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Paul Douglas Peters - Collar bomb hoax sentencing


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#1 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:06 AM

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fake-collar-bomb...1120-29n9d.html



A very long sentence (comparatively), more than some people get for manslaughter or murder.

ETA: I am not saying that he didn't deserve it. I am saying in comparison to  other lenient sentences it is exceptionally long.

Edited by peach*face, 21 November 2012 - 10:56 AM.


#2 imamumto3

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:09 AM

dh and I thought the same

#3 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:11 AM

It pays to be rich and influential in cases like these. Or at least that's the way it appears.

It makes me sick actually.

#4 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:11 AM

Double post

Edited by peach*face, 21 November 2012 - 06:12 AM.


#5 countrymel

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:19 AM

If it were you or a member of your family who had spent 10 hours thinking they were about to have their head blown off would you be so outraged at the sentencing?

I think not.

As for "it pays to be rich and influential" if the family had NOT been rich then no-one would have broken into their home and strapped a 'bomb' to the daughter's neck and tried to extort money.




#6 hicoco

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:21 AM

He targeted her because the family was rich, even though he claims he had the wrong house. For probably years of horrible memories he has given that girl he deserves the sentence. Just because other sentences are inadequate does not mean he should get off lighter too.

#7 FrogIsAFrogIsAFrog

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

I think it's a very fitting sentence.

I don't compare it to other offences & sentences; the Pulver family deserve justice, irrespective of other cases.

Money aside, it was a life changing, terrifying crime and I hope the family can move forward now the court case is over.

#8 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:28 AM

Its inevitable that it will be compared to other categories of crime.
I agree that the sentence seems fitting, but it's excessive though in the light of other sentences for more serious crimes (rape, murder, etc).

There doesn't seem to be much consistency when it comes to sentencing. I have an extended family member who had a serious sexual assualt against her and the perpetrator had nothing like this type of punishment.

#9 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:39 AM

And I know sentencing cannot be reduced to emotional reactions like mine, but it still upsets me.

#10 FrogIsAFrogIsAFrog

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:40 AM

How can you agree it's fitting, yet excessive, and find it sickening?  I disagree that comparison is inevitable.

No, Sentencing is not consistent, but it doesn't detract from this victim's trauma. In this case, I applaud the sentencing.

#11 Sir Dinosaurus

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:40 AM

What Country Mel said.

She was a young girl with a BOMB strapped to her neck. Seriously people, how can that be *better* than rape or murder? She didn't know it was fake, she wasn't allowed to see her parents and she thought she would die.

Whilst I think the sentence will probably be reduced on appeal, I have no problem with it at the moment.

#12 Ianthe

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:48 AM

QUOTE (Dinosaurus @ 21/11/2012, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was a young girl with a BOMB strapped to her neck. Seriously people, how can that be *better* than rape or murder? She didn't know it was fake, she wasn't allowed to see her parents and she thought she would die.


Because it was fake so in reality she wasn't in physical danger. His intent wasn't to harm her. That seems like a pretty long sentence and I suspect it wouldn't be as long if the media weren't so involved in the case.

#13 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:50 AM

excessive- in comparison to other sentences.
fitting- as standing alone by itself. It seems more just.
sickening- The fact that there is inconsitency.

I didn't say anything about her tauma, I couldn't imagine the trauma of her experience.


#14 HollyOllyOxenfree

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:52 AM

I'm glad he has had such a long sentence handed down. I can't even begin to imagine what that poor girl and her family went through, and are still going through. I watched her speak to the media yesterday after the verdict, and she struck me as so calm and together considering what happened and how much the media has been at her ever since. She obviously has a strong family supporting her, and hopefully this sentence will allow them all to start moving on with their lives

#15 suziej

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:54 AM

QUOTE (Ianthe @ 21/11/2012, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because it was fake so in reality she wasn't in physical danger. His intent wasn't to harm her. That seems like a pretty long sentence and I suspect it wouldn't be as long if the media weren't so involved in the case.


I think it is fitting - I think that we, in general, give far too lenient sentences in this country.

#16 Sweet like a lemon

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:55 AM

That's because terror and extortion are extremely serious crimes. The problem is actually in the lenient sentencing given to molesters, murderers and rapists, not the length of sentence given to this individual.

#17 Ianthe

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:58 AM

QUOTE (suziej @ 21/11/2012, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it is fitting - I think that we, in general, give far too lenient sentences in this country.


That I agree with.

#18 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE
That's because terror and extortion are extremely serious crimes. The problem is actually in the lenient sentencing given to molesters, murderers and rapists, not the length of sentence given to this individual.


What Forsaken truth said.

#19 Waratah

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

Totally fitting if that was my poor child being terrorised in such a horrible way I would want him locked up till he died.  That poor defenseless girl didn't know it was a fake bomb all she knew was it was a bomb and it could kill her.  The trauma she may suffer from that experience could haunt her forever.   Well done justice served.  Wish others who commit crime would get more tougher sentences.

#20 FrogIsAFrogIsAFrog

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

QUOTE
Because it was fake so in reality she wasn't in physical danger. His intent wasn't to harm her


Psychological fear is is harm. Of course he knew he was harming the girl and her family by strapping a fake bomb to her neck.

It was this malicious intent which resulted in the sentence. Sheesh, now I'm getting emotional!

Like ForsakenTruth has just pointed out; Lobby government for tougher sentences, for the Parole Boards to uphold head sentences in violent offenders, rather than feel sickened on a public forum. I find it kind of disrespectful to the Pulver family. They never asked for this and they deserve to have the offender locked away for the longest time legislation permits.

#21 Ianthe

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:05 AM

QUOTE (FrogIsAFrogIsAFrog @ 21/11/2012, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Psychological fear is is harm. Of course he knew he was harming the girl and her family by strapping a fake bomb to her neck.


I didn't dispute the psychological harm.

#22 little bird

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:07 AM

look at the photos of them all. i reckon he's her father. conspiracy theory!

#23 fancie

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:09 AM

QUOTE (Ianthe @ 21/11/2012, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because it was fake so in reality she wasn't in physical danger. His intent wasn't to harm her.



Oh, well that must make what he did okay then?    rolleyes.gif


Madeline Culver didn't know it was a fake.

Her parents didn't know it was a fake.

Hell! Even the police didn't know it was a fake.

And the bomb disposal experts were certainly fooled for quite a while too!

#24 squeekums

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:50 AM

He got what he deserved.
Granted im shocked hes been given longer than some murders, rapists and pedofiles.
But one can dream that the start of harsher penalties for these people will also come of this.

#25 rosiebird

Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:14 AM

Ianthe, according to your "no physical harm" theory, if a school was held hostage for 10hrs by men with guns that turned out to be fake, they shouldn't be given a long jail term because no-one was physically harmed? Or if a woman was inveigled into going home with a man and was terrorised with threats of rape and torture for 10hrs before being released, he shouldn't get a long jail term either, right? I think the jail term is absolutely justified.




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