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#1 tothebeach

Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:26 AM

When we named my son, we decided to use the 'easier' spelling of his name.  In retrospect, I would have prefered the more traditional spelling of his name as the alternative is more common as the female variant of the name.   It simply means transposing an 'a' and 'e'.  We'd like to change his name before he goes to school and has to learn to spell it.

DH is happy with this, but we are worried that this will cause issues in the future as he will need to show change of name certificates.

Has anyone had an experience in this?   Do you know whether this constitutes a formal change of name?

ETA: We are  in NSW

Edited by tothebeach, 26 November 2012 - 02:11 AM.


#2 bakesgirls

Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:38 AM

My mother initially spelled my name 'incorrectly' on my birth certificate. It was corrected, but still to this day, it constitutes a formal change of name.

I wish it was just left as it was. It made no difference to how my name is pronounced, it's just more hassle for me now. I say just leave it how it is.

ETA- my birth certificate was from WA, the name change was done from NSW.

Edited by bakesgirls, 26 November 2012 - 01:53 AM.


#3 ironbutterfly

Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:44 AM

In WA BD&M issue a new birth cert with a reference to name change on it, the original name is placed at the bottom with the date it was changed. I've never been asked for the name change document either. However in saying this my daughter was born in WA and her registration of name change was also in WA.

ETA my daughters name change was adding her Chinese name to her name and I keep her name change doc with her birth cert but have never needed it.

Edited by ironbutterfly, 26 November 2012 - 01:46 AM.


#4 All-New

Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:09 AM

I am in WA and they didn't make reference to my name change on my new birth certificate??  (done in 2010) When I changed my name the form asked if I wanted a birth certificate, thinking that I was going to get one with the name change on it I ordered one only for it to arrive and not be any different to my original.

I just keep my name change document with my birth certificate no big deal really.

#5 emlis22

Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:17 AM

My mother changed my spelling at about the same age. I've never had it legally changed; so my passport, drivers lisence etc are in the name that's on my birth certificate. The 'new' spelling is my professional name, the name on my Uni degree, and even my bank accounts.

I was in prep at the time and my Mum just told my teachers - it was all totally fine.



#6 Sif

Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:33 AM

I changed my name and then got my birth certificate reissued - birth certificate was from NSW, name change in Victoria... New birth certificate has name change certified at the bottom, so I only ever need to produce one document and it is all on that one document.

HTH

ETA: Birth certificate is in my new name with old names (old maiden and married names) listed at the bottom to show I was also those people... I also had three different degrees in three different names, LOL, and had them all changed to one name - I find everyone is very helpful in this area...

Edited by Sif, 26 November 2012 - 08:38 AM.


#7 IsolaBella

Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:37 AM

Our NSW name change was a reissued birth certificate which noted the previous name at the bottom.

We just added an 'I' to the end of a name.

Eta although that is my legal name I just go by the non I name in everyday life.

Edited by lsolaBella, 26 November 2012 - 08:38 AM.


#8 liveworkplay

Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:45 AM

I  can't really see the point if you are just changing the spelling. Good lesson though, for those who want "different" spellings of common names.

#9 tothebeach

Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:53 AM

QUOTE
I can't really see the point if you are just changing the spelling. Good lesson though, for those who want "different" spellings of common names.

The spelling we chose is a legitimate spelling of the name - not different at all.  There are 3 acceptable versions of the name - none of which are common.  In the last couple of years, we have noticed that though it is a male name, it is being used by females with the spelling that we have.  So, we want to change it to the spelling more closely associated with a boy.   I feel that in an online world with email as a primary means of communication, that I don't want people to see him as a girl.

Edited by tothebeach, 26 November 2012 - 10:54 AM.


#10 pinkblue

Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:59 AM

What's his name?

#11 tothebeach

Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE
What's his name?

Fairly uncommon in Australia so I don't want to disclose it.  However, more common in America as a girl's name (with his spelling) and Ireland (as a boy's name), with the alternative spelling.

#12 aprilrain

Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:13 AM

Lucky you're not in Qld. On my son's new birth certificate it has his original name at the top and a *, and at the bottom in 'notes' that his name has been changed to xxxxx xxxxx.

It is a pain, as everytime Centrelink do anything with Uni and Youth Allowance they ask for his 'new birth certificate' not realising they just aren't reading it properly. biggrin.gif

#13 Starrydawn

Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:27 AM

I personally couldn't be bothered, there is that many variations with names these days you can't assume boy or girl, you might change it and still have issues.

My brother because he didn't realise spelt his sons name Jessie instead of  the boy version Jesse.

#14 anotherid

Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

My guess is that his name is Peyton and they are wanting to change it to Payton.    cool.gif

But Payton is Scottish not Irish, so perhaps not. Fits the other clues though.

Next guess?

#15 alxase

Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:48 AM

Just a guess Morgan / Morgen ?
Sounds like there are different regulations in different states so best to ring births, deaths and marriages and find out what it entails where you live.

#16 klr70

Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE (tothebeach @ 26/11/2012, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
more common in America as a girl's name (with his spelling) and Ireland (as a boy's name), with the alternative spelling.

I don't think I'd bother changing the spelling because it's used more for girls in the US at the moment. Your son is 4, by the time he's 14, it could have swung the other way, or all spellings could be considered "unisex", or some *kre8tiv* version becomes the most popular spelling... & it could all change again by the time he's 24/34/64...

As for the email thing, there are quite a few names (or shortened versions of names) where the spelling doesn't denote whether the name is male/female, for example: Jade, Chris, Sam, Pat, Bev, Jess are the ones I can think of off the top of my head - I'm sure there are more. If you saw any of these in an email address, they're just as likely to be for a male as a female.

It was a valid name & spelling at the time you chose it. Why second guess yourself? As a PP pointed out, you could change it & still have issues.

#17 No girls here

Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE (anotherid @ 26/11/2012, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My guess is that his name is Peyton and they are wanting to change it to Payton.    cool.gif


That was what I thought too, in which case I wouldn't worry about the spelling.  It's not like Peter/Peta where one is definitely accepted as being the male spelling and the other the female spelling.

#18 ~Mintie~

Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:11 PM

Even though it's just one letter you still need to go through the same change of name process that someone would if they were doing a full on change. You say your child is 4? Are they going to school next year? If so I would get a move on with it as the process takes about 6 weeks.
ETA: If you choose to have the name listed on the birth cert, which most people do under your circumstances, then the new name will appear in the top section of his cert, with an endorsement at the bottom stating he was formally known as so he won't need a change of name cert too, just the birth cert.

#19 BabyBumbleBee

Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:41 PM

I read this thread earlier and assumed Eden/Edan was the name but I'm not sure why.

#20 =R2=

Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:53 PM

Kieran/Kieren
Regan/Reagan
Riley?
Kasey/Casey

LOL this is fun!  biggrin.gif



#21 4kidlets

Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:49 AM

I would leave it be - for all the reasons klr70 mentioned.

#22 Freddie'sMum

Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:09 AM

Hi OP

I am not going to try and guess what your son's name is.

I will say - at 4 years old - he probably recognises his own name - maybe even tries to write it / spell it ??  For that reason, I wouldn't change it.  It belongs to him now - maybe if he wants to change it when he's an adult he can.





#23 la di dah

Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

Americans like boyish names on girls. If one of the spellings is popular for girls now there will continue to be crossover of the others.

We also often use the boy's spelling directly - Ashley is far more popular than Ashlee or Ashleigh, for example.

It will make you absolutely insane to try to keep ahead of the spellings. You can't change it every 5 years, after all.

As long as its a "real" spelling I'd leave it alone.

#24 Gudrun

Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:37 PM

I agree with LDD. You can't be too clever with names. You could drive yourself silly.




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