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#1 mitty82

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:01 PM

So after two bouts of pain in my abdomen, the last being by far the worst. Was in pain from 9pm until about 4am in severe pain, vomiting feeling yucko. I have been diagnosed with gall stones, gall bladder is midly thick. Apparently ive had them for awhile, dr was suprised I didnt know that i had them.

So have to have surgery and have been put on the waiting list of the public health system.

What other symptoms did you have if you have it??
I have heard of really bad headaches behind the right side of your head behind your eye, diareah(sp), pain of course, bloating but is there anything else.



My liver function came back as very very poor and nearly landed me in hospital. Apparently it should of been at 30% and it was at 90% or something along those lines. I was feeling like death warmed up, and have finally started feeling better. Not 100% yet.

Anyone want to share there story?

#2 Propaganda

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:23 PM

My liver function was so bad that I was put on the next level of priority after emergency. I was full of stones, some as large as golfballs.

The only symptoms I experienced were the gallbladder attacks. They were horrible. An intense pain that started off feeling like my bra band was suffocating me, and quickly turned into the worst pain I had ever felt. Worse than giving birth.

If you avoid fatty foods, you can hopefully avoid any more attacks. I also found that high sugar foods brought on an attack too, for me. I even tried diet coke, and that too brought on an attack. Best to probably eat as lean, low-fat and as natural as you can.

#3 raven74

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:29 PM

Public health?  I have been waiting for an appointment to see the doctor to schedule surgery (if they do it)  for almost a year.
I recommend rocking up to the ED every time you have an attack, it will be more likey that you'll have to have emergency surgery.
Horrid, isn't it?

#4 Propaganda

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:32 PM

QUOTE (raven74 @ 20/11/2012, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Public health?  I have been waiting for an appointment to see the doctor to schedule surgery (if they do it)  for almost a year.
I recommend rocking up to the ED every time you have an attack, it will be more likey that you'll have to have emergency surgery.
Horrid, isn't it?


I agree with this. Every attack I had, I went to emergency. Even if it doesn't bump you up the line, they can at least give you morphine which stopped the pain.

#5 *Lena*

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

Worse pain ever was my gall attacks I feel for you. I never really had any signs bar the actual attacks. I was in private and due to have them out. The week before I got a phone call to say my private health insurance didn't cover it. I was in tears and the day of the meant to be op I had another attack. I actually went months without an attack while on the public waiting list and lost 18kgs as I was eating no fat.

Until one day they started again I was having attacks daily, got so bad drinking only water set off an attack. My last attack was unbearable I couldn't even move. Went to hospital and was admitted. My liver function was bad I was yellow (I had a stone blocked in my duct) had it removed. I had to have a follow up op as when they removed my gall they had to put a stent in and I was told 95% or something like that remove themself but of course mine didn't.

I have been fine ever since (besides putting all the weight back on mad.gif sad.gif   sad.gif  but have lost 12kg again now). My advise is everytime you have an arrack go to hospital so you can be pushed up that waiting list. I didn't as it was an hour away (going to my home hospital did nothing) and the thought of driving in that much pain was unthinkable. But if I did I was told I would have had it out sooner.

I also found drinking apple cider vinegar stopped the attacks from going on hours and hours. It use to make me vomit but I would have done anything to stop the pain. I searched the net for remediies, can't think of some of the others sorry.

#6 mitty82

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:44 PM

have been told if i get the pain back severe especially with vomiting im to go to er asap. Cos it can be dangerous if i dont. So im guessing liver function depends on gall stones etc.

#7 JuniorGandR

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:47 PM

Hi mitty82, I had my gall bladder removed nearly 2 years ago, when DD was 5 months old. I was diagnosed after a midnight ambulance trip to ER when DD was about 8 weeks old, in extreme pain. After having lots of tests and speaking to a specialist, I was told it was most likely induced by hormonal changes in pregnancy (as my diet was fine,and I had no other risk factors, and no symptoms prior to pregnancy). In hindsight I had had a few mild attacks during pregnancy, which as a first timer I put down to either extreme heartburn or pain and damage from strong kicks. I even had an attack during labour - I was convinced DD was clawing her way out and up. The specialist said I would need my gall bladder removed before TTC again but that I could give it a few months as the painkillers would interrupt BF, and I'd need to be in hospital overnight. So we waited, but after another really bad attack, we scheduled surgery for when DD was 5 months old. Surgery was fine although the referred pain in my shoulder was unexpected and unpleasant :-(. Nearly 2 years later and I don't miss it at all - haven't had to alter my diet at all (I wasn't / am not a big fatty or rich food eater) and 37 weeks pregnant I haven't had the same bad levels of discomfort this pregnancy so happy with that. Good luck with everything.

#8 Bbtimes2

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:50 PM

I just had my gall bladder removed last Wednesday due to stones. It was the best decision EVER.
I am still recovering from surgery but feel so much better. No more all day nausea and vomiting. No more unbearable pain and headaches.
I hope you get it resolved very soon.

#9 emski72

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:55 PM

I had no other symptoms other than the attacks - which for me were not text book - the pain felt lower in my stomach. I had two severe attacks and with one ended up in ER.

I had my Gallbladder out just over a year ago and have since had another attack - even without the gallbladder being present!  unsure.gif  apparently you can still get 'bile sludge' that gets stuck in the bile duct and that feels exactly like a gallbladder attack - so you still run the risk of an attack after having it out if you don't eat well. It was my wedding weekend and I had eaten a lot of rich foods. Also watch codeine as that can set off bile duct spasm after the gallbladder is out too. I avoid it like the plague now.

#10 *Lena*

Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (mitty82 @ 20/11/2012, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
have been told if i get the pain back severe especially with vomiting im to go to er asap. Cos it can be dangerous if i dont. So im guessing liver function depends on gall stones etc.

All my attacks where in my back. I never had one where they said they should be. I went to hospital 2.5 weeks after getting home from having a c-section (with my first attack) they told me it was from my c-section and bc I was breast feeding they couldn't give me anything and sent me home. Went to my dr and said I think I had a gall attack (mum has had them) and got the scan. Thats how I found out. Didn't know it was dangerous in the back though.

#11 mitty82

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (*Lena* @ 20/11/2012, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All my attacks where in my back. I never had one where they said they should be. I went to hospital 2.5 weeks after getting home from having a c-section (with my first attack) they told me it was from my c-section and bc I was breast feeding they couldn't give me anything and sent me home. Went to my dr and said I think I had a gall attack (mum has had them) and got the scan. Thats how I found out. Didn't know it was dangerous in the back though.



Not dangerous in the back, but if i get the pain back to go. But according to my doctor with my liver function results being so bad she said if i get it with vomiting any severe pain and it is left it can be dangerous. Something along the lines of rupture, gangreen etc.
I get it up under my breasts around the left hand side of my tummy and around my back. She also said gallbladder is actually on the right hand side and can basically be rediated anywhere on your torso.

How long will I have to have off work? im casual and cant really afford to have heaps of time off either?

#12 o_for_oscar

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:04 PM

I had my gall bladder removed two years ago.  As with others, the initial symptoms of an attack was the pain in the right shoulder, pressure around the rib cage and the horrid tightening feeling.  During an attack, I didn't know whether to sit, stand, walk, stretch, curl up in a ball.  It was undiagnosed in the later weeks of my pregnancy and by the time my baby was born I was getting them frequently and more severely.  I went to ER four or five times (once by ambulance) and ended up having my gall bladder removed when my baby was four weeks old.  They put me in the maternity unit for the night after my op, so I could be with her still.  Apparantly pregnancy induced gall stones are quite common.  I ended up going private - not that I had private health - I just paid whatever to get it fixed.  They told me the waitlist for public was about a year and I couldn't wait that long.  I couldn't bare to keep rocking up to ER every time I had an attack.  It can be such a horrid thing.  Worse than child birth in my opinion.  But once the op is done, you will feel like a different person.

#13 Feral Grey Mare

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:07 PM

The pain: like having a spear pushed through from under my ribs and out through my back.

Fortunately this was pre-child when we could still afford PHI so had gall bladder removed within a week - one stone about the size of a macadamia nut. Fell pregnant soon after. No changes to diet were necessary and healed up faster than I had thought I would.


I had most of the risk factors: fair, fat, fertile,family history and 5 years off being forty.

#14 mitty82

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE (Old Grey Mare @ 20/11/2012, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The pain: like having a spear pushed through from under my ribs and out through my back.

Fortunately this was pre-child when we could still afford PHI so had gall bladder removed within a week - one stone about the size of a macadamia nut. Fell pregnant soon after. No changes to diet were necessary and healed up faster than I had thought I would.


I had most of the risk factors: fair, fat, fertile,family history and 5 years off being forty.


lol all f's.

Im fair, fat, contraceptive pill, lost 8kgs recently over 12 weeks, and femail lol

#15 BJBubbles

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:12 PM

I had a 2.5cm stone in my gall bladder, diagnosed after a year or more of random attacks.

My only real symptoms were the attacks.  And towards the end, REALLY bad constant indigestion, that would start after lunch and not go away until morning.

I was going through IVF at the time, and when on some of the drugs, I had more attacks, and/or worse indigestion.  I did a lot of research, and speaking to my doctors, there is a slight link between increased oestrogen levels and gall stones.  My GP said that there are "Five F's" that make you more susceptible - Female, Fair, Fat Fertile and Forty.  I'm only 3 of the 5 (fair and female - I had a BMI of 23 and was 27 years old).

That being said, my gastro surgeon said they really don't know why causes gall stones, which is why they actually remove the whole gall bladder - as if you have a stone/stones once, you will more than likely get them again.

I hope you can get the surgery soon, without too much pain in the mean time!

ETA - re recovery time - my surgeon said to take at least a week off work. Even with laproscopic surgery.  I was in hospital overnight and managed to avoid any shoulder tip pain from the gas.  I just had muscle discomofort really - just very sore to move, very bloated etc.  Needed nothing stronger than panadol when I got home.

Edited by BJBubbles, 20 November 2012 - 09:19 PM.


#16 tintin78

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

Buscopan can sometimes help with the pain if you take it at the very first niggle of an attack. If you miss it, it is useless.

My pain was like being kicked in the ribs by a horse (or what i assume it would feel like!) I would happily give birth 10x over than go through that pain again. I find now, 5 years post op that i can't tolerate dairy products, or fats and i have recently discovered i have a fatty liver.

I found a specialist attached to RPA and paid to see him. I think the appt. was $150 and he booked me in to have mine out. When i told him i did not have PHI (at the time) he said that is fine to do under Medicare and it made no difference to waiting times. The only difference was that his regiastrar would do the surgery as opposed to him. My appt was made for about 10 days later.

I got a call from his office the next day telling me he had a cancellation and i was being moved up to 2 days time. He ended up doing the surgery too original.gif

If you are in Sydney and would like his details, please feel free to PM me.

#17 FeralDancesHere

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

QUOTE (Old Grey Mare @ 20/11/2012, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had most of the risk factors: fair, fat, fertile,family history and 5 years off being forty.


My doctor gave me slightly different risk factors and called the, the 5 f's.

Fat
Fair
Fertile
Forty and
Flatulent (nice blush.gif )

My symptoms were shoulder pain, and feeling a major build up in my chest/stomach like I needed to burp out litres of gas.

I haven't had my gallbladder out, and have mostly managed with diet. I did have a date for surgery and from memory my wait was about 2 months after seeing the surgeon (regional public hospital).

Did your doctor suggest buscopan? It can help prevent the attack and ease it as well.

I thought I had another attack this year, but it ended up being pneumonia and pleurisy. Same sort of shoulder pain.





#18 mitty82

Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:29 PM

no, i was given panadeine forte, but the pain is similar if not worse than labour so panadeine forte wont touch the side of it when i do get it.
He first suggested it was indegestion!! I was gobsmacked.
Im in cqld. i have to go to the dr in a few weeks and will ask her how long the wait will be approx and what level of need im at. I had been getting shoulder pain?? Makes you wonder.
A week off isnt too bad, although i work in child care so lots of lifting children, lifting cleaning supplies. So not sure if that would make a difference. Thank you all for your insight. Have had a sh*t month really. I have to get two wisdom teeth out in two weeks, also need ot have a root canal and now my gall bladder. THat would be everything comes in 3s

#19 sarkazm76

Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:46 PM

I had mine out while 17 weeks pregnant with my 1st.  Had an attack the day after having an amnio and thought I was having a heart attack or getting some awful infection!!!  Called the hospital where I had the amnio and they said to come in - not our closest hospital, long drive that I had to basically meditate through to deal with the pain.  Spent the whole drive flashing from hot to cold - DH had to keep turning the AC on and off, lol.  Got there, up to maternity, what are you doing here etc etc.  Finally someone said they thought it seemed like my GB and gave me some morphine - needed 2 or maybe it was 3 shots to take the edge off and could still feel it.  Gave me nausea tablets - taking them made me vomit, lol.  Went for US (DH tells me I was dropping farts very bad at this point - that poor sonographer!!!  He said I had like 12 stones.
They kept me for a couple of days to see how I'd go - the problem being that once you get to 24 weeks the baby is too big for them to be able to do the surgery.  On day 3 pains were coming back and I had surgery that day and had it removed.
I had ALL the risk factors - age, sex, family history, rapid weight loss (40kg in 6 months prior so we could TTC), pregnant.  Everything has been OK since I had it out - sometimes don't deal well with going all out and eating something incredibly fatty out of the blue... but mostly OK.




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