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#1 Guest_CaptainOblivious_*

Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:42 PM

We know a family with a lot of kids. The younger ones ages are something like 2,3,5 and 6. The mum was telling me recently how they were buying one of those Big W pools that are a couple of metres across and a metre deep and will be filling it up for the summer.  She has no intention of fencing it and her plan for supervision is that she'll tell the kids not to go in there.

So, anyway... who do I report it to?

#2 WYSIWYG

Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:43 PM

Their Council.

#3 emlis22

Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:47 PM

The Building Dept at the relevant council. They will inspect it and, if necessary, place a building notice on it.

#4 hannahbug

Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:48 PM

Report it to your local council immediately.   Any pool that holds 30cm or more, is filtrated and 2000 litres MUST BE FENCED and compliant.

I have reported 7 of these pools since Thursday in one council region in QLD I know have the inspectors mobile phone number!  One pool was for the Same address.   They emptied it an then refilled it after he left!    They now have a fine.

These damn pools should be banned from sale!  Who agrees?  


#5 WYSIWYG

Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE (hannahbug @ 26/11/2012, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These damn pools should be banned from sale!  Who agrees?

I agree!

#6 Guest_CaptainOblivious_*

Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:54 PM

Thanks everyone. I wasn't sure whether it was a docs call (kids at risk of harm) or a building issue.

QUOTE (hannahbug @ 26/11/2012, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Report it to your local council immediately.   Any pool that holds 30cm or more, is filtrated and 2000 litres MUST BE FENCED and compliant.

I have reported 7 of these pools since Thursday in one council region in QLD I know have the inspectors mobile phone number!  One pool was for the Same address.   They emptied it an then refilled it after he left!    They now have a fine.

These damn pools should be banned from sale!  Who agrees?

I agree 100% that they should be banned. We had quite a heated discussion about it when she told me about it but the rest of the parents at the venue thought it was a brilliant idea. It costs $5 a kid at our local pool and it's a really low socioeconomic area so I understand that they want to have a swim, but really. nno.gif

I'm not sure that they have it yet, but they were planning on getting it this week.

#7 JustBeige

Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (hannahbug @ 26/11/2012, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These damn pools should be banned from sale!  Who agrees?

Actually I dont.  We had one. we fenced it though.

I DO think though they need to be sold with restrictions.  The main one being mandatory reporting from the retailer to the local Council.  The purchaser needs to supply 100 points of ID and the retailer needs to tell the relevant council or be fined.  

By doing this, the council then can proactively follow up on fencing of these larger pools.

I think banning them punishes the sensible people.

#8 ~Sorceress~

Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:15 PM

I think it's unfair that shops are allowed to SELL these pools at all without making it VERY clear what the fencing legislation is. sad.gif I like the idea of making ID mandatory at the point of sale original.gif .

One of our employees' flatmates has just purchased one of these pools. There are no children living in the house but, as I've pointed out, they don't know when a neighbouring child will stop by... sad.gif

#9 *Lib*

Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:16 PM

They'll soon realise that you have to empty them regularly too, they go all slimey if you don't.

#10 Feral Grey Mare

Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE (JustBeige @ 26/11/2012, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually I dont.  We had one. we fenced it though.

I DO think though they need to be sold with restrictions.  The main one being mandatory reporting from the retailer to the local Council.  The purchaser needs to supply 100 points of ID and the retailer needs to tell the relevant council or be fined.  

By doing this, the council then can proactively follow up on fencing of these larger pools.

I think banning them punishes the sensible people.


Perhaps retailers could hold the pool until they receive certification from council that fencing is approved? I don't know how sale of second hand pools would be monitored though.

#11 adl

Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:24 PM

FYI - my sister put in a pool fencing quotes have come in around $8000... She even looked at doing it through Bunnings but you have to concrete 1 m or so in so still a very big job! And don't save much either

She had to ring the council 5 times to confirm what is approved fencing and what isn't as many people have fencing but it's not the authorized kind ...inadvertently she report├Ęd neighbours as she wanted similar fencing not realizing that it wasn't an approved type

I looked at one of these pools wasn't worth it so we run through the sprinkler  biggrin.gif

#12 MrsW87

Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:31 PM

QUOTE (JustBeige @ 26/11/2012, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually I dont.  We had one. we fenced it though.

I DO think though they need to be sold with restrictions.  The main one being mandatory reporting from the retailer to the local Council.  The purchaser needs to supply 100 points of ID and the retailer needs to tell the relevant council or be fined.  

By doing this, the council then can proactively follow up on fencing of these larger pools.

I think banning them punishes the sensible people.



I agree with this. DH and I have bought one of these for the kids for Christmas as we have no interest in having a permanent pool. HOWEVER DH has also bought all of the stuff to fence it off. We have spoken to the council regarding the requirements for a pool fence and the fence he will build will all be in accordance with it.


#13 my serenity

Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:44 PM

QUOTE (*Lib* @ 26/11/2012, 03:16 PM)
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They'll soon realise that you have to empty them regularly too, they go all slimey if you don't.


Actually they come with a filter,  we use chlorine and they don't go slimey . We use one every year but 2 out of my 3 kids are teenagers. It's in. Small backyard with 6 ft colourbond fencing and on neighbouring sides there's an over 8ft drop and no way of climbing , my side fence is padlocked and my back doors kept locked at all times and I carry the only set of keys. I supervise my youngest at all times usually sitting in there while she plays and if any other kids make it into the backyard it's totally their parent responsibility as my fences are higher than standard pool fences and locked. If I were in a house with standard fences and inadequate ability to lock up I wouldn't have one. It's ashame that local pools aren't cheaper to use as for a large family it's not a cost they can afford every few days. In Canberra their are few options to cool off in summer and our local pools charge silly prices.

#14 Coffeegirl

Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:03 PM

QUOTE (my serenity @ 26/11/2012, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually they come with a filter,  we use chlorine and they don't go slimey . We use one every year but 2 out of my 3 kids are teenagers. It's in. Small backyard with 6 ft colourbond fencing and on neighbouring sides there's an over 8ft drop and no way of climbing , my side fence is padlocked and my back doors kept locked at all times and I carry the only set of keys. I supervise my youngest at all times usually sitting in there while she plays and if any other kids make it into the backyard it's totally their parent responsibility as my fences are higher than standard pool fences and locked. If I were in a house with standard fences and inadequate ability to lock up I wouldn't have one. It's ashame that local pools aren't cheaper to use as for a large family it's not a cost they can afford every few days. In Canberra their are few options to cool off in summer and our local pools charge silly prices.


Our council made doors opening directly into a pool area illegal last year (even if they are kept locked,, so you may want to check this with your council.  

QUOTE
Properties that have an exemption allowing door access to an outdoor pool and use a childsafe or child-resistant door, now must fully fence the pool


#15 MrsLexiK

Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (adl @ 26/11/2012, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
FYI - my sister put in a pool fencing quotes have come in around $8000... She even looked at doing it through Bunnings but you have to concrete 1 m or so in so still a very big job! And don't save much either

She had to ring the council 5 times to confirm what is approved fencing and what isn't as many people have fencing but it's not the authorized kind ...inadvertently she report├Ęd neighbours as she wanted similar fencing not realizing that it wasn't an approved type

I looked at one of these pools wasn't worth it so we run through the sprinkler  biggrin.gif


One side of our house makes up part of our "fence"  Thus the windows on the rooms need to meet certain standards.  I just downloaded the council regualtions to make sure that nothing had changed (as we realised that our pool gate was broken.  ohmy.gif We had a yard full of children and have no idea how 3 days before when we went through it was fine and then suddenly it was not.  Needless to say the parts to fix it are on the way.) Anyway it states that the windows need to be fitted with secure fly screen.  That is it.  Nothing about what type of fly screen or anything.  Reading that I am sure many would assume normal fly screen is fine. I range up to check as my step brother had mentioned it needed to be the same as our front screen (which is really tough) now I can confirm that mine is ok, but the lady I spoke to was very vague about what type of flyscreen was needed.  I would think the regulations should have actually listed something a bit more then just "secure fly screen"

#16 glasnost

Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (JustBeige @ 26/11/2012, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually I dont.  We had one. we fenced it though.

I DO think though they need to be sold with restrictions.  The main one being mandatory reporting from the retailer to the local Council.  The purchaser needs to supply 100 points of ID and the retailer needs to tell the relevant council or be fined.  

By doing this, the council then can proactively follow up on fencing of these larger pools.

I think banning them punishes the sensible people.


Great idea!

#17 Ant2131

Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:11 PM

I agree they should be banned unless they bring in a system where people have shown proof they have the fencing.  It is crazy that we wanted to purchase a spa and were told it had to be fenced (which I agree with before you all flame me) but it came with a key lockable lid - and it still needed a fence as well.  And yet any dodo can buy a blow up pool and bobs your uncle for unsupervised toddler swimming.  Sorry I just dont get it.

#18 ~Sorceress~

Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:45 PM

QUOTE (Coffeegirl @ 26/11/2012, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Our council made doors opening directly into a pool area illegal last year (even if they are kept locked,, so you may want to check this with your council.


A friend who built last year has a door opening into the pool area (horribly horribly unsafe sad.gif ) so I'm pretty sure it's still legal in Canberra...


#19 JustBeige

Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (MrsLexiK @ 26/11/2012, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One side of our house makes up part of our "fence"  Thus the windows on the rooms need to meet certain standards.  I just downloaded the council regualtions to make sure that nothing had changed (as we realised that our pool gate was broken.  ohmy.gif We had a yard full of children and have no idea how 3 days before when we went through it was fine and then suddenly it was not.  Needless to say the parts to fix it are on the way.) Anyway it states that the windows need to be fitted with secure fly screen.  That is it.  Nothing about what type of fly screen or anything.  Reading that I am sure many would assume normal fly screen is fine. I range up to check as my step brother had mentioned it needed to be the same as our front screen (which is really tough) now I can confirm that mine is ok, but the lady I spoke to was very vague about what type of flyscreen was needed.  I would think the regulations should have actually listed something a bit more then just "secure fly screen"

We had to do that too.  Our windows had to have security fly screens.  We spoke to the pool and fencing inspectors and they advised us what that meant was that we had to drill security mesh over the opening part / fly screen part of the window.     I hated the idea (a bit paranoid about fires) but of course we complied with it.    Those screens can not be removed without a drill, so that is the security bit.

#20 FeralLIfeHacker

Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (my serenity @ 26/11/2012, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's ashame that local pools aren't cheaper to use as for a large family it's not a cost they can afford every few days. In Canberra their are few options to cool off in summer and our local pools charge silly prices.


Just agreeing with that.  It's not something you we can do after school on a hot day on a regular basis, it turns out it's more like a few times a summer and we go early and stay as long as possible to make it worth it.  If it were cheaper we could go more often just for a quick swim and cool down.  Not in Canberra but same in Adelaide.

Edited by Mummyone1, 26 November 2012 - 05:02 PM.


#21 littlelucyloo

Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:04 PM

Call the local council. My awesome brother bought my daughters one of these pools two years ago. Because we have no fencing it is still sitting in it's box under our house. I was shocked at the amount of people who told me it's hot just put it up and don't worry about it!

#22 Zahhy

Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:05 PM

QUOTE (hannahbug @ 26/11/2012, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These damn pools should be banned from sale!  Who agrees?

Me.
SIL bought us one for Xmas last year. We rent, what the hell are we going to do with a damn pool?! No way I'm paying to put in a fence in a property we don't own, and there's no space in our yard anyway. Therefore, the box is still in the shed unopened.

eta: It will probably still be in the shed unopened in 10 years time, unless we get rid of it before then.

Edited by Tonberry, 26 November 2012 - 05:06 PM.


#23 Soontobegran

Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:14 PM

QUOTE (It'sallgood @ 26/11/2012, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you have made the regulations adn  your feelings about it clear...now you should mind your own business  tongue.gif
Who made you the pool inspector general?

Tamm


TBH Tamm I think we all should be pool inspector generals.
I consider it our civic duty to speak up and be concerned...very concerned about unfenced pools and when they not only threaten the lives of the housholders children but the neighbourhood children then I advocate being as vocal as possible.

#24 protart roflcoptor

Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE (It'sallgood @ 26/11/2012, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you have made the regulations adn  your feelings about it clear...now you should mind your own business  tongue.gif
Who made you the pool inspector general?

Tamm



Are you f'ing serious?

How insulting and totally disrespectful to anyone who has been affected by a backyard drowning.

#25 protart roflcoptor

Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:27 PM

Well you have learnt nothing.






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