended up using that brand the most and bought extra bottles, teats, etc as they all work together. I just had a microwave steriliser which worked fine (and much cheaper than the electric ones). Since you've already got Tommy Tippee, just stick with those for now.

As for formula, my midwife recommended Nestle NAN and I found it was the best for my DD. Another brand (can't remember which one) gave DD terrible constipation. Not sure why you would stay to "stay away" from NAN.  shrug.gif

Good luck with breastfeeding OP, I hope you overcome any hurdles on the way.

#3 pinkblue

Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

I heard there were some issues with NAN formula awhile back? Lots of babies had reactions to it?

#4 Escapin

Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:32 AM

My DD had to have formula for a few days when she was first born. She had NAN, no problems. Can't really comment on the bottle issues, once we got breastfeeding going, she wouldn't have a bar of any bottle!

If you're thinking you might have issues with breastfeeding, I would STRONGLY recommend that you get a lactation consultant lined up. If you can afford it, a private lactation consultant so they can come to you whenever you need help. If you're in Sydney I can PM you the details of the lady that I saw. I'm still breastfeeding DD now (at 19months OMG!) and I would have given up in the first 2 weeks.

#5 Dylan's Mummy

Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

My sister gave me some Advent bottles and a microwave sterilizer. I bought new teats though. I have since replaced the 2nd hand one with some new bottles. I also bought an Advent manual breast pump. The sterilizer is really easy to use.

I haven't given my bub formula. I was going to buy a can I case I needed it but I figured that if I needed some I could always go and buy a can.  I just have a few expressed bottles in the freezer for if I need them.

#6 PattiODoors

Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:48 AM

DD had Tommee Tippee Closer to Nature bottles. She was a bit windy and I found that these helped relieve that post feed trapped wind rather than the Avent bottles.
DS, on the other hand, has no trouble with Avent as he is less windy and that is what we use now.

For both my babies, I was recommended S26 Gold by the paediatrician and midwives, which suited them both fine. However my friend's baby suffered constipation with it.

I'm sure you can get samples of formula from pharmacies ( I may be wrong), ask and try a few and see which one suits your baby.

Good luck!

#7 WithSprinkles

Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:50 AM

I have medela bottles and steriliser and they have been fine (my baby is breastfed but I do express sometimes), no problems with bottle/nipple refusal either (though I did avoid bottle feeding for the first 6 weeks).

I did buy the calma teat (which is supposed to be good for breastfed babies) but DD had trouble getting milk out of it..I actually tried sucking on it myself and couldn't get it to work! Not sure if I did something wrong putting it on or anything though. Since the regular teats worked fine, I didn't worry. I don't think there is a huge difference between most of the brands.

I have been breastfeeding my DD now for over 6 months.  I also took a breastfeeding class before her birth but found that much of the info covered in the class I had already found out myself through reading stuff on the internet (still a good class though).
That early support I got in hospital was essential to my breastfeeding experience. The midwives I had were fantastic.

ETA: Since I don't use formula I don't really have any advice for that, except I have heard a few of my friends mention that they changed formulas after the NAN issues were publicised.

Edited by VanillaIcecream, 28 November 2012 - 11:54 AM.

#8 bakesgirls

Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:03 PM

I used, and still use, NUK and Tommee Tippee Closer to Nature bottles. My DDs have never been too fussy over what bottle they were given. I just made sure they were BPA free.

All of them have been fed with S26 Gold from the time I stopped breastfeeding until they progressed on to cows milk. None of my girls ever really had any issues with constipation like some babies do when they are on S26.

All bottles and accessories were sterilised in Milton.

#9 Ice Queen

Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE (pinkblue @ 28/11/2012, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I heard there were some issues with NAN formula awhile back? Lots of babies had reactions to it?

Yes they changed an ingredient about 5mo ago.  My DS had a reaction as did thousands of other babies.  Personally I would never use it again and would never recommend it to anyone.  To the PP's who used it with no problems it was probably prior to this.  I use Karicare Aptimal Gold with no problems now.

I use Avent bottles.  Also I have a cheap Big W brand microwave sterilizer.  It is great and no different to the Avent one which was over 3x the price.  I borrowed an Avent one with my 1st baby so have used both.

#10 premmie_29weeks

Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:16 PM

I've bottle fed two kids almost from birth. We used avent bpa free bottles, and initially pigeon teats. Once they were a bit older I used the avent teats. Pigeon I found was better for the first few weeks. Try get the ones that have no inner ring...then you can use pigeon teats on the avent bottles.

They are hardy, I'm still using the ones I bought for ds1 who is well over 2.

I used a microwave steriliser and nan ha gold formula for both. Apart from a bit of ongoing constipation from time to time we have had no issues with the nan formulas.

#11 lucky 2

Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:14 PM

If you are to be bfing in the beginning (good luck!) I'd probably go for a longer teat rather than a short one, so Avent is not ideal as it has a short teat (due to the wide and bulbous base that wont be taken into the mouth) and look for one that will go deeper in the mouth.
All the best.

#12 raone

Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:24 PM

Tommee tippee have a microwave/chemical steriliser that I use which is good because I have the bottles and it all designed to fit them.

#13 LovenFire

Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:28 PM

Avent bottle with my first DS, he loved them and refused any of the Tommee tippie range.  On nan formula as s26 made him constipated and generally whingy.

Ds2 hated avent bottles, has accepted tt bottles and is okay on nan ha.  I too heard about the change in nan formula and was a bit concerned however it has not caused me any grief. S26 has sooooo not on as he was unhappy on it and he didn't accept karicare.

Be prepared to try a range of formulas, bottles and dummies to find out your baby's preferences

#14 José

Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:59 PM

We have used bottles at times for IBM. DS didn't like medela Palma or regular. He does like life factory glass bottled.

#15 Princess.cranky.pants

Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:03 PM

Agree it will depend on the babies preferences.

My three girls were all bottle fed at some stage. They all had different teat/bottles and formula brand.

Sometimes it's not easy finding the right bottle or formular that works for your baby. We went though bottles/teats/formula finding the right one for DD3 who had wind/feeding issues.

I hated Avent. They leak if they are not done up just right. Very fast flow, even newborn teats. None of my girls could handle the fast flow. Not a good teat if you are breastfeeding.

DD3 couldn't get a seal on the closer to nature bottles. I was told that this is a common thing with these bottle because the teat is so fat. DD2 liked them and had no issues.

DD1 loved Pigeon peristaltic but Pigeon is hard to get now.

Bottles do not need to be expensive brand names kind. Two of my children had sucking issues and the experts we saw for help said the cheap skinny bottles you get from any supermarket were the best. Cheap bottles and narrow teats worked best with DD3s feeding issues.

All formula is made to the same strict standards and there isn't much difference between them all. Child Health recommend just starting with the cheapest (Hinze). No need to buy expensive formulas if your baby is happy on a cheaper one. Also make sure that what you choose is readily available from any supermarket.
We have used Nutricia (Karicare) and Nan. Nan is one of the most expensive and no need to use if your baby doesn't need it. Not sure if it's okay now after the issues- I would ask a midwifes about that.

Don't buy any more bottles till after the baby is born. Just wait and see how things go with breastfeeding. Also you want to avoid having a heap of bottles your baby doesn't like.

I wouldn't bother with a sterilizer just yet. If you only use bottles occasionally there is no need for one. Hot, soapy water works just as well. DD3 was bottle feed full time and I never used a sterilizer.

#16 BadgerBasher

Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:29 PM

Bean used only Avent bottles for a while, until she was happy to go on to any bottle.

S26 gave her horrendous constipation, ditto NAN, karicare, and NAN HA. She thrived on heinz, and remained on the newborn one until 11m when she went to cows milk.

I had a Big W steriliser. worked fine original.gif

#17 minidiamond

Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:26 AM

Quick one on teats - my DS is almost exclusively breastfed but we had to comp feed for the first two weeks. We had Avent bottles but he didn't like the teat so on the advice of lady in baby store, got pigeon and he took to those immediately. They seem to be a lot softer

Good luck !

#18 ScarfaceClaw

Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:55 AM

When DS was in nnu they told us to use the cheapest bottles/teats... there is no need for fancy bottles, and trying to get teats that are closer to breast is not realistic and often causes more confusion.
We bought the cheap ones from target that came in a pack with a steriliser. He;s perfectly happy with them.

Cheap steriliser too. If you are using EBM you really only need to hot soapy wash tho, we only ran the sterilser when we used formula which wasn't very often.

S26 we had issues with constipation, and Nan we changed after they changed the recipe. Now we use bellamys, with no problem.

#19 pinkelephant

Posted 29 November 2012 - 05:25 AM

I'm watching this thread with interest. Catch of the day had a sale on the avent gift set but when i did some reading the bottles are not BPA free and the Avent website even explained that there was no research on humans to suggest it was a problem.

I've heard bad things about BPA so I will not be using Avent.

#20 adl

Posted 29 November 2012 - 05:41 AM

I used Avent and still am two years later.... We used S26 as the gold can cause constipation on some babies,,,it was what he started on at hospital due to no supply....and they did have the other types but he didn't require extra or specialized formula

My DH just went to the chemist and bought the newborn starter pack while I was in hospital and we didn't have any issues at all...

I think it's great you are getting prepared, good luck!

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