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#1 Guest_- Poppy -_*

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:28 PM

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Edited by 3Bella3, 15 December 2012 - 09:21 AM.


#2 credence

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:32 PM

I'm in the camp where I think it's just easier to split it evenly.

However, if you want to be pedantic, the only fair way to do it would be for everybody to record the price of everything they personally consumed (such as in their phone or on a bit of paper) then add it up and make sure they pay that exact amount.

To be honest though, that doesn't sound like much fun and inevitably I don't think it's foolproof either.

Just make sure that you personally bring lots of small notes and coins, pay your exact amount and wipe your hands of everyone else's woes.

#3 woodelf

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:35 PM

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Just make sure that you personally bring lots of small notes and coins, pay your exact amount and wipe your hands of everyone else's woes.
THIS

#4 Charlies Angel

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:35 PM

We're grownups. We just split it evenly - or even throw in a bit more if we felt that we had the extra glass of wine.

Swings, roundabouts...

Alternatively, if this is a problem for friends who eat less/ are on tighter budgets, then choose venues where you order at the bar. That way everyone covers their own costs.

If we are planning a big night out with the girls, we throw in the same amount to 'kitty' and just pay from that, rather than scrambling for the right change all of the time. It also means that one person doesn't get stuck 'shouting' the $80 round of cocktails.

I hate $$ hassles ruining a good night.

#5 Guest_Maybelle_*

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:36 PM

We always split it evenly.  And tip.  I am really glad (and lucky!) that my friends and I are all on the same page on this.  I hate going out to dinner and then ending the night with people calculating what they owe down to the last 5c.  Mind you, we generally go places that are not too expensive, and we ofter share dishes, so there wouldn't be much difference either way.

The only exception might be if we go somewhere that isn't BYO and someone drinks a lot, or drinks expensive drinks...I am a cocktail drinker and I don't think my friends should have to pay for my martinis when they are drinking beer  original.gif

#6 KylieY

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

We always split evenly. Everyone is in agreeance, so no stress.

#7 katpaws

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

sit at a separate table....

maybe get people to pay as they order

Splitting is fine most times, but definately not fair if you haven't had alcoholic drinks or seafood for example. I've been to functions where the shared bill have cost us heaps, soemtimes three times for the cost of the food and drink we have had.

You know who your real friends are when it comes to shared bills....

Edited by katpaws, 27 November 2012 - 01:38 PM.


#8 GoodGollyMolly

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:38 PM

I think restaurants should just let you split bills. It drives me nuts that they dont. Every place I went to in the UK would let you do this, te waitress would brig a little eftpos machine out and do a quick round of the table it would take a few minutes and done. This wasn't fancy restaurants either, cheaper places (like a fasta pasta type place) would do it too.

Its part of good service I think, do people for have that awkward bill split to work out at the end of a meal which is not the best way to end a meal I think.

#9 missfrizzle

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:40 PM

I make sure I always have smaller notes and coins so I know I can pay close enough to the exact amount. If I have had roughly the same as everyone eles, I don't mind splitting the bill and don't mind if I have to throw in an extra few dollars. But being a non wine drinker, I do not wish to be forking out for a couple of $100 bottles if wine, when I have had 2 beers.

#10 melaine

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE (credence @ 27/11/2012, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm in the camp where I think it's just easier to split it evenly.


It is easier, of course.

But I'd prefer friends to come along and order cheap options rather than skip a dinner all together because they were worried about splitting a more expensive bill.

If I've had a few glasses of wine and 3 courses I don't expect someone who ordered a main meal and a soft drink to subsidise my choices.

#11 ~~HappyMummy~~

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:42 PM

QUOTE (Charlies Angel @ 27/11/2012, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're grownups. We just split it evenly - or even throw in a bit more if we felt that we had the extra glass of wine.

Swings, roundabouts...

Alternatively, if this is a problem for friends who eat less/ are on tighter budgets, then choose venues where you order at the bar. That way everyone covers their own costs.

I hate $$ hassles ruining a good night.


+ 1.

#12 JustBeige

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:44 PM

Dh's uncle is a split down to the last cent person.  We (us, ILs and SIL and BIL) let him work out how much he owes then we just split the rest evenly between us.  He is a PITA and his wife and kids get really embarrassed and often walk away and leave him sitting at the table trying to find the correct change.   We always make sure we tip our waitperson (if they earnt it) separately, as he also doesnt believe in tipping.

QUOTE
Alternatively, if this is a problem for friends who eat less/ are on tighter budgets, then choose venues where you order at the bar. That way everyone covers their own costs.
  This is what we do now if we have to dine with him.  MIL stamps her foot and ensures they go to a club or similar so its not a big fat hassle.


The only other thing we used to do when we went with groups of people is decide before hand if we are just splitting or paying for individuals.     or both and those who want to just pay their share, must keep a tally or they have to split.

I think though if you are upfront about it, its harder to complain and cause a fuss when the bill comes.

#13 Justaduck

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:44 PM

We look at the menu before we go & decide what we want. Then make sure we take the exact amount or up to the nearest $5 and throw it in. We don't have much $$ & usually pick the cheapest things. Also we only drink the free bottle or water, or at most I will get one glass of coke.

Last time we did this, the price of two of our meals (burgers at Hogs Breath) was less than what most people got (prawns and steak) individually. Splitting the bill is all well and good when you all eat similar meals/cocktails etc & have the finances to do so, but for us going out is something we have to save for beforehand so we can't afford to cover extra costs of others meals.


My ex MIL used to pay the bill, then type up an excel spreadsheet as to who consumed what, and email it out with her bank acct details

#14 Holidayromp

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:47 PM

I am happy to pay what we have eaten but certainly not happy about subsidising other people's food choices.  

There are always people in any group that are happy to take advantage of this and have no problem chomping through the most expensive dishes and drinking the more expensive wines but when it comes to paying up their share suddenly they don't seem to want to and are more than happy to let others subsidise their meal choices.

Bill splitting is a very unfair way of dining and the only way to ensure that it is fair on you is to firstly contact the restaurant to see if they allow part payments to be made of the bill if not make sure that you have plenty of change on you to ensure that only your meal gets paid for.  If you have to calculate then so be it, better than subsidising someone elses choices when you can barely afford to eat out yourself.

#15 Tigerdog

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:49 PM

I'd actually take it right back the beginning and ask the restaurant when making the booking if they do separate billing and if not, I may not even go there to begin with (dependent on how good the food is compared to other places of course!).  Most may make it an across-the-board thing but if you perhaps made it known at booking time that you won't be giving them your business if they can't facilitate separate billing then they may make an exception for you.  I've never actually done this before, has anyone tried this and if so, does it actually work?  I know they're busy and all but money is money!

Edited by Tigerdog, 27 November 2012 - 01:50 PM.


#16 EBeditor

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:50 PM

I think it's best to order from a place which does a set menu or banquet so that everyone can pay the same price + their drinks.

#17 EBeditor

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:55 PM

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My ex MIL used to pay the bill, then type up an excel spreadsheet as to who consumed what, and email it out with her bank acct details
.

Wow.

#18 YodaTheWrinkledOne

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Charlies Angel @ 27/11/2012, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're grownups. We just split it evenly - or even throw in a bit more if we felt that we had the extra glass of wine.

Swings, roundabouts...

this.  With our group of friends, it's never really been an issue.  Everyone always seems to throw in a couple of extra dollars to make sure that we don't come up short (most round up to nearest $5.  Those who don't drink pay a little less, those who do drink pay a little more.  It all comes out in the wash.

QUOTE (Charlies Angel @ 27/11/2012, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alternatively, if this is a problem for friends who eat less/ are on tighter budgets, then choose venues where you order at the bar. That way everyone covers their own costs.

This is what we have done as well. Easy peasy.

QUOTE (Charlies Angel @ 27/11/2012, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hate $$ hassles ruining a good night.

agree.  We pick restaurants/venues that will suit the people.

If I am organising the dinner, I'll pick a couple of options and then let people know know the rough cost of meals at each place (eg. entrees range $10-$18, mains range $15-$30, etc).  I'll also let people know if there is bill-splitting or not.  Most time, we just split the bill evenly anyway, but there have been one or two occasions where that didn't suit a couple for whatever reason. When that has happened, everyone kept track of their own costs and threw in a bit extra.  Wasn't a problem.  Easy enough to sort out what's going to happen before everyone arrives and eats.

We rarely go to licenced restaurants because it just makes the night that much more expensive, so we normally go to BYO places.  Plus, we have a couple of fussy wine drinkers and they prefer to bring their own anyway (too expensive to drink their selection at most restaurants).  

QUOTE (JustBeige @ 27/11/2012, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think though if you are upfront about it, its harder to complain and cause a fuss when the bill comes.

agree

QUOTE (broncosbabe @ 27/11/2012, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My ex MIL used to pay the bill, then type up an excel spreadsheet as to who consumed what, and email it out with her bank acct details

good grief!  rolleyes.gif

Edited by YodaTheWrinkledOne, 27 November 2012 - 02:06 PM.


#19 Feral-as-Meggs

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:58 PM

The sooner they bring in an automatic scanner which calculates your body composition before and after the meal and then just debits your account the better.

Seriously we mostly just split equally but round down any non-drinkers/vegetarians and round up the rest a bit.  Work groups we get a float of small notes and change beforehand, and everyone works out what they owe.  I usually wander off and let it be someone else's problem.  


#20 Wahwah

Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:59 PM

I always find this difficult. I have one girlfriend who used to have three courses, drink most of the wine, start with a cocktail and want to split the bill. Usually our other friend, who was both watching the money and calories, would have one glass of wine and a main. I'd probably sit in the middle. I'd be the one who would then say 'hang on a minute, X didn't have as much as us', even thought I wouldn't have had three courses either. Funny thing is friend 1 is earning about 3x more than friend 2.

Then there's the mother's groups nights out when some of us make the most of it, and others are less indulgent. I'm always one of the ones who eats and drinks more and I certainly don't think that others should then have to subsidise my meal.

If we go out with another couple I'd just split the bill. Unless we ordered Grange and they ordered De Bortoli.

So, I'm for paying for what you consume, but rounding up to the nearest 5 or 10 to ensure there's a sufficient tip.

#21 Libster

Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:05 PM

I like to just pay for what I ate/drank and my friends do the same. I don't drink alcohol so feel it's unfair that I have to subsidise others choices. If people think that's stingy then so be it.

#22 Z-girls rock

Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:10 PM

my friends and I are people who split evenly.

we would always find we have MORE money not less because there are those people who always put in extra for "the bread/wine/corkage' etc all the shared things and they usualy put in way to much.

I dont find it to be a drama.

and I am a vegetarian but I figure I am out to have a good time. Not niggle over a few dollars here and there (of course we are not talking about 5 hat restaurants here).

I DO agree though that if there are people in the group who people are tightening their belt (financially) for whatever reason and they want to order less and only pay for theirs etc then the group should follow their lead and not make a big deal about it.
For our friends it would be deviating from the norm but of course you can do that for friends because it is about having the night out.

#23 mum2345

Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:50 PM

I have a small amount of sympathy for the "split evenly" concept if there is little difference between what each person orders.

But if you have someone who orders a $10 to $15 meal and drinks the free tap water, it's not fair that they should have to split the bill with a table that eats $50 worth of food and several alcoholic drinks.  Especially if there is a significant disparity in income amongst the group.

And as a PP said, if there is an expectation that a bill will be split, then you have the silly situation where someone may decline an invitation because they can't afford the food and drink choices of the other people in the group.

Edited by mum2345, 27 November 2012 - 02:54 PM.


#24 nakedrhubarb

Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:53 PM

QUOTE (EBeditor @ 27/11/2012, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's best to order from a place which does a set menu or banquet so that everyone can pay the same price + their drinks.


I think this is the best way to go. Set menu and the ability to order at a bar for drinks will make it easier to manage.

#25 strawberrycakes

Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:00 PM

See I don't like the split evenly thing. DH & I are on a tight budget as it is, we don't drink & always choose cheaper meals.  No way do I want to pay for someones expensive meal & numerous alcholic drinks.  

We always just make sure we have smalelr notes & change when we go out with a big group.




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