Jump to content

Paul Douglas Peters - Collar bomb hoax sentencing


  • Please log in to reply
39 replies to this topic

#1 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:06 AM

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fake-collar-bomb...1120-29n9d.html



A very long sentence (comparatively), more than some people get for manslaughter or murder.

ETA: I am not saying that he didn't deserve it. I am saying in comparison to  other lenient sentences it is exceptionally long.

Edited by peach*face, 21 November 2012 - 10:56 AM.


#2 imamumto3

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:09 AM

dh and I thought the same

#3 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:11 AM

It pays to be rich and influential in cases like these. Or at least that's the way it appears.

It makes me sick actually.

#4 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:11 AM

Double post

Edited by peach*face, 21 November 2012 - 06:12 AM.


#5 HRH Countrymel

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:19 AM

If it were you or a member of your family who had spent 10 hours thinking they were about to have their head blown off would you be so outraged at the sentencing?

I think not.

As for "it pays to be rich and influential" if the family had NOT been rich then no-one would have broken into their home and strapped a 'bomb' to the daughter's neck and tried to extort money.




#6 hicoco

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:21 AM

He targeted her because the family was rich, even though he claims he had the wrong house. For probably years of horrible memories he has given that girl he deserves the sentence. Just because other sentences are inadequate does not mean he should get off lighter too.

#7 Fr0g

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

I think it's a very fitting sentence.

I don't compare it to other offences & sentences; the Pulver family deserve justice, irrespective of other cases.

Money aside, it was a life changing, terrifying crime and I hope the family can move forward now the court case is over.

#8 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:28 AM

Its inevitable that it will be compared to other categories of crime.
I agree that the sentence seems fitting, but it's excessive though in the light of other sentences for more serious crimes (rape, murder, etc).

There doesn't seem to be much consistency when it comes to sentencing. I have an extended family member who had a serious sexual assualt against her and the perpetrator had nothing like this type of punishment.

#9 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:39 AM

And I know sentencing cannot be reduced to emotional reactions like mine, but it still upsets me.

#10 Fr0g

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:40 AM

How can you agree it's fitting, yet excessive, and find it sickening?  I disagree that comparison is inevitable.

No, Sentencing is not consistent, but it doesn't detract from this victim's trauma. In this case, I applaud the sentencing.

#11 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:40 AM

What Country Mel said.

She was a young girl with a BOMB strapped to her neck. Seriously people, how can that be *better* than rape or murder? She didn't know it was fake, she wasn't allowed to see her parents and she thought she would die.

Whilst I think the sentence will probably be reduced on appeal, I have no problem with it at the moment.

#12 Ianthe

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:48 AM

QUOTE (Dinosaurus @ 21/11/2012, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was a young girl with a BOMB strapped to her neck. Seriously people, how can that be *better* than rape or murder? She didn't know it was fake, she wasn't allowed to see her parents and she thought she would die.


Because it was fake so in reality she wasn't in physical danger. His intent wasn't to harm her. That seems like a pretty long sentence and I suspect it wouldn't be as long if the media weren't so involved in the case.

#13 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:50 AM

excessive- in comparison to other sentences.
fitting- as standing alone by itself. It seems more just.
sickening- The fact that there is inconsitency.

I didn't say anything about her tauma, I couldn't imagine the trauma of her experience.


#14 MintyBiscuit

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:52 AM

I'm glad he has had such a long sentence handed down. I can't even begin to imagine what that poor girl and her family went through, and are still going through. I watched her speak to the media yesterday after the verdict, and she struck me as so calm and together considering what happened and how much the media has been at her ever since. She obviously has a strong family supporting her, and hopefully this sentence will allow them all to start moving on with their lives

#15 Sancti-mummy

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:54 AM

QUOTE (Ianthe @ 21/11/2012, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because it was fake so in reality she wasn't in physical danger. His intent wasn't to harm her. That seems like a pretty long sentence and I suspect it wouldn't be as long if the media weren't so involved in the case.


I think it is fitting - I think that we, in general, give far too lenient sentences in this country.

#16 Sweet like a lemon

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:55 AM

That's because terror and extortion are extremely serious crimes. The problem is actually in the lenient sentencing given to molesters, murderers and rapists, not the length of sentence given to this individual.

#17 Ianthe

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:58 AM

QUOTE (suziej @ 21/11/2012, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it is fitting - I think that we, in general, give far too lenient sentences in this country.


That I agree with.

#18 peach*face

Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE
That's because terror and extortion are extremely serious crimes. The problem is actually in the lenient sentencing given to molesters, murderers and rapists, not the length of sentence given to this individual.


What Forsaken truth said.

#19 Waratah

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

Totally fitting if that was my poor child being terrorised in such a horrible way I would want him locked up till he died.  That poor defenseless girl didn't know it was a fake bomb all she knew was it was a bomb and it could kill her.  The trauma she may suffer from that experience could haunt her forever.   Well done justice served.  Wish others who commit crime would get more tougher sentences.

#20 Fr0g

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

QUOTE
Because it was fake so in reality she wasn't in physical danger. His intent wasn't to harm her


Psychological fear is is harm. Of course he knew he was harming the girl and her family by strapping a fake bomb to her neck.

It was this malicious intent which resulted in the sentence. Sheesh, now I'm getting emotional!

Like ForsakenTruth has just pointed out; Lobby government for tougher sentences, for the Parole Boards to uphold head sentences in violent offenders, rather than feel sickened on a public forum. I find it kind of disrespectful to the Pulver family. They never asked for this and they deserve to have the offender locked away for the longest time legislation permits.

#21 Ianthe

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:05 AM

QUOTE (FrogIsAFrogIsAFrog @ 21/11/2012, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Psychological fear is is harm. Of course he knew he was harming the girl and her family by strapping a fake bomb to her neck.


I didn't dispute the psychological harm.

#22 little bird

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:07 AM

look at the photos of them all. i reckon he's her father. conspiracy theory!

#23 fancie shmancie

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:09 AM

QUOTE (Ianthe @ 21/11/2012, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because it was fake so in reality she wasn't in physical danger. His intent wasn't to harm her.



Oh, well that must make what he did okay then?    rolleyes.gif


Madeline Culver didn't know it was a fake.

Her parents didn't know it was a fake.

Hell! Even the police didn't know it was a fake.

And the bomb disposal experts were certainly fooled for quite a while too!

#24 Squeekums Da Feral

Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:50 AM

He got what he deserved.
Granted im shocked hes been given longer than some murders, rapists and pedofiles.
But one can dream that the start of harsher penalties for these people will also come of this.

#25 Rosiebird

Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:14 AM

Ianthe, according to your "no physical harm" theory, if a school was held hostage for 10hrs by men with guns that turned out to be fake, they shouldn't be given a long jail term because no-one was physically harmed? Or if a woman was inveigled into going home with a man and was terrorised with threats of rape and torture for 10hrs before being released, he shouldn't get a long jail term either, right? I think the jail term is absolutely justified.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

11 things that will happen when you're breastfeeding

After having three children and various degrees of success feeding them all, there's one thing I can tell you: virtually nothing will go as planned.

Surgery for baby born with a tail

A baby born with a tail has had it removed after doctors feared the birth defect might cause long term damage to his lower body.

When 'skin to skin' becomes a family affair

An adorable photo of a little boy and his dad enjoying skin to skin contact with newborn twins is melting hearts everywhere.

35 hilariously weird 'top tips'

Who would have thunk it? We never knew there were so many uses for feminine hygiene products. 

Pregnancy skin woes: acne, dry skin, itchy skin

Here are some of the most common skin complaints in pregnancy and how to tackle them, face on.

Watch this fun dance class for babywearing dads

Is there anything sexier than a babywearing dad?

Parents, this is how to cut grapes to avoid choking

One mum has learnt a harrowing lesson about the best way to cut grapes to make it safe for toddlers and little kids to eat.

When your kids have totally different temperaments

Sometimes it has felt like whiplash parenting. She perches watchfully while I vacuum; he tries to climb on and go for a ride.

How do our stress levels influence our baby?

Since having my second baby a number of people have commented on how placid, content and settled he is and, similarly, many have commented on how this is a reflection of how I am with him.

Separation anxiety isn't just for kids

Despite its prevalence, most doctors tend to be reluctant to diagnose adult patients with separation anxiety.

A charm bracelet, a boy, and my beliefs questioned

I was staring at the face of my son, realising that my once steadfast decision to be open minded was quickly unravelling at the seams.

Why I'm so grateful for Hayden Panettiere's PND honesty

There are baby steps and giant leaps forward. But there are steps backwards, too. And, oh, how they can hurt your heart.

The heartbreaking story of little Moko

The mother of 3-year-old Moko Rangitoheriri said she should have picked up on the signs. {Warning: distressing content}

Kate Beckinsale and teen daughter recreate birth photo

Kate Beckinsale has recreated her daughter Lily's birth photo, 17 years after she was born.

The adult-size stroller you'll want to test drive

It's one of the biggest baby related purchases they will make, so it makes sense that parents-to-be get a chance to road test a stroller.

Pregnancy announcement shows the reality of IVF

It's a long way from baby booties or bump shots people have become accustomed to in social media pregnancy announcements.  

Soleil Moon Frye welcomes fourth baby

"Punky Brewster" is a mom again, for the fourth time. Soleil Moon Frye announced the birth of her baby boy, Story, on Instagram Wednesday.

Mum breastfeeds baby found abandoned on the street

A woman has been praised as a "beautiful mother" after breastfeeding a baby which had been abandoned at the side of a street. 

A birth with a difference: the 'natural caesarean'

We've shared stories of gentle caesareans before, but a new video shows a new option called a 'natural caesarean'.

Baby name inspiration by music genre

If you're all about the music, then you'll need a musical name for that baby. We've got all the lists for you by music genre.

Giving effective instructions to toddlers

One of the most common errors made by parents is in how they give instructions to their children.

 
Advertisement
 

Top 5 Articles

Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

The babies who are one in 70 million

Bethani Webb was excited to find out she was pregnant, but the first time mum did not realise she was carrying four babies not one.

Cafe offers breastfeeding mums a free cup of tea

A Sydney cafe is offering breastfeeding mums free cups of tea in a bid to show support for the right of women to nurse their babies wherever they choose.

To snip or not to snip? When the decision is not clear cut

Jamie Oliver, who considered a vasectomy, is to be a father again. A fellow dad reflects on his own decision 11 years ago

Doctors stunned by rare twins born almost six weeks apart

To everyone's surprise, Kristen Miller "kept doing better each day", keeping her second baby safe.

Baby book ideas for modern parents

Before my son was born I was given a lovely baby book full of blank pages waiting to be filled with weights and heights and first words.

The adorable smile of a baby seeing his mum clearly for the first time

There is no doubt seeing their child smile for the first time is an unforgettable moment for parents everywhere.

Mum tells how toddler 'nearly hung himself' in cot mishap

When Alison Johnson put her 18-month-old Caleb down for a nap, she had no reason to believe her son was in any danger.

Babies are still switched at birth? Yes, it can happen

All my panic and tears aside, my biggest question looking back is about the kind of security measures used in the maternity ward.

Doctors slammed for taking selfie with newborn

Everyone who visits a mum in hospital in the days following childbirth wants to get a photo with the new baby.

ergoPouch Twosie Sleepsuit for winter breastfeeding

Finally, there's a way to keep warm while breastfeeding through winter.

Health check: How long does sex 'normally' last?

What to do with this information? My advice would be to try not to think about it during the throes of passion.

When breastfeeding sucks: fixing common problems

From niplash to tight boobs, biting to milk supply issues, Pinky McKay looks at common breastfeeding issues and how to solve them.

10 things I've learnt in my first six months with twins

Six months on we're all still alive, and the more we get to know each other the easier the days become.

Mum's loving kiss leaves baby fighting for life

Kirsty Carrington thought nothing of giving her newborn son a kiss, little did she know it would leave the baby fighting for life.

When doing chores is your new 'me time'

After children, 'me time' looks a little different.

Get going: 14 travel strollers for families on the move

A stroller can make or break travelling with a baby or toddler. Here are 15 great single travel stroller options.

10 ways toddlers are terrific

It always pays to remind yourself of how terrific toddlers can be - they're little like this for such a short time

 

Vintage Toys

The toys of your childhood

Take a trip down memory lane with these vinage and retro toys that you may have had in your childhood or your parent's childhood.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.