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#1 raone

Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:19 PM

This may be a ramble as I have alot of thoughts at the moment sorry.

So my only child DS has just turned three months and had what I think was a growth spurt in the middle of last week. He was still sleeping through the night but would then feed every hour during the day! So he has seemed to get over that the last couple of days but a new problem has emerged. His feeds in the first half of the day are fine as my boobs seem really full after a full night without feeding. But as the day progresses he seems to get more and more cranky at feeds. Don't get me wrong he isn't a crier. Just constantly pulling off the breast like he isn't getting any. I often check to make sure there is something in there and there is so it's like he isn't happy with how quick it's coming. He is not otherwise fussy.
So any thoughts? Am I running out of supply? Let down to slow? Or still in the growth spurt?

Any tips to try would also be greatly appreciated. ( I have been considering pumping a Bottles worth before I go to bed so he gets what he wants the following evening.)

TIA

#2 lucky 2

Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:49 PM

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Am I running out of supply?

I would seriouslly doubt that OP, with all the feeding he has been doing he would be increasing supply.
If he is thriving then it is not supply but the feeding behaviour can be related to a few things.
The link below may be of assistance to you, it contains a lot of information about young babies and things that can annoy them and lead to fussy feeding.
I had this with dd and would keep offering sides, she would often take up to 8 sides to get a full feed.
Perhaps he will feed if you cuddle him and walk around swaying, if he relaxes does he feed better?
Babies do increase in distractibility from 2 months onwards and peaking at around 4 months.
http://kellymom.com/bf/concerns/child/fussy-while-nursing/
All the best.

Edited by lucky 2, 26 November 2012 - 08:23 AM.


#3 raone

Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:58 PM

Thanks Lucky 2hats exactly what I have had to do with him the last couple of days. I think he must be getting frustrated because it just doesnt seem to be coming as quick as it used to. Will have a go at the sites suggestions and see how that goes tomorrow. hands.gif



#4 lucky 2

Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:24 AM

Good luck and keep us posted! original.gif

#5 Tesseract

Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:42 AM

If he is getting frustrated at the flow speed then doing what lucky 2 said, and switching sides when he gets cranky, will continue to up your supply.

I had this with DD a lot, starting around that age as well. Basically she is just a live wire. She is impatient and very distractible at the breast because she doesn't want to miss anything that's going on. Sometimes it's the price you pay for an inquisitive child! I just kept feeding her as breast I could, switching sides did help. Also feeding in a different environment also helped (backyard, cafe etc), or a quiet dark room. Also catching her when she was just waking up from a nap was good, so she's wake up with a boob in her face and hop on and start sucking before she knew what was going on.

We went through good and bad patches, but ultimately if she was getting feed I was happy, and once I let go of the image of a serene, peaceful, quiet feed I felt a lot better!


#6 raone

Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:03 AM

Do you think the amount they eat at this age increases significantly? Because I feel like my breast are alot more empty since this begun. alot like when he cluster feeds but all day now.

#7 raone

Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:05 AM

By the way Tesseract thank you I will definetly take all those suggestions on board. biggrin.gif

#8 raone

Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:08 PM

update!

Today has not been good. Really struggling to tell when he has had enough as the pulling off was how i used to tell. He still only cries though when I try to put him to bed, so thats a bonus!

#9 Nastyflea

Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:50 PM

have you tried ringing the ABA or seeing a lactation consultant?
He doesn't have reflux does he?

#10 raone

Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:37 PM

I have my mothers group tomorrow so I can chat to MCHN then. I dont think he has any issues wih reflux or wind as he is otherwise happy. I pumped tonight just so I could have a break. Could only get 60mls out bottle fed him that then put him on the both breasts for awhile burped him and put in bassinette beside me and he drifted off to sleep after awhile with no complaints. Not really sure what to do if this is going to continue forever.

#11 Sassenach2

Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:04 AM

I have been talking to the mums on the ABA Helpline and so many of them are wondering what is happening when they give their baby a bottle of EBM and then wonder why he is not liking to take the breast, so be very careful of this happening. The sucking from the bottle is different to the sucking from the breast and they really have to work at the breast. The suckling the baby does on the breast activates more milk to be made and it is a little harder to get than a bottle, so they think - Oh I will have that one that just comes so easily and they refuse the breast or they come off and on, because they want the flow. Bottles can cause a lot of problems and I know there are some babies who will take both, but you have to watch that your baby will go back to the breast. Frequent breastfeeding and switching from side to side will usually get over these problems and giving bottles will not help in the long term.

#12 raone

Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:10 AM

Thanks winterdanceparty. He usually doesn't get a bottle as I am too lazy to pump lol. I will start pumping and freezing instead and only use if struggling. On the up side I am thinking he may have been increasing my supply as its been easier today.

Although he did wake at 3am for a feed which he hasn't done for ages. Oh the joys of the ever changing baby!

#13 Sassenach2

Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:19 AM

Don't be too concerned with him sleeping through the night yet, as he still has a little tummy which needs to be filled and breastmilk is just so digestible and right for his gut, that he needs to still feed frequently. For your milk supply, don't let him sleep more than 3-4 hours overnight yet and the more milk he takes from you, the better your supply will be. You are doing the right thing to ditch the bottles and if you need to give him some EBM, than a little open cup will do the job just as well and he won't get nipple confusion.

#14 lucky 2

Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:22 AM

Yay about you feeling your milk production has increased.
Yesterday you said that your breasts were soft and I suspect that is what got you thinking (in part) that your breast were not making enough milk.
What I want to reassure you about is that the emptier your breasts are, the faster you milk is produced.
So in normal bfing situations (ie like yours when bfing is going well) it is not a bad thing to have soft breasts at times during the 24 hour period and it is helpful to supply overall.
That's why bfing a lot and switch feeding works because you are trying to get baby to take as much milk as possible and as often as possible as this is what stimulates the breasts to make more milk.
All the best.

#15 raone

Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:25 AM

Thanks guys this has been really helpful. bbighug.gif




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