Jump to content

What are you meant to do if....


  • Please log in to reply
26 replies to this topic

#1 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:08 PM

....you're on a plane with a baby on your lap and it starts going to sh*t and you have to get in the brace position, what are you meant to do with the baby?

I've heard depending on impact sometimes your knees can hit your chest (although it's still supposed to be the safest position) so I'm assuming it's not safe to have the baby in your lap in the brace position.mind you if the  plane is going to crash, there's probably not much that can be done anyway.

Anyone know? Or anyone wondering anything random?

#2 Elemenopee

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:12 PM

Anyone else read that as 'it starts doing a sh*t'?
roll2.gif

#3 Tea~for~two

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:13 PM

QUOTE (Elemenopee @ 23/11/2012, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone else read that as 'it starts doing a sh*t'?
roll2.gif


Me! laughing2.gif

#4 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:15 PM

QUOTE (Elemenopee @ 23/11/2012, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone else read that as 'it starts doing a sh*t'?
roll2.gif

biggrin.gif Well I'd know what to do then in that situation as I'm used to being shat on.

#5 heffalumpsnwoozles

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:16 PM

With the leg room as it is on most planes, I'm not sure it's physically possible for your knees to get anywhere near your chest. ohmy.gif

#6 HIH.GD.Isolabella

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:16 PM

From the PP reading, held onto bubs and try not to notice the smell and pray that it dors not leak out. I remember one flight... Starting our descent, seatbelts lights on... Bubs gets the concentration face. 40 mins of hell is what happened.... As we had to wait on the tarmack for a gate to open too.

Everyone around us could not get off the flight quick enough.


As for the other..... It has never crossed my mind.



#7 adl

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:17 PM

Me too... But DH works for an airline, just asked him as he has done all the training and said no idea besides baby, within your arms and use the back of seat????

But now I am curious I shall ask on next flight !! cool.gif

#8 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE (adl @ 23/11/2012, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Me too... But DH works for an airline, just asked him as he has done all the training and said no idea besides baby, within your arms and use the back of seat????

But now I am curious I shall ask on next flight !! cool.gif


Thank you! I must know, it's really bugging me even though I'm unlikely to go on a plane anytime soon.

#9 liveworkplay

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:24 PM

I remember reading that you are meant to place them on the ground oomg.gif I remember thinking that there is I way I would be placing an infant in.the ground in the event of a crash.

Although one would think before it got do the crash position you would be belted in and therefore the baby would be belted to you anyway.

#10 pickledbrain

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:24 PM

You lean your head against the seat in front and the baby is then placed on your tummy, legs around the back.  Or you just lean as far forward as possible, again with the child against your tummy, legs around the back.


Edited by pickledbrain, 23 November 2012 - 07:27 PM.


#11 adl

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:26 PM

I couldn't wait so asked google .....

From Wikipedia ....

The brace position as set out to airlines in the UK for passengers in forward-facing seats is based on extensive analytical work arising from Kegworth. It is subtly different from that in the United States and some other countries. Passengers should place their feet and knees together with their feet firmly on the floor (either flat or on the balls of their feet) and tucked behind the knees to prevent shins and legs being broken against the base of the seat in front. They should bend as far forward as possible, resting their head against the seat in front if it is within reach and place their hands on the back of their head, with the hands one on top of another (rather than interlocked). Their elbows should then be brought in. This prevents both flailing of the arms in the crash sequence and protects the head from flying debris. The head should be as far below the top of the seats as possible to prevent injury from any collapsing overhead compartments.
If carrying an infant on a lap, it is generally recommended that above positions should be adopted as best as possible, cradling the child with one arm and using this to also protect the child's head. In the UK, lap children are instructed to wear an infant safety belt which is a separate seat belt with a loop that connects to the parent's belt; however, in the United States such belts are not permitted by FAA regulations. The FAA believes that such baby belts significantly increases the risk of injury to the child.[2][3] In the early era of commercial aviation, the recommended brace position for children was on the floor against a bulkhead; this has since been amended due to the position's lack of protection. The safest position for an infant is in an aviation certified child safety seat.
[edit]

Livework - it also said that placing kids on the floor has been revoked as too dangerous...it was meant for bulkhead seats but isn't used now

Edited by adl, 23 November 2012 - 07:29 PM.


#12 Marchioness Flea

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

overhead locker?



that was a joke BTW.

#13 Rumply

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:30 PM

I was JUST about to look up flights to Vanuatu.... not any more!!!

#14 Therese

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:31 PM

QUOTE (Jenflea @ 23/11/2012, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
overhead locker?



that was a joke BTW.


laughing2.gif

#15 TinMan

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:32 PM

I've googled it seems to be baby tummy to your tummy and legs around your trunk-then brace as best you can on the seat in front.

I might add I can only contemplate this because I am not going on a plane anytime soon- when I am, I go into denial. DS2 tried telling me about a particularly enthralling air crash investigations waiting in Kansai Airport once and I nearly couldn't get on the plane  biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Rumply @ 23/11/2012, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was JUST about to look up flights to Vanuatu.... not any more!!!


Exactly!

#16 adl

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:37 PM

You do realize  it's a safer than driving in a car??? Just don't go on dodgy airlines in less regulated countries...

#17 Soontobegran

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:43 PM

I believe it is recommended they go on the floor between your feet Sunnycat.
You thinking of flying east? original.gif


ETA....Ignore the above as I have just read the updated recommendations. It USED to be on the floor wink.gif

Edited by soontobegran, 23 November 2012 - 07:46 PM.


#18 Domestic Goddess

Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:46 PM

Hmmmm when I flew to Europe, we went on 3 different planes and on none of them I was explained what to do with DS in case of him doing a sh*t. I mean if things are going to sh*t.

In the US those seatbelts might not be allowed, but I can guarantee you that every airline I've flown with in my life (a fair few different ones) have had the belt to belt for children under 2.

They suck big time though. Ie: On the way to Europe last year, we had an incredible amount of turbulence and DS (didn't fit in the provided bassinette as he weighed 15kg at 14 months) was lying down and sleeping on the the seat next to me.
I had to keep dragging him onto my lap and buckle him every 5 minutes when the seatbelt light went on.
DS did not notice the turbulence (I suspect the rocking and bumping was actually comforting to him) and was NOT a happy camper sad.gif

#19 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:05 PM

Thank you ADL and Pickledbrain original.gif

I will now be able to sleep easy tonight. original.gif

#20 girltribe4

Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:12 PM

My parents would make beds on the floor of the airplane for us children to sleep on when we flew Aus to Uk back in the 80's happy.gif Much more comfy than trying to curl up in the chairs .

#21 HIH.GD.Isolabella

Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:13 PM

DG from many years of travel..... Keep child strapped in and attached to you. When kids have their own seat and manage to fall asleep across two seats, do up their seatbelts on the outside of the rug. Means thy during turbulence they won't wake up your kids.



#22 unicycle

Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (lsolaBella @ 23/11/2012, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DG from many years of travel..... Keep child strapped in and attached to you. When kids have their own seat and manage to fall asleep across two seats, do up their seatbelts on the outside of the rug. Means thy during turbulence they won't wake up your kids.

absolutely,   this has worked for us. can also recommend emirates, as they moved my son to an empty row after seatbelt sign went off on an overnight flight. bless.

#23 seepi

Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:30 PM

I once saw on Oprah that you are meant to wrap the baby up in a blanket (like rolled up in there), and then put then on your lap, and sit on either end of the long rolled up blanket. I guess that is for tiny babies.

#24 niggles

Posted 24 November 2012 - 12:05 AM

QUOTE (seepi @ 23/11/2012, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I once saw on Oprah that you are meant to wrap the baby up in a blanket (like rolled up in there), and then put then on your lap, and sit on either end of the long rolled up blanket. I guess that is for tiny babies.


That sounds like a method for smothering a baby.

#25 oliboli

Posted 24 November 2012 - 12:23 AM

Lean forward as far as possible, one arm on the seat in front, with your head resting on your arm, the other arm cradling your infant




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Ada Nicodemou: 'I can never be completely happy again'

Home and Away actress Ada Nicodemou has opened up about the loss of her stillborn baby.

10 things to consider when you're thinking about trying for a baby

Before you start tracking your menstrual cycle and reading up on the best positions to get pregnant, there are a few other things you may want to consider.

Baby Gammy's dad tries to claim charity money

The biological father of baby Gammy has reportedly tried to access charity money raised for the little boy's medical costs.

How special surgery and IVF can create a post-vasectomy baby

Cricket legend Glenn McGrath and his second wife Sara are expecting their first child together, thanks to IVF and a delicate surgical sperm retrieval process that helped the couple to conceive.

Belle Gibson's mother 'disgusted and embarrassed'

The mother of disgraced wellness blogger Belle Gibson has accused her daughter of lying about her childhood in an attempt to garner public sympathy.

Life On Mars

It's men who need 'retraining', not women

We are all responsible for our own behaviour. Telling victims to harden up is wrong.

Doctor's mobile phone 'left inside c-section mum'

A new mum claims a doctor left his mobile phone inside her after delivering her baby via caesarean section.

I'm a mum and I'm following my dreams

I want my kids to know that no matter what happens in life, you can still be who it is that you've always wanted to be.

Those first daycare days

I had this innate 'mum' moment the other day.

'If one person had listened, my life would have been so different'

Katherine's father will die in prison for the horrifying sexual abuse of his daughter. Yet she is the one with the true life sentence.

Couple to celebrate terminally ill baby's birthday in unique way

Baby Jai Bishop has lived at Starship Hospital for the past seven months, with his parents flying back and forth from Hokitika, 1100km away, to be by his side.

This new plan undermines breastfeeding and baby health at everyone's expense

Mothers, babies, the health system and the wider society are going to pay the price of this new budget.

Trying to understand why your baby is upset

Working out what?s underlying your baby's fussiness can be a case of trial and error. Here are a few common causes and how you can remedy each one.

When those you love judge your parenting

In today's society, never has it been harder to parent without judgment. But what about when judgment is coming from closer to home?

Don't play the victim blame game with family violence

It's not a woman's job to teach violent men how to behave.

11 truths about having two under two

When I told my mothers? group that my husband and I had started trying for our second baby they told me I was crazy. Now I can see why.

'How do you say goodbye to someone you've only just started to get to know?'

New mum Sarah Sutton was faced with a shattering scenario no person should have to endure.

It's a ... boy! Couple welcomes son number 13

"It's a boy!" That's the phrase Kateri Schwandt has heard in labour delivery ward for the 13th time in her life.

Six reasons to go for a walk

Can't find time to get to the gym? It could be just as beneficial to put your baby in the stroller and go for a walk.

Seven questions you should be asking about your health cover

If the last time you assessed your health cover was five years ago, there?s a chance it may no longer suit your needs. To ensure it?s still right for your family, click here for seven questions to ask.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Where are the childcare places?

It?s all very well to encourage women to work if they choose to, but how can the measures lead to increased workforce participation when women are once again left holding the baby?

The pain of not having babies and not knowing why

After seven years of wishing, hoping, crying, punching pillows and shouting "why me?!", the end result is more than I ever thought possible.

Getting your family finances in order

Whether you're after a new car for a growing family, a bigger house, or are just fixing up your finances, here are the basics on borrowing.

Mum shares graphic selfie to warn against tanning

A mum has shared a graphic photo of her skin cancer treatment as a warning to others.

Does parenthood make us happier?

We can certainly gain higher levels of happiness when we become parents, but the trick is to not get overwhelmed by the pressures of raising our kids.

No, having a dog is not like having a human child

It's obvious these people dote on their pets, but they're barking up the wrong tree.

Toddler styling

Seven things my toddler taught me about my home

My standards at home were never that high but having a two-year-old has taught me to be cool with chaos.

Australia's top baby names of 2014

The numbers have been crunched and it's official: Australian parents are having a bit of an 'O' moment.

How to set up the perfect nursery for your baby

You'll soon be meeting your baby, but you've got one big task to get done first: setting up a comfy, calming nursery you'll both be able to enjoy.

Childcare rebate: tougher rules for stay-at-home mums

A new form of activity testing will be introduced to ensure the highest subsidies go to parents who contribute the most to the workforce.

The women who desperately need more support in pregnancy

For women suffering from chronic morning sickness or hyperemesis gravidarum, pregnancy can be the roller coaster from hell.

When labour doesn't happen and you're induced

I never actually went into labour - so by 42 weeks I was booked in for induction.

Mum's grief for triplets inspires change

The death of Sophie Smith's triplet baby boys has motivated the half-marathon mother and her team to raise $1.25 million for charity.

The best advice for treating head lice

Just like a horror movie ... THEY'RE BAAAAAACK. So what works in treating and avoiding head lice and nits?

Overdue and over it

A watched womb never labours ... or at least mine didn't.

Parenting an early walker

Watching your child take their first wobbly steps is one of the best parenting highs you'll ever experience. But with that high comes a new reality.

Baby-led weaning worked for us

My baby wasn't interested in food - until we tried something new. Now she's eating it all, and it often comes from my plate.

'Paralysed bride' becomes a mum

Rachelle Friedman Chapman was preparing to marry the man of her dreams when tragedy struck four years ago.

 

Top baby names

Baby Names

The numbers are in and we can now bring you the 2014 top baby name list for Australia.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.