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#1 ~*Twilight~Zone*~

Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:52 AM

Morning

I'm taking my 12 yr old DS to the Drs this morning because he has complained a couple of times that it feels like his heart is pounding in his chest.  He doesn't think it's going any faster just harder if you know what I mean.  I can feel it beating when I put my hand on his chest but he is thin and I can feel his heartbeat any time I do this so to me it doesn't feel any different.

The first time was on Sunday. I rang Health Direct when it happened but as it didn't last long and his pulse seemed fine they said just keep an eye on him.

When it happens he is otherwise okay, a bit apprehensive, but otherwise okay.  No rapid breathing or shortness of breath and no pain. He is always worried that something will happen to him the next time it happens.

Anyone experience anything like this before?

#2 Oriental lily

Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:58 AM

Pounding heart andirregular heartbeat are signs of my anxiety. I got a ECG though just to be sure that nothing sinister was going on. Nothing showed up to warrant further investigation.

They can however put a 24 hr monitor on to make sure.

Hope it's nothing to worry about.

#3 *Spikey*

Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:59 AM

I was forced to give up caffeine because of this symptom recurring.  ph34r.gif

Check out what he's been eating and drinking, it might have a bearing on it.  Definitely see the GP though, don't mess with the heart and circulation.

#4 ~*Twilight~Zone*~

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:05 AM

I think he does have anxiety issues but would you wake up like this?

This morning he called out to me as soon as he woke up.

#5 zingy

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:10 AM

I can't drink caffeine either because it gives me this every time.

The other thing that gives it to me is eating anything with 621 or 635 or 637 (MSG or flavour enhancer).
And eating too much white crusty bread.

It can also happen if I am anxious about something or have a panic attack.

Different types of medication can bring it on too.

Good luck and hope it all checks out OK.

#6 minimae

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:12 AM

QUOTE (~*Twilight~Zone*~ @ 21/11/2012, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think he does have anxiety issues but would you wake up like this?

This morning he called out to me as soon as he woke up.


I've had anxiety problems in the past (fairly under control now) and I used to wake up with a pounding heart quite often.

Poor little guy, it can be so frightening. I can totally relate to your sons fear of something happening 'next time'. It's like you feel like you've lost control of your body, I lost all trust in my own body and this just fuelled the problem. Everytime I felt the tiniest twinge, or heard the 'thump' of my heart it would trigger the pounding again.  Hope the GP can help. What really helped for me was a healthy lifestyle, learning to understand anxiety and mindfulness techniques.

#7 zingy

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:20 AM

When I went through my anxiety issues, I was very aware of my own heart beat. I was most aware of it when I was lying down trying to rest. When you become aware of it, you can induce panic within yourself and this makes it even worse.

I had mine properly checked with ECG etc too, just to put my mind at ease. I know what to expect now and how to breathe through a panic attack.

I remember waking up during the night when I was a kid, feeling my heart pounding, thinking I was going somewhere, it is very scary.

I had acupuncture to help me but basically my anxiety came about because I went through a very traumatic event and at the time I had to be brave and strong so I pushed it all down and then 2 years later it came back in the form of severe anxiety and panic attacks.

#8 Mamabug

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:22 AM

I have an irregular hearbeat and there are times when it really 'thumps'. It is nothing serious, but you are doing the right thing by going to the GP to get it checked out.

If it is the same for your son, just knowing what it is can be very reassuring.

Oh, and I notice mine most when I am in bed - I think it is because there are no other distractions. Perhaps this is why your son noticed it when he first woke up?

#9 Oriental lily

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:24 AM

I agree with minimae.

My most anxious times are first thing in the morning.

I have a ridiculous feeling of dread and doom with every little big or small concern piling on top of me.
Pounding head and pounding heart.


Horrible.

I get it in the middle of the night.

During the day I can put relaxation and different techniques in place to manage it.

But the ghastly thing sneaks up on me in the morning.....

Edited by Oriental lily, 21 November 2012 - 10:25 AM.


#10 erypmaV

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:26 AM

QUOTE (zingy @ 21/11/2012, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The other thing that gives it to me is eating anything with 621 or 635 or 637 (MSG or flavour enhancer).

I have this too, although it generally causes an elevated heart rate as well.
Apparently ibuprofen (nurofen etc) can cause similar side effects to MSG, so that might be something to watch as a potential trigger.

Edited by erypmaV, 21 November 2012 - 10:27 AM.


#11 tle

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:27 AM

My 12 yr old DD has the same thing and it usually accompanies a feeling of worry, panic, concern but she cant explain what it is she is worried about. It happens any time of the day or night and she has even woken up in the middle of the night feeling like that.

I took her to the gp who arranged to have a holster monitor (I think that is what they called it) put on her to record her heart beat for 24hours.  The results were mostly normal but there were a few things my GP wasn't 100% sure about so she sent DD to a specialist. All turned out to be fine and the specialist thinks it is anxiety/stress induced. I suspected that from the outset but DD's (and my) peace of mind I'm glad we have it confirmed by a specialist.  Just knowing that her heart is OK has releived DDs anxiety/stress and it is happening a lot less often now (the specialist appt was only last month).

We were also given some information about a program that is run for children that experience these symptoms which aim to give them coping strategies but so far DD has decided to just see how things go. If they worsen when she goes to high school next year (which Dr said was very possible/likely) we'll enroll her then. I think it was just a 12 week program one day a week.

Anyway, my advice is to get it checked out. Just hearing from a dr that all is OK might be enough to help relieve his symptoms. And, if it is anything else the Dr will find out what and treat it.

I hope you get it sorted for him soon. I know from watching my DD just how frightening it can be for them (and you).

#12 littlesticky

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:35 AM

My sister feels something like that and she recently got diagnosed with ectopic ventricular beats. There's nothing she can do and it's not harmful but it can be made worse by caffeine.

#13 HerringToMarmalade

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:45 AM

Its happened to me and there were times I couldn't sleep because of the feeling, its very odd. I was diagnosed with Graves' Disease, a thyroid disorder. A blood test would pick that up. I didn't go to the doctor for quite awhile with mine, my other symptoms were quite wishy-washy IYKWIM, just a bit tired and sick, like the flu, it was only when the heart things started I actually took notice.

#14 glowlight

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:48 AM

I have the same thing. It rarely happens now but started suddenly 4 years ago. I had 2 ECGs and put on a Holter monitor for 24 hours. It took 3 years for it to improve and it got worse before it got better. Usually triggered by built up stress and not necessarily anything stressful at the time of the attack. See a gp/cardiologist to rule out medical reasons then a child psychologist to help your son learn techniques to manage this hyperawareness if no physical causes are found. Good luck! Hope it resolves soon.

#15 ~*Twilight~Zone*~

Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:57 AM

Thanks - glad to know that in most cases it's food or anxiety.

My head says he is okay as he was only at the GP last Thursday for an unrelated matter and she checked his chest and heart then because he has had a bad cough for quite some weeks now.  I still have that little niggling doubt there though too you know the 'What if I just dismiss it as ABC when it may actually be XYZ.'

Augh - kids are so stressful.


#16 minimae

Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:02 AM

I just wanted to add that you absolutely are doing the right thing by ruling out any underlying issues first before jumping straight on the anxiety bandwagon. I know that once I knew that there was nothing wrong with my heart it helped immensely with my anxiety.

#17 Cuddlesnkisses

Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:04 AM

I don't have any anxiety and I get a pounding in my heart.  

It feels like it's beating really hard, then will skip and carry on like normal.  I've never had it checked, and I'm not concerned about it.  I think that it's just the way my heart corrects it's rhythm.


#18 Guest_~Songbird~_*

Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:00 PM

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Edited by *SnowFlower*, 20 February 2013 - 05:56 PM.


#19 B.L.J

Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:42 PM

I have a thing called "sinus tachycaridia". It's slightly different as it makes my heart beat faster and harder (like you have just ran a really big race even though you havnt).

For me what would make it worse would I would feel it start to happen then start panicking, which of course makes it worse and freaked me out even more!

I didn't drink caffeine and hated energy drinks and it was happening at non stressful times (nothing major going on in my life etc).  They diagnosed it using a holter monitor and getting me to write down what I was doing at that time.  

are you maybe able to get him to make a note of when it happens or tell you do you can? might make it easy to figure out some triggers if its written down in front of you.

I hope you figure out what's going on sad.gif it's a horrible thing to experience.

#20 ~*Twilight~Zone*~

Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:07 PM

Heart beat doesn't increase he said it just feels like it is beating harder.

Dr checked him over, heartbeat normal and in rhythm, no sounds of a murmur. DS has also had a blood test to check his iron levels as Dr said thIs can be a reason.

Not sure how long it will take to get the results bytes the Drs usually ring if a follow up is required.

#21 Studybug

Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:41 PM

My experience: I've had heart palpitations for as long as I can remember.  I remember being quite small, having them and not thinking twice - you don't when you're little.  As a late teenager, I had an accident that required me being monitored via ECG for a few days, and they picked up the palpitations but put it down to the type of accident I'd had.  I didn't tell them I'd experienced it since I was little.
I've mentioned them once or twice since my early adult years to a couple of Drs and honestly they both listened to my heart for a minute, told me all is good, it's just anxiety and left it at that so I stopped mentioning it.  It was only my current Dr who explained that it sounds like a type of arrhythmia - can't remember the name but it's common and not life threatening.  Took into account how long the episodes last for, their frequency, etc.  I'm not worried in any way but glad someone actually listened to my symptoms rather than just passed it off as anxiety without a second thought.  
My palpitations mostly feel like skipping beats which make me cough, sometimes a few really fast beats followed by a few really slow ones, and sometimes the pounding heart sensation where it feels like my heart is just below the skin's surface.  The difficulty in my situation is that I don't experience the palpitations with any sort of patterned regularity or even very often most times so they're really hard to catch via ECG (hence the Dr explaining that she is not concerned that it will be a health problem).

It's great that your son has told you about the palpitations, I never would've thought to as a child.  If it was my DS, I get him thoroughly checked but not panic.

good luck.

p.s. I do actually get anxiety lol, so I know what a panic attack feels like and the assoc pounding heart.  I think the key thing for me was going to a DR who knows my full history and was able to place symptoms in the right context IYKWIM.

#22 crackles

Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:43 PM

sounds like what i have - ventricular ectopic beats - harmless apparently but can be annoying/alarming at times

#23 steppy

Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:53 PM

I get pounding heart if my dreams are anxious ones, so yes, I can wake up with a pounding heart.

#24 Swarley

Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

QUOTE (HerringToMarmalade @ 21/11/2012, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its happened to me and there were times I couldn't sleep because of the feeling, its very odd. I was diagnosed with Graves' Disease, a thyroid disorder. A blood test would pick that up. I didn't go to the doctor for quite awhile with mine, my other symptoms were quite wishy-washy IYKWIM, just a bit tired and sick, like the flu, it was only when the heart things started I actually took notice.

I've been getting exactly this every night for the past few months. It used to go away after a while, but lately it's every night, and sometimes stops me from getting to sleep.
I have anxiety so my Dr said it's just that. But I've suffered anxiety for years and I'm getting this even when I'm completely fine. It's different.

So I'm having blood tests to check my thyroid this week.
Hope I get some answers sad.gif

#25 Bottom

Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:55 PM

I would take him to hospital; sometimes SVT can start occuring at that age: the beginning of adolecence- I know a fair bit about it because my son was born with it. It could be what causes the anxiety rather than the other way around. Never assume something to do with the heart is anxiety-especially with a child.




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