Jump to content

Sleep advice/ reassurance
Daytime cat naps and night time false starts

8 replies to this topic

#1 Loz07

Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:54 PM


I'm a new poster but have been a bit of a lurker for a while ph34r.gif
Anyway, have a 14w DD and am after some advice/ reassurance/tips etc for a couple of sleep problems we have been having.

She is a serial 45 minute catnapper (on rare occasions I can help her 'transition' through a nap or she may do it herself, even rarer I can resettle but I usually don't try too hard at this). I wrap her for naps (unless she is in the car/sling etc) and will rock/pat or feed (if cranky/over tired) to sleep for all naps. I'm not toooo worried about this coz from what I have read, it seems catnaps are pretty normal at this stage??? What experiences do ppl have with babies eventually taking longer naps (when, tips to help?)

The bigger issue tho is getting her to settle to sleep at night (although thankfully once she falls asleep she normally sleeps all night, has woken once a night a couple of times in the last week but usually goes bak to sleep after a feed which I'm happy to do at this age).
After her bath (6pm), she is wrapped and fed to sleep. She will fall asleep, but when put in her bassinet will have 'false starts' where she wakes (10-20 mins later) and cries again. Sometimes she can be patted / rocked / held back to sleep, but normally its back to the boob. Sometimes she has some big burps when she wakes crying (I burp as she starts getting drowsy and try to keep her upright for a bit after she has finished).
This can happen a couple of times and it can take 2 hours or so post bath before she is out for the night.  I don't mind feeding her to sleep (mostly because it seems to be working in that she sleeps all night.. rolleyes.gif .) but worry that as she gets older if she starts waking more during the night she is going to need to feed to settle back to sleep, and that as she is older she is still going to need help getting to sleep... Plus, coz she baths at 6, DH and I usually eat after she is asleep, which means on nights like tonight we end up having whatever can be easily scavengened from the freezer/fridge coz I can't be bothered cooking...

Anybody experienced the false starts? Tips/advice? Do they grow out of it? Also, with feeding to sleep - any experiences of people whose baby did this, and was still a good night sleeper? Or should I try to get her out of this habit now?

thanks original.gif

#2 Guest_divineM_*

Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:33 AM

Yes, ours was like that. woke up multiple times during the evening. this was also when I was feeding to sleep for the night. once we stopped feeding to sleep at around 4 months this improved. turns out she would come out of her sleep cycle and think "where am I? last I remember I was on the boob". I realised this was actually frightening her as she always woke up with a terrible scream.

#3 Feral-as-Meggs

Posted 23 November 2012 - 01:38 PM

I think both things are really normal.

My cat-napper started having longer naps at about 5 months.  Nothing I did before made any difference (even sleep school).   I wish I hadn't wasted so much time trying to resettle him.  One day he suddenly started doing it on his own.

I think it's a good idea to aim for one "proper" nap a day in the cot to give them the opportunity to sleep longer, but other than that I wouldn't worry.

Re the "false starts" my son did this for the first 3 months, then it gradually stopped on its own.

But I think you are on the right track to try to do some rocking or patting to sleep as opposed to feeding to sleep every time.  My DS had a strong feed to sleep association and was waking hourly overnight for months because of it.    It didn't resolve until I night-weaned him.  

#4 Natttmumm

Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:37 PM

Sounds normal to me - although 2 hours of it is annoying.

Cat naps - Both mine did this after about 6 weeks old. For DD1 I managed to break the habit with a fair bit of settling and crying (which I would never do again). DD2 I tried to resettle for a few minutes if it didnt work I gave up. I had DD1 around so I couldnt resettle with her talking away anyway. DD2 self settled and fell asleep beautifully on her own so it was nothing to do with feeding to sleep etc.

Both mine did do the false starts too - the only thing I remember was that it stopped around 7-8 months approx. It didnt take 2 hours though it was more like they would sleep 40 mins and wake up but still be really tired (i always putit down to overtiredness)and I would have to do an extra top up feed. After that DD2 would sleep all night - bliss and worth the mucking around. DD1 would do the 40 mins too and then feed back to sleep and then be ok until around midnight then wake up 10 times before the morning.

I think you are doing well - maybe you could try putting her down a bit later and cook while she is up

#5 Loz07

Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:20 PM


Thanks for the replies. Good to know it is all pretty normal... even if annoying rolleyes.gif

I'll hang in there for the cat naps and hope they improve.

I took her off before she was completely asleep tonight, but she still woke... first time I settled with cuddles only but she wasn't fully asleep when she went back down so even with patting became cranky again... second time needed more boob before she fell asleep. But at least it was only an hour of this post bath tonight...

divineM - how long did it take to wean off feeding to sleep at that age? Think I will persist with trying this - I don't want to go cold turkey or CIO tho

#6 littlesticky

Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:39 PM

No advice here but letting you know you're not alone. My 6 month old is a catnapper and has many false starts over 1-2 hours. Still better than her 6 hour false start settling when she was 2 months old! We pat to sleep after bedtime routine from 5pm.

#7 Loz07

Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:01 PM

Sigh. Was hoping it would be something she would grow out of by 6 months...

On a positive note, she is settling much better for day naps, with the exception of some days where she (or I!) Just won't settle without the boob.

She is still false starting in the evening, but generally isn't as cranky about it... Mind you, I am probably offering bob quicker target than letting her get worked up... Aiming to start breaking feed to sleep in the evening over the next few weeks. Fingers crossed!

#8 ~Supernova~

Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:41 AM

DS (9mths) has always been a catnapper, I was beginning to think he would just always be that way. About a month ago he started finally sleeping longer (2 naps of approx 2 hours), which is when he started eating a lot more solid food (could be just coincidence). He still occasionally has a catnap, but not very often any more. Night time sleeps? We won't go there...he's teething and driving me mental ALL.NIGHT.LONG *sigh*

#9 axiomae

Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:46 PM

My LO has just stopped catnapping, hooray! Like the PP, it has coincided with starting solids, although that could be coincidence. It's wonderful! She is almost six months.

Reply to this topic


1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users


Join the Real Mums Test Drive Team

Five new mums will join the Essential Baby Test Drive Team and discover great new baby toys from Fisher-Price & write a review to be published on Essential Baby.

Two children fall from second storey window

Two young boys have been rushed to hospital after falling out a second-storey window of a home in Eastwood.

Victorian Labor to introduce same-sex adoption laws

Thousands of same-sex couples with children will have the right to be jointly recognised as parents by Victorian law.

Sneak peek: Maxomorra bee dress, t-shirt and romper for babies

Cutest snap find on the planet - bee rompers, tees and dresses for babies.

Toddler found two days after going missing

A two-year-old girl who disappeared on Friday night from her great-grandparents' home in rural Ohio was found alive Sunday evening in a nearby field.

Dad builds the ultimate bed for his toddler son

The transition from cot to big kid bed might be a little easier if every toddler had a bed like this one.

Is Woolworths now cheaper than Coles?

Woolworths appears to have taken the upper hand in its price battle with Coles after investing millions of dollars lowering the cost of groceries, according to new figures.

Aussie babies and parents stranded in Nepal after surrogacy ban

Parents say Australian babies are being "kept captive" and cannot come home after a ban on commercial surrogacy in Nepal.

Wannabe dads left behind in IVF debate

If virgin women can become mothers through IVF, maybe we're ready for another miracle - genuine equality for men in the parenting debate.

The health and fitness lessons I've learned

What I once assumed about health and fitness is wrong.

Our angel baby story: Hunter James

I have two children: one living, the next an angel baby.

Newlyweds send bill to no-show guests

Planning a wedding can be stressful – and, as most newlyweds can attest, it can be very costly, too.

Your choice or theirs: the tug-of-war over baby names

They had just decided on a name they both agreed on, but then the grandparents threw in an offer of $10,000 in exchange for choosing something else.

Dad-to-be's tearful reaction to pregnancy news goes viral

After 17 years of trying, this man had given up hope of having a family.

Claire Danes: acting out postnatal depression was difficult

Actress Claire Danes found it difficult pretending to have postnatal depression in Homeland, as she had just become a new mother herself.

The moment a 92-year-old meets her great grandaughter

It's a heart-warming photo this family will treasure forever.

How to prepare for breastfeeding when you're still pregnant

While every woman's breastfeeding journey is different, many hurdles are shared. Knowing what to expect will enable you to make informed decisions if - or when - you meet challenges along the way.

Sneak peek: new Love Mae bamboo dinnerware designs

We do love ourselves some brand new designs in tried and true products. The renowned bamboo dinnerware from Love Mae has just had several more members join the family, in addition to a brand new website.

Mum who killed paedophile gets reduced sentence

A mother-of-five who killed a paedophile has had her jail sentence reduced by a judge who described her case as a "truly exceptional" one.

Sneak peek: Geleeo self-cooling pram & high chair liners

We just spotted Geleeo, a brand new self-cooling pram liner you can buy in time for summer.

Toddler's silent debate with mum about naptime

He might not utter a single word - but this toddler is having a great debate with his mother about nap time.


What's hot on EB

Stella McCartney honours mum with lacy bra

Fashion designer Stella McCartney has honoured her late mum, Linda McCartney, by designing a special bra for post-mastectomy patients.

Don't panic: A granddad midwife's guide for dads-to-be

Mark Harris has helped deliver 500 babies. And he's now telling fathers what to expect.

How to be a calm parent when you're feeling anything but

Being a calm parent takes a lot of work, sometimes more than is obvious to those around us.

The joy and isolation of being a stay-at-home dad

It's cool, kind of like a second childhood. I love him to bits and think, on average, I'm an okay dad. But I also want to talk about the other stuff.

How baby Teddy's short life is helping save thousands of lives

He may have only lived for 100 minutes, but that didn't stop baby Teddy from saving the lives of others.

A heartbreaking trail of missed chances in death of baby forgotten in car

A haunting reminder to stay mindful about babies in cars, especially as we approach summer.

What to do if your baby has tongue-tie

Tongue-tie can cause feeding problems. However once it is diagnosed, the condition can be easily treated.

How to move house without losing your mind

Some people move frequently, while others like to stay put. But everyone finds it stressful.

'She had nowhere to go': how new mum's life began to unravel

The birth of her first child should have been happiest of times for Campsie mother Phuong Cao, but friends say it marked the beginning of when her life began to unravel. 

Women giving birth to a son keep some of his Y chromosomes

It was an experiment doomed to failure - they were looking for male cells in female bodies. And their search was stunningly successful.

Photos: How babies fit in the womb

A gorgeous photo series shows babies in the first hours after their birth - as they were positioned in the womb.

Baby tries to persuade stubborn bulldog to walk, fails

We don't know what he's saying, but this baby has a very clear message for his bulldog pal: let's walk - NOW.

The best toddler gift ever? Nine gender-neutral play kitchen picks

Without a doubt, one of the best gifts for a toddler turning two or three is a play kitchen.

9 easy steps to improve your baby photography

With a few simple tips you can take your images from random happy snaps to lovely clean images that create beautiful lasting memories.



Can't decide?

Check out the Essential Baby Names section for some inspiration

Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.