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#1 la di dah

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:10 AM

I have been looking this up online. Both for myself and for someone else who apparently was interested but not enough to do her own research/post her own TMI. I have no shame so I was appointed.  biggrin.gif

I'm not talking about anything involving tubing cervixes or anything especially high-tech or scary to contemplate at home because even shameless me does not want to have to ruin a paramedic's day with that happy crappy.

Just what is crudely known as "the turkey baster method" (sorry) essentially just loading it into a needle-less syringe and putting it up where it needs to be and squeezing it in like icing.

Who's done it? Anyone? unsure.gif

I'm not sure it's right for me because I have a gyno appointment I'm waiting on to find out why BDing always hurts like wildfire, but it could be right for my actually-not-hypothetical-at-all friend who is "vajayjay-a-ok" and just lacks recreational penis and also any interest at all in doing it the obsolescent way. wink.gif She can use tampons (I can't) so I imagine she should have less issues?

Basically if nothing else it might increase for me the number of times a month sperm is in the correct vicinity and that has to be helpful, right? I'm imagining the general effects and issues are almost identical to BDing, right?

I know it doesn't have any physical/practical *advantages* over just doing it like they do on the Discovery Channel, but does it have any major downsides beyond being sort of clunky?

#2 pundelina

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:18 AM

BDing hurt me for years, I had vulvar vestibulitis and went on a massive course (6 months) of fluconozole to knock out the systemic candida I had.  Worked! Also, doc said to use plain old vegetable oil as a lubricant - also worked.  No more pain for me - I hope you get yours sorted because it's awful to be in BDing pain.

A small syringe will work fine as long as you aren't putting anything through the cervix. Just get it super fresh and squirt away.  (Chemicals in seminal fluid are bad for the uterus, only spe.rm can go in there, which is why labs 'wash' se.men before an IUI.

Good luck!

#3 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:20 AM

Look,

I haven't done it but have done lots of research into getting pregnant as I also found it very, very difficult to get pregnant biggrin.gif

I have done the clinic version.

The sperm needs the cervical-mucus to be fertile to carry it to the egg otherwise the sperm dies. The reason sex is still the easiest way to get pregnant is because even a short sharp thrust will get some blood flowing in the area and if the woman is fertile, allow the CM to gather around the sperm and show it the way home.

Apart from that, no reason at all it wouldn't work - I don't think sperm lives that long though, maybe half an hour? We had to get DH tested eventually and he did it at home but we had to go straight there and it was a 5 minute car ride.

So your not hypothetical at all friend may like to masturbate while whoever is filling the turkey baster is masturbating in a different room (otherwise just shag - right!) and then put it in.

You realise that you will have to report back if this ends in a pregnancy laughing2.gif



#4 Feral Becky

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:26 AM

I think you are overthinking things at the moment, LDD.

Wait and see what the gyno says. original.gif

Edited by LindsayMK, 22 November 2012 - 11:27 AM.


#5 InsertAwesomeHere

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:26 AM

QUOTE (Dinosaurus @ 22/11/2012, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apart from that, no reason at all it wouldn't work - I don't think sperm lives that long though, maybe half an hour? We had to get DH tested eventually and he did it at home but we had to go straight there and it was a 5 minute car ride.

I thought sperm lived for 24-48 hours

#6 FaithHopeLove

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:31 AM

I havent done it to myself but my first cycle was done this way by a nurse. i was lying with my hips tilted and she used a speculum for the insertion to get it in the vicinity of the cervix. then I lay with hips still tilted for 30 mins afterwards.

The nurse told me i had "lots of lovely mucous" which was important as per the above post - it was ov day for me. That took the prize as strangest compliment I have ever received!

#7 la di dah

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE (LindsayMK @ 22/11/2012, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you are overthinking things at the moment, LDD.

Wait and see what the gyno says. original.gif


Stop being sensible in my thread Lindsaaaaay.  rant.gif  wink.gif

I just want to know what's out there as plausible options.

Also I literally did get assigned to do research for my girlfriend because she hates to and I "do so much anyway, weirdo"  wub.gif  and that is true. I think possibly she just wanted me to distract me from worrying though. She would have to go through a sperm bank or something anyway.

#8 Oriental lily

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:39 AM

I think sperm can live up to three days ' inside' due to body temperature.
Outside it has a limited life unless medically frozen.

I know same sex couples use this method often.
With fairly good results.

Perhaps use pre seed lube and your DH and you d everything BUT ejaculation so that all your cervix fluids are working like they should.

No harm at all in trying!

#9 TopsyTurvy

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

Another option might be to load up a menstrual cup and carefully insert that.  original.gif

#10 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:43 AM

QUOTE (InsertAwesomeHere @ 22/11/2012, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought sperm lived for 24-48 hours


I think it can live 24-72 hours inside but outside can only live for about 30 minutes that's why when a man gives a sample it has to go to the clinic within half an hour or something.

#11 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:48 AM

Yeah, sperm can last (allegedly) up to 5 days inside the body but outside in fresh air (as it were) I thought it had a short shelf life (maybe an hour or so?)

No idea though - just vaguely recalling conversations had with my doctor so long ago it was almost last century (by crikey i'm getting old!)

#12 Feral-as-Meggs

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:51 AM

You are starting some interesting threads LDD.

Re your friend, if she's going through a reputable sperm bank it's such a process and so bloody exy you are better off doing it through a clinic so as to maximise the chances .  At the very least they can monitor your cycle and make sure it's the best day, but most people in that situation do IUI or IVF, especially if there is an age/time factor.   Even with a known donor I think it's better to do it via a clinic so your get all the legalities right and don't have any potential custody or medical issues.  

But for the DIY with your own partner I imagine it would be really simple.   Just sterilise your equipment, get in the mood, and go for it.   Going off my IUI you want to do it a couple of times (say 2 days apart) just before you ovulate.

#13 Soontobegrinch

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:56 AM

LDD, I have known a few women using the 'turkey baster' method of insemination but this has beem because they were same sex couples. The success rate seems to be pretty good although I do not know the stats.
I am just wondering whether this would be an appropriate method if you have some type of vaginismus or complicating gynae problem though as it does require quite deep insertion to ensure the semen floods the cervix.
Good luck with your gynaecologist appointment, hopefully you'll get to the bottom of the problem and this won't need to be an option.






#14 Schmig

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:57 AM

It definately works. I know people who have done home insemination for varying reasons and got successfully pregnant as I was very curious and asked WAY too many questions about it.

#15 Lalliana

Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:58 AM

Sperm can live up to 2 hours outside of the body but clinics usually want it sooner so they have testing time etc. For what it's worth this method of AI does work and is very simple to do. I know a 7 year old boy that was conceived this way, it worked on the 4th month original.gif

#16 Feral Becky

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE (meggs1 @ 22/11/2012, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are starting some interesting threads LDD.


I was thinking the same thing.


Is everything OK, OP?

#17 la di dah

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE (soontobegran @ 22/11/2012, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LDD, I have known a few women using the 'turkey baster' method of insemination but this has beem because they were same sex couples. The success rate seems to be pretty good although I do not know the stats.
I am just wondering whether this would be an appropriate method if you have some type of vaginismus or complicating gynae problem though as it does require quite deep insertion to ensure the semen floods the cervix.
Good luck with your gynaecologist appointment, hopefully you'll get to the bottom of the problem and this won't need to be an option.


Thanks stbg, I hope so too. I'm not sure I could even DO this, really, but I think I'd be willing to try. Not a big cost outlay for us, personally, just, what, a syringe and some lube.

QUOTE (meggs1 @ 22/11/2012, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are starting some interesting threads LDD.

Re your friend, if she's going through a reputable sperm bank it's such a process and so bloody exy you are better off doing it through a clinic so as to maximise the chances .  At the very least they can monitor your cycle and make sure it's the best day, but most people in that situation do IUI or IVF, especially if there is an age/time factor.   Even with a known donor I think it's better to do it via a clinic so your get all the legalities right and don't have any potential custody or medical issues.  

But for the DIY with your own partner I imagine it would be really simple.   Just sterilise your equipment, get in the mood, and go for it.   Going off my IUI you want to do it a couple of times (say 2 days apart) just before you ovulate.

Yeah, I've been thinking about things a lot. If it gets too annoying I can go away but it's better if I can ask from behind a computer screen, less embarrassing.

QUOTE (Oriental lily @ 22/11/2012, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No harm at all in trying!


That's kind of what I thought. Worst comes to worst... I'm here?  mellow.gif

#18 la di dah

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:22 PM

QUOTE (LindsayMK @ 22/11/2012, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was thinking the same thing.


Is everything OK, OP?

I don't know. I think so. I'm alive and with a man I love very much, who loves me. And I faced my fear of going to the doctor about my gyno issues at all - the wait now is just appointment slots, not me avoiding - and my DH is actually very proud of me which is a bit sad but also very sweet.

I am trying to think positively and learn about stuff. I want to be pregnant as soon as possible. I might be being very annoying. I'm sorry about that. I guess I am trying to cover my bases?

#19 Feral-as-Meggs

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:25 PM

No you aren't annoying.

Maybe cross post this to donor AC and SS parents - they will know the ins and outs. wink.gif

Good luck with the gynaecologist appointment.

#20 la di dah

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:28 PM

Is it rude to put it in the SS board? It's semi-relevant to my friend (she's single though) but it's really not for me and my DH and while I am a bit of a cow in general I'm not trying to be an extra-big jerk to anybody.

#21 Handsfull

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:32 PM

A long time ago I mean 11 years ago, I had a friend who did do the turkey baster and also stood on her head after doing it.......

not sure whether it worked or not but and she didn't say whether she did it more than once....but she now has two sons!!

LOL!

#22 la di dah

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:37 PM

At one point in my childhood I believed sperm must last up to five years... after all my parents would have had sex only once and our age gap was 5 years oldest to youngest. wink.gif

I've later come to the sad truth.

My parents have had sex three times.

#23 Feral-as-Meggs

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:45 PM

QUOTE (la di dah @ 22/11/2012, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it rude to put it in the SS board? It's semi-relevant to my friend (she's single though) but it's really not for me and my DH and while I am a bit of a cow in general I'm not trying to be an extra-big jerk to anybody.


I don't think so, if it was for yourself and you explained your issue.  I got a lot of info from that area when I was investigating how to have a baby as a single woman.   Not sure about asking questions for a friend.  Lots of people do that in AC and no one minds.  Your friend needs to learn to ask EB her own questions though - how will she cope as a mother.

#24 Oriental lily

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:48 PM

Lol
My sister was best friends with an Italian girl.
Her gorgeous naive strict catholic mother found her nearly empty pill packet. Her mum was horrified when looking at all the empty holes in the packet saying with horror 'you mean you have done it that many times'

Lah di dah your pp reminded me of that.

#25 noi'mnot

Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:54 PM

I think that trying to cover your bases is a sensible idea. Best case scenario your gyno will sort everything out and you won't have to think about this any more, worst case you'll be using some of this information. I know it can be hard, waiting for expert opinions, and I similarly do all sorts of random research to satisfy my need to feel like I'm doing something about it all.

Anyway, I have several friends who have had success with turkey basting. Different ages and situations, some have taken several months and some only 1-2.

I think it's worth asking in other boards, just be polite and considerate, as always. original.gif


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