Jump to content

Building report and major structural damage...
Renegotiate the price for repairs?


  • Please log in to reply
17 replies to this topic

#1 paula1

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:15 PM

I just had a building report done today for a property that i bought subject to building inspection.
It's come back as having major structural damage in one corner, it's been suggested that it will need underpinning.
I will be getting a proper quote very soon but it's been indicated that it would probably be under $10,000 as it's just one corner. Might even be closer to 5-6,000.
Obviously i'm going to try to renegotiate the price according to the quote.
If they won't then i'll walk away.

Has anyone ever done some major work after a building inspection recommendation?
I know many people will automatically just say walk away but i really love the house and area.

WDYT?

#2 Escapin

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

If you've already agreed a price then I'm not sure how you can just 'walk away'. That part of your post aside, we have done about $40k worth of structural work to our place. It's an 1890s terrace and we knew that we'd be up for a fair bit of work.

#3 paula1

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:24 PM

It's subject to building inspection which was done today.
They noticed some major structural damage so that is my "out" if they don't renegotiate the price.
The building inspection was not satisfactory.

#4 LambChop

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:24 PM

Course you can walk away, thats what 'subject to building inspection' means....

The last house I bought we fount guttering and restumping to the tune of $14k, we renegotiated to pay half each with the vendor.

#5 Escapin

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:28 PM

Oh sorry, didn't read your OP properly!! In that case, to tell you what we did - the building report said $50k worth of work so we just offered what they wanted minus $50k. There was quite a bit of squealing from them but they agreed in the end. wink.gif

#6 cinderellainsydney

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:30 PM

It may turn out that the building has other issues down the track. It will be worthwhile to get a few opinions.

Ive known of one contractor who writes a report and underestimates work-scope on purpose to get the job, and during the work, they can call you over and say: you can see X is now a new problem. We didn't pick up on it earlier because of Y. If you don't fix it now, it will become a nightmare, and the cost is $zz,zzz. In some cases, it will be a genuine oversight. In some cases, the new problem is caused by the renovation work itself. Either way, it can end up being only the beginning....

#7 paula1

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:30 PM

Lambchop, I couldn't afford the hosue if she would only pay half of it. It MAY only cost 5-6,000 and if it does i'm going to ask for that much to be reduced.


#8 Fanny McPhail

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:38 PM

The estimate may only come in at $5-6000 but I would add a contingency of at least 10% for "unknowns" especially when dealing with foundations...actually i would always add for contingencies because I work in the building industry and am married to a quantity surveyor

You don't have to tell them the actual cost and you may want to pad it a little so that you have some negiotation room. I'm not saying rip them off but make sure you are covered.

I would also get a couple of builders around to look at it and if you have a mate who is a builder get them to look at it too.

Good luck and I hope you don't have to walk away but i'm glad to see you are prepared to.

#9 bluedragon

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:38 PM

We recently walked away from a house because of a building report. We had an offer accepted and it was subject to a building and pest inspection which found a major structural defect. In our case there were other issues and the total estimated amount to rectify was $40-45k.

When we were deciding what to do our options were explained as:
1. Walk away
2. Renegotiate the price
3. Ask for the issues to be repaired before settlement at the vendors cost.
4. A combination of 2 and 3 if only getting them to repair the major defect for example.

If you renegotiate the price you an leave the settlement price as is and the vendor can reimburse you the difference just after settlement or you can redo the contract to reflect the new price agreed.



#10 paula1

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:01 PM

Bluedragon why did you walk away? Was it the cost?
Were the owners open to lowering the price or fixing the issues?



#11 emnut

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:08 PM

with finances tight enough that you can only afford the house if the price is lowered to make the repairs I would be walking away.  From experience, the type of repairs you are talking of nearly always lead to further repairs being needed - such as replastering leading to repainting, flooring also ending up damaged from the repair etc.  You also don't know what impact the movement from the work will have on the rest of the house.  It will likely end up being a lot more costly than just what has been suggested to rectify the initial issue.

#12 tel2

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

Around 6 years ago DH & I bought a run down house on a decent lot in a half decent suburb for an excellent price. We knew it was run down and was planning to renovate it. We got the builders report back and the repairs that needed to be done to the home were close to 80K !!!! Way and truely past pur budget  sad.gif

My brother is a tradie and he told me you guys bought a lemon of a house  sad.gif He said the best thing for you to do is to live in the house and pay off your mortgage in the next few years (our mortage was really small) then knock the house down and build a new home on the old lot....and that's basically what we did.

Lots of tears and stress initially....but now we couldn't be happier  original.gif

#13 bluedragon

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (paula1 @ 20/11/2012, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bluedragon why did you walk away? Was it the cost?
Were the owners open to lowering the price or fixing the issues?


In the end we decided not to even try negotiation. The most expensive part of the problems was to do with aluminium cladding over weatherboards and there was no way of telling until it was all stripped off how bad the rotting would be. My FIL is a painter and he said he's never seen a house with cladding not have major issues and the thought of the unknown was too much for us.

The agent did try to convince us to ask the vendors to fix the structural defect which was not quite as expensive to fix so I'm assuming they would have negotiated on that.

In the end it was just all too stressful, it wasn't a forever house we were madly in love with (about a 5 year house we were estimating), we weren't in a major rush to find something. Our plan was it was a smallish place that would do while DS was little and a potential second child was little too that we could pay well over the normal repayments to build up as much equity ASAP. We were concerned all the extra money we would need to pay out would offset trying to pay off extra. Not to mention the hassle of having to do major work.

So I gues the short answer is, yes, it was the money.

If it had just been to structural defect then we would have negotiated, it was going to cost around 7k to fix.

#14 The Old Feral

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:25 PM

QUOTE (emnut @ 20/11/2012, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
with finances tight enough that you can only afford the house if the price is lowered to make the repairs I would be walking away.  From experience, the type of repairs you are talking of nearly always lead to further repairs being needed - such as replastering leading to repainting, flooring also ending up damaged from the repair etc.  You also don't know what impact the movement from the work will have on the rest of the house.  It will likely end up being a lot more costly than just what has been suggested to rectify the initial issue.


Yes! Underpinning causes a lot of movement and usually leads to replastering, retiling, repainting, gap filling, rehanging doors....on and on it goes.

If you are not confident doing much of that repair work yourself and the budget is very tight, I'd be suggesting this is not the house for you. Sorry sad.gif

#15 libbylu

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:36 PM

If you buy an older house you can almost expect there will need to be some structural work.  We didn't need a building inspection to see our house would need re-blocking at some point.....the floor is all over the place.  But that's what happens when it's 80+ years old.  We have lived with it but will need to re-do it eventually when we do a bigger reno.


#16 ~*hiptobesquare~*

Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:11 PM

When selling our house a few years ago the Building Inspection showed Major structural damage. Something in the range of $70,000 + for repairs.

Considering we purchased the property 2 years before and nothing of the sort came up when we got a building inspection done. We decided to get a second opinion from a Structural Engineer who came out inspected the property throughly and did a report up for us.


Luckily for us the Structural Engineer could not find any indication what so ever on Major Structural damage. And had a 13 page report to back up his findings.

It was well worth the $1,200 to pay a proper professional to come and inspect the property for us, who did not work for the Real Estate agency.

#17 paula1

Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:30 PM

I just received the formal report.

There are galvanised pipes, dirty gutters, some broken roof tiles, rotting floor in outdoor room (not sure what you'd call it), drainage issues, and the movement issue.

I think I'll keep looking! What a nightmare!

#18 bluedragon

Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:48 PM

Our structural issues were caused by drainage issues. Once the drainage issues were fixed the inspector said there shouldn't be any more issues but couldn't be 100% about it.

Again the worry of the unknown of what decades of damp soil under the house etc. might have done was too much for me.

Just beware of the agent when you withdraw from the contract. The one selling the house we withdrew from turned very nasty and threatening as soon as he worked out he couldn't convince us to negotiate. Just do everything through your solicitor/conveyancer. I had to stop taking his calls after the first two.

EFS

Edited by bluedragon, 20 November 2012 - 10:50 PM.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Tell us what you think

to WIN 1 of 2 $500 Coles/Myer gift cards

Dealing with a toddler's morning tantrums

Your schedule is not important to your two-year-old, and you cannot convince her otherwise. So what can you do?

Child in suitcase 'could have died eight years ago'

A child whose remains were dumped in a suitcase in the South Australian bush is believed to have been a girl aged between two-and-a-half to four.

MP breastfeeds baby during parliamentary session

An Argentinian mum and politician has caused a stir on social media after being filmed breastfeeding her baby.

My baby's first seizure

It was 1am on a cold winter's night when I woke suddenly to the screams of my 12-month-old son. Our lives were about to change forever.

Portable pools 'more dangerous than permanent ones'

Inflatable and portable children's pools may be required to be sold with compulsory fencing to prevent backyard drownings, with some experts even floating the idea of a ban.

Heartbreaking moment mum kisses her one-week-old goodbye

At 11.07am on April 2 this year, Sarah Marriott welcomed baby Sebastian into the world.

The amazing Tee Pee bed and kid-friendly Frankie Bunk bed

These kids' beds definitely fit the brief of providing personality and personal space for little people who are moving up in the world.

The funny things kids say when you're pregnant

Since becoming noticeably pregnant, my son has taken more of an interest in the sibling he'll soon have.

The real problem with having one child

In this age of political correctness, it seems the one subject still subject to discrimination is that of the Only Child.

Six-week-old baby found dead, believed stabbed

A neighbour heard a child screaming before a baby was found dead, believed to have been stabbed, in a house in Newcastle.

The fire hazard in more than 70,000 Australian homes

So far, 206 Samsung washing machines have caught fire and some have exploded. But many remain in people's homes.

How having a baby can bring on OCD

We all know that having a baby can turn your life upside down - and it can also bring a raft of new anxieties and worries.

IVF gender selection being considered for Australian parents

Couples using IVF may be able to choose the gender of their babies and women could be financially compensated for donating their eggs.

The best age to get married (according to the latest study)

Not too young, and not too old. That's reportedly the best age to get married. Not everyone agrees.

Yes, you can get pregnant before your period returns post-baby

After giving birth, the last thing you want to think about is contraception. But you can get pregnant before your period comes back.

Fellow diner rewards mum after toddler's tantrum

Parents of toddlers everywhere know the feeling. After working up the courage to take your child out for lunch or dinner in public you are rewarded with a mid-meal meltdown. 

IKEA begins massive safety campaign after two toddler deaths

Two children were killed when pieces from their Malm furniture line tipped over.

Beaneasy: sweet nursery furniture with a twist

If you're looking to introduce an organic element into your baby's nursery but want to step away from natural timber, we have the perfect alternative.

A dad's guide to hyperemesis

I am in no way qualified to advise women on how to cope with hyperemesis, but I've learnt some lessons that might be worth sharing with other partners.

Woman adopts best friend's four daughters after cancer tragedy

Best friends share everything - and for these two life-long friends, that includes family.

Baby Leo's mum excluded from $500K trust 'for her own protection'

Samuel Forrest didn't want his wife as a trustee of their baby Leo's half million dollar trust for her own "protection", it has emerged.

Confirmed: men gain weight when they become dads

Men who become fathers experience weight gain and an increase in body mass index, a measurement of body fat based on height and weight, according to a new, large-scale study

Carer investigated over washing machine photo posted 'for a laugh'

She said the photo of a boy with Down syndrome in a washing machine was taken just for fun, but no one else was laughing.

Mum's premature labour nightmare after high tea salmonella outbreak

An opulent high tea at a luxury Melbourne hotel has left 44 people with salmonella poisoning - including a pregnant woman, who went into early labour.

The day my son started a fire

Would you know what to do in a fire emergency? How safe is your home and family?

Prince George celebrates second birthday

Prince George's second birthday has been marked by the release of an official picture showing the toddler smiling as he is held by his proud beaming father.

Which beauty treatments are safe in pregnancy?

Is it safe to use fake tan, hair dye and nail varnish during pregnancy?

The five ways I know my 'baby' is no longer a baby

The truth is, I can no longer deny that my walking, babbling, somewhat-independent little miss is no longer a bona fide 'baby'.

Review: Cybex Platinum PRIAM pram

I'm not usually one who believes in love at first sight but that's exactly what happened when I first saw the Cybex PRIAM.

Get your FREE Baby & Toddler Show ticket!

Get your free ticket to the Sydney Essential Baby & Toddler Show for September 25-27 - register online now.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Tell us what you think

to WIN 1 of 2 $500 Coles/Myer gift cards

Why I'm choosing to be a single mother right from the start

I believe that you get out of families what you put into them, and I will give mine my all.

Mother and baby units are a necessity for mental health, not a luxury

I have had two postnatal psychotic episodes. The first when my eldest child was six weeks old, and another after my second child was born.

30 French baby names

French names are always in fashion, but a few have risen in popularity in recent years.

New mum's Spanish maternity nightmare

A British woman who gave birth in Spain has told of her ordeal after spending weeks trying to convince medics the baby girl was hers.

Preparing Rover to be a good dog with baby

Some friends of ours say that it's dangerous to have a dog around a newborn and that we should start looking for a new home for him. Is it?

Company offers to ship working mums' breast milk home

First Apple and Facebook announced they would pay $20,000 towards the cost of their female employees freezing their eggs, now IBM in the US has come up with an innovative new policy aimed at retaining female employees.

Prince William speaks of his pride at wife Kate and 'little joy of heaven' Charlotte

The Duke of Cambridge opened up about family life and his plans for the future in an interview to mark his first day as an air ambulance pilot.

'Glowing' eye saves baby Mason's life

A simple photo taken in front of an evening fire gave new mother Sarah Bowers the power to save her baby's life. 

Parenting and decision overload

Of all the advice people told me before having a baby, no one warned me about the amount of decisions involved.

Proof that toddlers can't be left unsupervised - ever

Parents of toddlers all know the moment when realise your child is being suspiciously quiet. It can only mean one thing - trouble!

Meet Jeremy Ryan, The Voice contestant with seven kids

If you have trouble recalling the ages of Jeremy Ryan's seven children on The Voice, you're not alone. So does he.

Baby's adorable reaction to wearing glasses for the first time

Getting glasses can be a formative moment in a person's life.

Police officer buys supplies for family after mum of six caught shoplifting

When a mum of six was caught shoplifting nappies, clothes and shoes for her kids, the last thing she expected was for a stranger to pay for her haul.

Why pregnant women on antidepressants shouldn’t panic about birth defect claims

The risk of having uncontrolled depression is far greater than the small increased risk of birth defects that may be associated with specific antidepressants.

Arrests made over children's birthday party brawl

Police have raided properties and arrested a number of people over a brawl at a child's birthday party at a play centre in Sydney's west.

Family shares awesome drone baby announcement

Looking for a creative way to share some big news? Look to the skies, like this family did.

Young warrior Owen defies doctors' predictions

Little Owen DiCandilo's name means "young warrior", and it's a description that perfectly fits the inspiring 18-month-old

Advice for dads: when to approach your wife for sex

The exhaustion that comes with caring for young children often means romance between parents becomes a thing of the past.

I might be fat, but I don't need saving

I've been fat for pretty much most of life, besides a few crazy moments of being less-fat, but for the most part I've existed on this earth with a little more meat on my bones than desirable.

The rookie mistakes we make as parents

Since the dawn of civilisation, generation after generation of new parents have had to rely on instinct, trial and error - and sometimes get it wrong.

 

FREE TICKET

See Pinky McKay live in Sydney

Get your free ticket to The Essential Baby & Toddler Show and save $20 - register online now!

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.